For Sale 2 different questions

[peter]

Hi

1. When a domain says it will expire in august 2004 does that mean 2003? (it says registrar lock on domains that say june 2004 when it could be june 2003)

2. When it comes to .co.uk how long from detagged to free?

 

[peter]

Originally posted by icehole
Hi

1. When a domain says it will expire in august 2004 does that mean 2003? (it says registrar lock on domains that say june 2004 when it could be june 2003)

what I mean with nr 1 is that all of the .us names which were regged 23/24 april 2002 (start of .us I think) say 2004 in whois. does that actually mean it will expire in 2003 (has happened with other domains) or that they had to reg them 2 years in the beginning of .us ?

 

[TheBansche]

My memory is vague on this, but I THINK the original registration timeframe for dot-us was 2 years. At least I'm pretty sure it was at NSI. My memory is fuzzy on this as I was in the process of quitting NSI when dot-us was rolling out so I wasn't paying close attention. If memory serves me, Pre-Registrations were DEFINITELY two years, and I'm not sure about general registrations because I was gone by then.

Also Registrar-Lock just means nobody can order the Registry to make changes to the whois information or DNS without special permission fro the Registrar of record. The way it works with dot-us (as I recall) is you need a special code to unlock the domain so it can be modified at the registry or transferred. Reg-Lock is quite different from Reg-Hold, which is I think what you're thinking of.

Anybody PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong. I don't want to be the source of bad information here.

 

[Duke]

All initial .US registrations were for 2 years. It was reduced to 1-year until last fall - September as I recall.

 

[Mr Webname]

A comment from Nominet re detagged status:-

"Please note that once a domain name is detagged it does not mean that the domain name is to be cancelled. The detagged facility is a service open to Tag holders of Nominet UK to enable them to disassociate themselves from a particular domain name held on their Tag.

When a domain name becomes detagged it is then Nominet UK's responsibility to contact the registrant and give them the opportunity to either renew or cancel the domain name. Unfortunately, we have in the region of 3/4 of a million domain names that are detagged and unfortunately it can take up to a period of 9 months before we are at the stage of investigating the domain name status.

Once we have investigated the case a letter will be sent out to the registrant. If you check the WHOIS and when you notice that the domain name is suspended, it will be in this status for 6 to 8 weeks then released back into the public domain so that anyone can register it."

Hope that helps answer the 2nd question.

 

[mole]

Originally posted by TheBansche
Also Registrar-Lock just means nobody can order the Registry to make changes to the whois information or DNS without special permission fro the Registrar of record. The way it works with dot-us (as I recall) is you need a special code to unlock the domain so it can be modified at the registry or transferred.

Yup, .INFO, .BIZ and .US work differently from Verisign's .COM and .NET. The transfer for the former can only be triggered if you have access to the 'transfer authorization code' which is set by the current registrar.

God help you if you a person breaks into your account at eNom since the transfer authorization codes can be viewed at the bottom of each domain detail. That facilitates convenience, but the only thing standing between you and the thief is your username and account password.

I would gladly pay big bucks for eNom to introduce another security layer to hide the authorization code with another password protect.

Of course, not all registrars let you see your authorization codes immediately with your domain details. Netsol has a very tight system that makes getting those codes a nightmare. I guess Netsol's Archilles Heel is probably it's disgrunted employees, and there is no way you can really protect yourself against insider jobs, except if you (1) seek public notary of the domains you own through lawyers that will verify a title deed and (2) ensure you have a physical record of all the transactions you have done with your registrar. As a rule, personal screencaptures of your account should be mandatory. This should all be forwarded to your lawyers.

Domain thieves and hackers prey on identifying the weaknesses in your system - the primary one being the admin email address. So free emails are a total no-no. You must own that domain.

If you are serious, make sure you register the domain of that email address to its max i.e. 2013 is the limit right now.

But NEVER put the the admin email of that domain using the email of that domain. Register another domain specifically for that purpose, and do the loop above. To be really serious, repeat the loop with yet another email address for the former.

One of the best defenses is, of course, to make that domain well known - so development is key and you have many witnesses. Anyone who tries to steal Microsoft.com, is probably a psychotic suicide personality.