$30,000 annual Revenue Property.co.za / Realestate.co.za package

[gdurni]

Property.co.za
Realestate.co.za


Looking to sell as a package.

Combined earns approx. $30,000 USD annually per lease agreement with tenant Entegral Technologies : http://www.entegral.net

Asking $300,000 USD = 10 times earnings

Leases can be disclosed to serious buyers. Leases do not include option to buy domains at all. Leases are very beneficial to domain owner.

I am open to all serious offers. $30k / annual passive income while holding premium appreciating domains.

Property.co.za registered since 1996
Realestate.co.za registered since 1996

Please email me - [email protected]

 

[MikeinFlorida]

Hi: You have a very nice package of names, but I was just wondering why you think anything is worth 10 times net income these days? I don't mean to be rude or anything. I wonder if you value the names on future appreciation more than income or just what your logic is? Please enlighten me and thanks!

 

[gdurni]

Hello,

I do not think you are being rude at all.

Considering the market that the domains are in there is tremendous future appreciation that I am seeing at a first hand basis. Aside from that I myself would purchase premium generic cctlds for 10 years net income. It is the equivalent of a 10CAP or 10 % annual return on purchase price. In the world of real estate, property at a 10 percent ROI is considered cheap depending on what is being sold. Better locations or income streams would be bought at much more expensive multiples.

This does not mean I would buy all domains at 10 years net income but if you have domains that are parked or leased that are generic and English language I would generally pay more than 10 times earnings easily. If the terms themselves are trendy and not long term, I would not. Even domains like dvds or mp3s are considered to me to be "trendy" as opposed to "cars" or "property", "insurance" etc.

The question then may be why do you want to sell if you are willing to buy at these multiples? The answer is simple. I am looking to raise money to reinvest in portfolios and other domains within the same market that I already have lined up.

If you have generic english cctlds with no restrictions in term of local presence I would be more than willing to take a look at what you have at 10 years net income multiple.

Regards,

Gavin

 

[bwhhisc]

I think most read estate investors are looking at a minimum 12CAP on commercial real estate in today's market.
In the current US market most banks are very hesitant about commercial real estate...many feel it has not nearly bottomed.
It is hard to get a loan on commercial real estate with less than 30% down and a solid tenant (or owner occupied situtation) in place.

Regarding your lease agreement with Entregal, how many more years does it run, and when does it expire?

 

[gdurni]

That depends on what real estate investment you are looking for. If you are looking for something with upside that is usually in the 12CAP area. If you look at the main REITS, even newly formed such as CBRE's they are buying at higher multiples, more secured cash flows and better locations but less upside. This is a good investment in comparison for many institutional investors or hedge fund money considering how low tbills are along with interest rates. You are correct regarding the banks and absolutely need a tenant in place in this environment. For the most part yes if you are an individual or small company you are looking at 30% down+. Real estate parallels are never exact to domains but I use them in terms of multiples. I do this because domain names are a more passive investment then real estate even when talking in terms of NNN or ground leased properties guaranteed by fortune 500 companies.

Regarding property.co.za/realestate.co.za if you are seriously interested please email me at [email protected] and I will relay lease details to you. However, I am only looking for serious inquiries.

I have many leased domains and during a struggling economy leases are ways for companies to make money off the internet and save money on there adwords budgets as they do not have the bulk cash in many instances to buy the domains. In this case there is no option to buy for the tenant but many require an option to buy, or even rent to own.

 

[nuco]

lol

everyone sells for 10 times monthly revenue. you made it yearly.

If you have any idea on selling for 10 times monthly, ping me

 

[gdurni]

If everyone is selling premium generic cctld or gtld names for 10 months monthly revenue I would love to know where? I will buy them right now? If you have premium generics that you want to sell I will even buy them at 20 months revenue - let me know

I meant years not months. I do not know of any domainers selling generic names for 10 months revenue. Again, maybe I am out of touch and if so please send me the names as I will buy immediately. I have been working in terms of 10% ROI / annually or worse on premiums which is a 10 year multiple.

 

[dmyre]

I agree. 10-12 months may be acceptable for TM's.
Generics on the other hand, command at least 8-10 YEARS revenue.

 

[dnm]

I agree - Good generic should command AT LEAST 10 years rev. and in this case its important to know how many more years does your lease agreement with Entregal has left.
The reason I say AT LEAST is that such good names have great value even without any rev at all.
and like Gavin said - If you have generic english cctlds with no restrictions in term of local presence that you are selling for 10 MONTH REV I would be more than happy to take a look.

 

[gdurni]

Domains not for sale for the time being. Will keep interested parties updated.