adsense tracker

[NZPoint]

I recently have installed an adsense click tracker on few of domains to test it out and see if i can improve.. now according to click tracker and adsense, they are two different readings.. I have more clicks with click tracker but it showing less with adsense stats!!!

Can someone explain this?

by the way, I have tested this for few days now and every day is the same,, by that i mean showing more click from the tracker than adsense stats itself.

 

[JRBHosting]

User clicks on an ad, realizes that they did so, and closes the window before the page can load. The click tracker registers it, but Google does not.

By the way...isn't that against Google's TOS?

 

[typist]

there is no way an adsense click tracker is able to track actual clicks, unless it has access to google data.

most click trackers estimate clicks by counting as a click every time the window closes while the mouse is positioned over an ad. this is not a perfect method.

if you use adsense link bars, that's another major source of errors: click trackers can only try to estimate clicks on the link bar, while adsense counts clicks on ads (on a different page, which your click tracker doesn't know about).

 

[Seraphim]

AdSense is a zero transparency operation, in which Google decides how many coins to place in your sack at the end of the day. Don't run click trackers, don't ask questions, just cross your fingers that they pay you at the end of each month, and be on your merry way.

Also keep in mind that when you place adsense ads on your website, Google's intellectual property rights protection policy kicks in, and your rights at that point equate to zero. Repeat the mantra after me, "God bless multi billion dollar cooperations, and people with more money then they can spend in a life time".

 

[typist]

when you place adsense ads on your website, Google's intellectual property rights protection policy kicks in, and your rights at that point equate to zero.

Seraphim, I'd appreciate if you could elaborate on that. What evil can I expect this policy to bring upon me?

 

[NZPoint]

User clicks on an ad, realizes that they did so, and closes the window before the page can load. The click tracker registers it, but Google does not.

By the way...isn't that against Google's TOS?

from little I know this is not against google TOS. the tracker i used is called adlogger

there is no way an adsense click tracker is able to track actual clicks, unless it has access to google data.

most click trackers estimate clicks by counting as a click every time the window closes while the mouse is positioned over an ad. this is not a perfect method

not sure about this!! adlogger even record which typeof ad has been clicked on and even the colour of ad!!

AdSense is a zero transparency operation, in which Google decides how many coins to place in your sack at the end of the day. Don't run click trackers, don't ask questions, just cross your fingers that they pay you at the end of each month, and be on your merry way

your right, less you know, at least you get to sleep better.. I might just take the tracker off too, just thought to give it a try to improve on ad colour and location.

Thank you all

 

[Seraphim]

Google can ban you from the program and confiscate your earnings without providing one shred of proof that an infraction occurred. They pay you what they want to, and refuse to disclose what percentage of payout actually goes to the publisher, and what if any other rules apply to this payout structure. When you sign their terms of service agreement, you agree that Google will not disclose the reason you were banned from the program, and what the payout structure is. They claim their iron fist policies protect the integrity of the intellectual property rights of their ppc network. Each publisher is more or less asked to "trust Google", because after all, their company slogan is "Don’t be evil", if that doesn't merit trust, then I don't know what else will.

So... if you manage to rack up $10,000 in monthly earnings, and $3500 worth of clicks are questionable enough to get you banned from the program entirely, all earnings are forfeited regardless. What happens to the other $6500 is a complete mystery to all in the ppc industry. AdSense should be called DoorMat, because there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference.

I'm actually getting tired of the PPC industry as a whole, it's inconsistencies, it's nontransparency issues, etc. My opinion is the industry is riddled with fraud right up to the top, differing only at who is doing it more. I'm finding old school methods of pay as you advertise on my website, much more effective and secure.

 

[RTM.net]

Great commentary by Seraphim... as for the non-transparency, is that not part of this whole domaining / Web monetization business in general ?

Try explaining why (in simple, tangible terms) why Google paid $2B for youtube and how they plan on getting their ROI ?

You thought the airline business had mysteries with regards to ticketing, seat prices... nothing compared to SEO/SEM/PPC/CPA .....

Sigh...

If G "does no evil" well... try not to "do evil" yourself (in your AdSense integration techniques) ... and ALWAYS have plan B ready (or in place)...

Plan B = Commission Junction, Linksynergy, Yahoo, AdCenter, etc etc..

Rob

 

[typist]

I see your point.

Kinda scary for me... I've recently been moving away from passive parking, to own hosted sites with adsense.

While revenue had been increasing, so has my workload. More importantly Google account management is non-existing: most parking providers do a far better job communicating individually with publishers.

That's what really irks me - I have no relationship with google, and I'm afraid if some random application of a policy would hit me, there is really no one to talk to, only a generic email address.

Bottom line: so far I'm afraid my revenue stream from parked sites is safer than making money from adsense.

 

[GT Web]

A couple points here:

1) Yup, Google can ban you for no obvious reason and withhold your money. Happened to me 18 months ago. Life's not fair...the internet certainly ain't fair...we have to deal with that.

2) Adlogger is allowed by Adsense, in fact, I have heard of people having their account re-instated after they were banned because they were able to prove through adlogger that they did not commit click fraud (by showing who/where the banned clicks were coming from).

 

[NZPoint]

This is just an update on adlogger.

very happy so far with it and you can certanly improve on what sort of ad size and colour people click. it also tells you the location of where it has been clicked, and where they gone to. I sure reccomend this for any webmaster.

also wanted to make this clear I am in no way affiliated with adlogger, infact they are free.