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Bone-Marrow Transplant may Heal Aids

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Here' the story:

The patient, an American citizen living in Germany, was suffering from advanced leukemia and AIDS two years ago when Huetter decided to treat the cancer with a bone marrow transplant at Berlin's Charité hospital. As a side experiment, he inserted the bone marrow of a donor naturally resistant to HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. (Researchers have long known that about 1% of Europeans carry a genetic mutation that makes their cells resistant to HIV infection.) Bone marrow produces the cells that HIV attacks. So, the thinking went, inserting marrow that produces HIV resistant cells might endow the patient with a means to repel the infection. Twenty months after the transplant, Huetter says, the man shows no signs of carrying the virus.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1858843,00.html
http://news.google.co.il/news?ned=us&ncl=1268598850&hl=en&topic=m
 

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If this is real it is groundbreaking and huge!
 

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It may be. If it is can they mass produce the cells to cure millions that are infected?
 
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That's incredible!

Its definitely real the question is can they mass produce the cells to cure millions that are infected?

Not going to happen and when someone is going to receive marrow, all of their marrow is radiated (sp / correct term?)so they have none (living in a plastic bubble for months) while the marrow grows throughout their body.

They cannot make the cells / marrow now (or else many bone diseases would be a thing of yesterday). BUT -- if they can see what protein makes them resistant to HIV / AIDS then they can make an easier way to cure it.

Plus, donating bone marrow is a bit of procedure (which my wife has done a few times in the past - as a surgical tech) so it's not like giving blood where you'll have people lining out the door.

This reminds me, I wasn't able to give blood today (was in the field all day).
 
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What's interesting is the way this was found, sort of like penicillin.
 

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I've heard of that before, but never openly and report to their peers, so it may be a cure but so far nothing seemed to have worked. I do think that changing genes, will be able to cure it at some point though.
 

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Plus, donating bone marrow is a bit of procedure (which my wife has done a few times in the past - as a surgical tech) so it's not like giving blood where you'll have people lining out the door.
Yes, from what I understand, you have to stay in the hospital for a few hours, undergo tests, etc, but if this will save peoples lives, I'm sure there will be plenty of donors. There is already a bone marrow bank, with lists of people who've done testing for potential donors.
 

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One problem is drug makers are making a killing, by not curing it but treating it for years. They got every reason not to cure it, but to get people to live long lives using their high cost drugs.
 

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One problem is drug makers are making a killing, by not curing it but treating it for years. They got every reason not to cure it, but to get people to live long lives using their high cost drugs.

I have always thought there was this large conspiracy like that! In all seriousness though why do they not open source the disease curing business, its all code weather its HTML or DNA. You get much a much better product when everyone collaborates.:eek:k:
 

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One problem is drug makers are making a killing, by not curing it but treating it for years. They got every reason not to cure it, but to get people to live long lives using their high cost drugs.
and hospitals and insurance companies have every reason not to cure, and let people die. Costs are too expensive.

Next time your elderly grandparent or parent is in the hospital. Keep your eyes open!
 

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What I've been hearing, is that doctors are over loading with drugs old people that are dieing. They get much sicker from all the drugs, they are really strong on a old persons system. That never took such strong drugs before, they get real bad in a short time and doctors give up on them.

Giving such hard drugs at high levels, do more harm then good as can be seen by people around them. It's almost like doctors made the choice, to kill them with heavy duty drugs, as they are way worst then their org sickness. In big city's like philly, doctors seem like they can't be bothered with them.
 

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A very sick trick they use to induce a heart attack in a sick patient is to keep turning the person every few hours, it puts a great strain on the heart and other organs.

I doubt the big companies would ever want to cure anything such as HIV or Cancer, like KaneCo said it should be open source.

Its great news though because its not a unknown that is claiming to have done it, its been done in a big country with a really good health care system.
 

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Check out how the FDA are working to keep drug makers, in full charge of all treatments and anything that may take any money from them, see link for whole story..........

(NaturalNews) NaturalNews has learned the U.S. Food and Drug Administration is running a criminal extortion racket designed to drain cash from health supplement companies and shift it into the pockets of top FDA contractors. This organized crime operation has been running for years, and it has operated with impunity because each company targeted by the scam feels isolated and alone, unable to face the astronomical legal bills of going to court and battling the FDA. So one by one, they agree to "settle" with the FDA for crimes they never committed. Part of the settlement, of course, involves the payment of FDA employees or contractors who pocket the money extorted from health companies.

NaturalNews has interviewed executives from three different companies who have been targeted for extortion by U.S. Food and Drug Administration employees. At their request, the names of those companies are being kept confidential until legal action being taken against them is resolved. Interviews have been recorded, with permission, with two of those companies and will be released to the public at a later date. Documents proving this FDA extortion racket are included here.

How the FDA extorts money from nutritional supplement companies
The FDA extortion racket works like this: FDA employees use keyword-scanning software to scan the web pages of natural health product and supplement companies, searching for terms like cancer, cures, treatment, remedies and other "forbidden" words. FDA employees then review the discovered pages to determine if they contain any words that might inform consumers of the health benefits of the nutritional products. FDA employees also look for links that might point web users to scientific articles from peer-reviewed medical journals that further explain the health benefits of specific foods, supplements or nutrients.

When offending words or links are found by the FDA, their extortion team goes into full swing. First, they contact the company and warn them to remove all information and links from their websites. This is the most important step from the FDA's standpoint, because by doing this, they can keep the health-conscious public in a state of nutritional ignorance about the scientifically-supported healing properties of natural supplements. Cherry products, for example, cannot link to scientific articles explaining the simple biological fact that cherries ease inflammation in human beings. Such links are considered "drug claims" by the FDA.

NaturalNews has even learned that companies are now being targeted for simply posting customer testimonials, even when those testimonials make absolutely no health claims. FDA and FTC agents are now threatening the owners of such companies with imprisonment if they do not immediately remove all customer testimonials from their websites and marketing materials.

If the company being targeted for extortion refuses to fully comply with the FDA's requests to remove all educational information from their website, the FDA then escalates the extortion tactics by threatening the company principals with arrest and seizure unless they agree to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to top FDA contractors and sign a "consent decree" where the company "admits" to committing various crimes (see below). This consent decree is a blatant violation of the Constitutional rights of U.S. citizens, of course, and it violates numerous sections of the Bill of Rights (Amendments #1 and #5, at the very least).

The FDA employees or contractors receiving the extorted money, it is claimed, are being paid to "review web pages" to make sure they don't contain anything that might inform consumers about the scientifically-validated benefits of the health products being sold. FDA extortion agreements specify that FDA employees should be paid the rate of $100 per hour, with no limit on the number of hours they may bill the company for. The extortion agreement also requires companies to pay for all the following:

• $100 per hour for the travel time of FDA employees.
• Hotel rooms for FDA employees.
• Storage fees for all products seized by the FDA.

The same agreement also requires the company to comply with FDA demands by never placing any links or "illegal" information on its website, where "illegal" means anything that offers an accurate description of the health benefits offered by natural health products.

The Consent Decree
Part of the FDA's strategy for oppression and control is to force targeted companies to sign a "consent decree" where they admit to crimes they never committed. NaturalNews obtained a copy of a public court document the FruitFast company was forced to sign due to FDA threats and extortion tactics.

You can view this document yourself at: http://www.NaturalNews.com/investigatio...

This document requires the FruitFast company to admit to crimes it did not commit; namely:

"Violating the Act, by introducing or delivering for introduction, or causing to be introduced or delivered for introduction, into interstate commerce articles of drug that are misbranded within the meaning of 21 U.S.C. SS 352(f)(1)."

What "drugs" did the FruitFast company introduce that were "misbranded?" Cherries, it turns out. Cherry juice concentrate was being sold with the accurate statement that it helped eliminate gout (which it does). This, according to the FDA, was enough to magically transform cherry juice into an "unapproved drug" and cause it to be "misbranded."

It also requires targeted companies to contractually agree that they have:

"...removed all claims from Defendants' product labels, labeling, promotional materials, websites owned or controlled by Defendants, and in any other media that cause that product to be a drug and/or contain unapproved or unauthorized health claims within the meaning of the Act; and

(ii) removed, from their product labels, labeling, promotional materials, and websites owned or controlled by Defendants, references to or endorsements of any other website that conveys information about Defendants' products that cause those products to be a drug and/or contain unapproved or unauthorized health claims within the meaning of the Act."

This means, of course, that these companies can no longer even LINK to other websites, including websites of scientific journals that discuss the proven health benefits of such natural products (foods, herbs, etc.)


http://www.naturalnews.com/024567.html
 

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I have always thought there was this large conspiracy like that! In all seriousness though why do they not open source the disease curing business, its all code weather its HTML or DNA. You get much a much better product when everyone collaborates.:eek:k:

Most Dems and Libs have that conspiracy mentality.... I believe it's a genetic problem. :lol:

Nice site John, I'd put my money on Newt for 2012 :yes:
 

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Conservative thought use to hate gov't and never trusted them, and also felt they never got nothing back for the taxes ever.

In other words they used to be more Liberal, before they become fear pushers and the very upset white people they become today. Many are hate filled now, and feel everyone that don't think and feel like they do are bad people. They have become dumb and are some brain washed, they have started to believe their own lies.

It's pretty sad indeed, their deeds are worst then the deeds. Of the very people they dislike so much, and many even hate everyone not like they are. What good are they with out any common sense, they have become worst then useless even.

Rush is now claiming this is obama's market crash, a real nut case now you can crash markets by your very own thoughts. This makret crash set fully on all republicans, they looked the other way for their money donations. They can't even admit they was wrong, and that they need to change, they only blame everything on dems and hate Liberals.
 

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Rush is now claiming this is obama's market crash,
He claims it's the Democrats fault, not Obama's.
 

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Well he did not say the dems recession, he clearly said the obama recession read the transcript below is what he said 110% proof what a nut case rush really is........

(BEGIN TRANSCRIPT)

The Obama recession is in full swing, ladies and gentlemen. Stocks are dying, which is a precursor of things to come. This is an Obama recession. Might turn into a depression. He hasn't done anything yet but his ideas are killing the economy. His ideas are killing Wall Street. They need some certainty, and now everybody in the Drive-By, "We don't know who Obama is." We got a story from Jennifer Loven, the Associated Press today: we don't know who Obama is. All of a sudden now on Charlie Rose, they're starting to talk about his ties to Saul Alinsky. I'm not joking at all. It's all coming up on the program. We've also got a Reuters story, here's the headline: "Will Democrats Tinker With Mutual Funds, 401k Plans?" So now they do the story after the election. And they get it right and they tell you what the Democrats plan to do with your 401(k) is, confirming what I told you, a bunch of people did, prior to the election.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110608/content/01125107.guest.html
 
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