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ObtainADomain

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Just Curious,

Can subdomains be used with country code tlds just like generic tlds?

For example, if you had: www.boy.cc could you make a domain: http://www.fat.boy.cc or would it be: http://fat.boy.cc?

How much extra do hosting companies usually charge if you want to create a lot of subdomains?

Thanks
 
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Well www.boy.cc is a subdomain of boy.cc, which is the "actual" domain you have leased.

So fat.boy.cc is fine, and is skinny.boy.cc

IIRC the only TLD or any sort (that's available to us plebs) that restricts their DNS is .name, a TLD which is pretty screwed up anyway, if you ask me.
 

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Most domain companys only allow you a certain amount of subdomains in your account, I've heard that 10 is a limit that most set, other places it might be a few more.

Registrydomains.com allows you upto 100 subdomains, aswell as 100 email forwards. That is the max amount that anyone will give you.

And as far as i know, you cannot pruchase more subdomain spaces from your Domain name Provider.
 

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Thanks for this info, it is a great help.

I was looking into a domain at the ".io" counrty code tld but they have a big disclaimer that they don't support any mail being sent directly to your ".io" address, instead you have to submit an alternate email that they will forward your email to.

This made me wonder if they would also not support subdomains but from the looks of your answers, it probably depends on what the nic at each tld is willing to support.
 

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Originally posted by ObtainADomain
Thanks for this info, it is a great help.

I was looking into a domain at the ".io" counrty code tld but they have a big disclaimer that they don't support any mail being sent directly to your ".io" address, instead you have to submit an alternate email that they will forward your email to.

This made me wonder if they would also not support subdomains but from the looks of your answers, it probably depends on what the nic at each tld is willing to support.

What you just said means that they offer email forwarding for free, but not a mailbox, like many registrars.

When you get a host you can set all that up.
 

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>>mysk:

Most domain companys only allow you a certain amount of subdomains in your account, I've heard that 10 is a limit that most set, other places it might be a few more.

Registrydomains.com allows you upto 100 subdomains, aswell as 100 email forwards. That is the max amount that anyone will give you.


Where do you get this impression? I don't think it's true at all!? :confused:
 

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Mysk, you can put a million subdomains on a domain, if your nameservers can handle it.

Yes, .io IS AN EXCEPTION - when I was writing my previous reply, a little voice inside me was saying "there's a funny ccTLD out there somewhere" but I couldn't remember which one it was.

.io is it.

IIRC, they'll sell a subdomain to multiple entities.

So they'll sell ford.io to both the car manufacturer, the modelling agency, and anyone else, and if someone types in ford.io, it goes to their system, and they present a directory of appropriate sites.

And THAT'S why thery don't handle email well - it would be going to all the wrong people half the time.

Try http://lloyds.io/ for an example.

AN attempt to turn DNS into a directory service - but it breaks for anything other than HTTP.
 

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If you have control of a domain (in any TLD) -- in other words, you can specify the DNS servers for it (which excludes cases like .io where they don't give you such control, keeping it at the registry) -- you can create as many subdomains as you want and point them wherever you want; the registry and registrar have no control of that.

In some cases, the registration agreements might attempt to restrict what you can do with subdomains; for instance, the .museum registration agreement says you can't use subdomains for any non-museum-related purpose, and the .tv agreement says you can't provide subdomain registrations to other parties besides yourself. However, any such restrictions would have to be enforced by them threatening to revoke your domain for violating them; they have no way to automatically prevent such use. It's anyone's guess whether such restrictions would prove to be legally enforceable if a registry tried it.

.name is no different from any other domain in this regard; if you own joe.blow.name, you can create subdomains like iam.joe.blow.name, youare.joe.blow.name, etc. The only difference is that the level you control is third-level rather than second-level; you can't create names like jane.blow.name because you don't control blow.name, even if you use their email forwarding to get [email protected].

The same is true of co.uk, com.au, art.museum, or any other domain where you can only register at the third level beneath a registry-controlled second level.

Of course, the server hosting your domain needs to be able to handle the subdomains; if it's a server you own yourself, you can configure them at no cost (get the O'Reilly book "DNS and BIND" to find out how), but if it's at a hosting provider you're subject to their policies, which might impose costs or limits. My own host, Dreamhost, allows 5 fully hosted subdomains per main domain at no extra charge, and an unlimited number of mirrored or redirected ones.
 

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Originally posted by Drewbert
Yes, .io IS AN EXCEPTION - IIRC, they'll sell a subdomain to multiple entities.

And THAT'S why thery don't handle email well - it would be going to all the wrong people half the time.

Drewbert,

Impressive that you knew that. You just saved me about $200 for serveral ".io" names so I owe you a "thank you."

At www.io.io, it was weird because everything is available and it's deceptive unless you understand how it works.

Plus this leads me to the answer I was looking for in the first place (tell me if I'm wrong):
You can NOT use subdomains with an ".io" tld.

P.S.: Dan, I love your website where you explain domain names, very helpful: http://domains.dan.info/
 

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oh well i was wrong.. lol

I guess in this case it was a good thing to be wrong because i learned something outa this aswell. But what i said was based on what domain companys i've dealed with.. No one has ever said i got a million subdomain spaces. 100 is the most i've eva seen. But i guess compared to a different domain company that would pretty much suck. But i pay the Lowest price available when it comes to domains. Maybe thats why.

Oh well.

Thanks for the Corrections :dead:

At least someone in here knows what there talkn about.
 

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Please to be of assistance - .io domains aren't really domains in the sense of ownership and "do what ever you want". All you're buying is a space in their web-based directory system.

It's been like that for many years now, and never took off.

Now, about .name - I'm sure there's some sort of restriction there, may in the mail area?
 

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Second-level mail addresses in .name ([email protected]) are done through the registry and you don't actually own their underlying domain, but you can set up any email addresses you wish under a third-level .name domain ([email protected]). At that level it works just like any other domain.
 

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Originally posted by Drewbert
Mysk, you can put a million subdomains on a domain, if your nameservers can handle it.

Yes, .io IS AN EXCEPTION - when I was writing my previous reply, a little voice inside me was saying "there's a funny ccTLD out there somewhere" but I couldn't remember which one it was.

.io is it.

IIRC, they'll sell a subdomain to multiple entities.

So they'll sell ford.io to both the car manufacturer, the modelling agency, and anyone else, and if someone types in ford.io, it goes to their system, and they present a directory of appropriate sites.

And THAT'S why thery don't handle email well - it would be going to all the wrong people half the time.

Try http://lloyds.io/ for an example.

AN attempt to turn DNS into a directory service - but it breaks for anything other than HTTP.

I will certainly passed this TLD.
 
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