"Can you blow my whistle baby?"

[Theo]

But make sure you register your .com.

 

[amplify]

Already made a comment on this in another thread, but god damn I wish I had my top secret clearance still (which he has lost and will never get again)... It costs $100,000 to obtain once you lose it (generally a government contractor or the government will do it if you land a GS job that requires it).

 

[Theo]

I hear you. Plus, this guy had it all going for him (hot gf!) high paying job etc. But I understand how a person's convictions can lead to different decisions. Still, we might never know the full story.

 

[amplify]

No, cause the NSA will keep it secret and water board him everyday if he speaks out.

 

[katherine]

Q: How come millions of Americans hold a top secret security clearance ?
A: We know the answer but we would have to kill you first.

 

[amplify]

Actually, it's way below millions for top secret and for secret clearance I'd say it's just a tad more. Not everyone that has been/is in the military gets a security clearance. It depends on their job and if it's critical to have.

 

[angel69]

I wonder why it's so expensive to get it back if you lose it, and sure, there should be a penalty of some type if you lost it and it's your fault, but these amounts are just crazy. One would think that if you lose it for negligence or you were simply bad at your job then you should never qualify for it again, not even for a cool $1M. But if you lost it cuz you went to the private sector or some other legitimate reason, then why penalize you w/that awful penalty ?

It discourages highly qualified ppl from going back to them which would save them money cuz they won't need that much training the 2nd time around, at least that's my reasoning. If you qualify for a job with them you should get the appropriate level of clearance, period (I assume it's given for free the 1st time no matter what your level is) The penalties don't make sense for people who didn't do anything wrong and need that clearance to go back to gvt jobs, but I'm just one more civilian I guess lol......only domain millionaires could afford such costs ! lmao

:eyebrows:

 

[amplify]

In the military if a clearance is obtained and you wish to leave or retire, you only have 2 years to find a job that requires a clearance (if you already have one, you have preference over those without) or you lose it.

I presume it costs so much because it's a 10+ page application wanting to know everything about you (friends, school, work, marriages, divorces, family members, addresses lived, etc.). It's one of the most in-depth background check ever as they want to figure out cultures, societies, people, etc. that you have been/are associated with. They follow up on every aspect of information on the application.

I once heard a story where the investigators called a friend of an applicant and the friend stated that they smoked weed years ago. Guess what? Ultimate buddy f*** as not obtaining the clearance also means not getting the desired $200,000/yr job.

I was unaware of the 2 year carry over rule and applied for a $140k job... to find out I no longer had clearance (and the contractor wouldn't sponsor it... because it is a $100,000 gamble that in those years you didn't even get a parking ticket in Bumfaq nowhere... yes, it's that in-depth).

 

[Theo]

The bottom line is, the requirements for such a job are very specific: blindly obey the rules of the game. It takes a particular kind of committed individual, regardless of the moral/ethic dilemmas regular people face.

Why apply for such a position if you are not in control of your personal beliefs? <-- Rhetorical question.

 

[angel69]

:eyebrows: LOL

Q: How come millions of Americans hold a top secret security clearance ?
A: We know the answer but we would have to kill you first.

Also, can I deviate just a sec ? (Theo, this is the DG thread, I'm sure it's cool w/ya since we're in the Can you blow my whistle baby? thread lol)

Katherine, I'm cool that you're against porn (your sig), tho 99% of guys I know would kill to keep it (and 100% free) but.... do you extend your views to domaining ? ie, if presented w/a good adult name you could trade for good $, would you stay away from it ? just curious since you're one of the true pros on dnf......

ps - and speaking of DV8ing.....would you believe that I once went in a group (hetero! lol) to a dance club named DV8 ? (deviate, except that it was pretty clean and a bit formal, and totally str8, funny name they picked tho....) and now as a domainer wannabe I find it odd DV8.com seems to be used by a serious co.... it makes a great domain for some XXX DV8ion site ....

 

[katherine]

Visit the domain, that should tell you how I feel

 

[angel69]

I don't think it's that realistic to expect all porn to be prohibited some day in all its forms in any medium (print, broadcast/film, internet), even if they regulated the internet much more for example (I have't had time to read katherine's article but I will... ), young people will always find ways to get it (and big people too...)

Also, not all porn is made the same, some is tastefully done, some is the result of artistic expression and can even be praised, other types as adult entertainment like soft porn can be enjoyed even by married couples. There will always be a way to obtain XXX material even 1000 years from now (and hopefully it'll still be free....)

Some cultures already ban porn in all forms which makes their young people feel more curious and attracted to it, like drugs or anything that's forbidden. Sometimes those efforts by lawmakers are actually counterproductive. It's human nature. Smoking is already really expensive (unaffordable in fact), drinking is already regulated (you can vote and even smoke at 18 but you need to be 21 to drink legally in the US....) Drugs are still illegal (except maybe in CO.... lmao) But porn regulation has a nanny state or Big Brother thing to it. Parents can cut down a lot on what internet access kids have, I think it should be more of a moral matter (decided at home and by families) and not so much a legal vs illegal thing, one where big government gets involved. It will always exist in some form and in all cultures no matter how hard to get it is, and as long as the people who produce it are making any money from it we can't really expect it to go away...

 

[katherine]

Porn is like the truth, like it or not it is inescapable :yes: