Conspiracy: Toys.mobi vs YouTube.mobi

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Interesting find:

I was searching through Sedo and spotted the domain Toys.mobi for sale. I wanted to place a bid and thought to take a look at the whois first.

Domain Name:TOYS.MOBI
Created On:20-Sep-2006 07:38:33 UTC
Last Updated On:05-Jan-2007 15:32:08 UTC
Expiration Date:20-Sep-2008 07:38:33 UTC
Trademark Name:toys
Trademark Country:CN
Trademark Number:32483129
Date Trademark Applied For:1997-09-09
Date Trademark Registered:2001-09-11
Sponsoring Registrar:HiChina Web Solutions (Hong Kong) Limited (420)
Created by Registrar:HiChina Web Solutions (Hong Kong) Limited (420)
Last Updated by Registrar:HiChina Web Solutions (Hong Kong) Limited (420)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:hc665239907-cn
Registrant Name:fangrong cheng
Registrant Organization:shanghai xiongsheng
Registrant Street1:shanghai longhualu2518nong47hao2ashi
Registrant City:shanghai
Registrant State/Province:shanghai
Registrant Postal Code:200232
Registrant Country:CN
Registrant Phone:+86.02154073260
Registrant FAX:+86.02154073112
Registrant Email:home008@gmail.com
Admin ID:hc665239907-cn
Admin Name:fangrong cheng
Admin Organization:shanghai xiongsheng
Admin Street1:shanghai longhualu2518nong47hao2ashi
Admin City:shanghai
Admin State/Province:shanghai
Admin Postal Code:200232
Admin Country:CN
Admin Phone:+86.02154073260
Admin FAX:+86.02154073112
Admin Email:home008@gamil.com
Tech ID:hichina001-cn
Tech Name:hichina
Tech Organization:HiChina Web Solutions Limited
Tech Street1:3/F., HiChina Mansion
Tech Street2:No.27 Gulouwai Avenue
Tech Street3:Dongcheng District
Tech City:Beijing
Tech State/Province:Beijing
Tech Postal Code:100011
Tech Country:CN
Tech Phone:+86.01064242299
Tech FAX:+86.01064258796
Tech Email:domainadm@hichina.com
Name Server:DNS11.HICHINA.COM
Name Server:DNS12.HICHINA.COM


I rembered the whois of YouTube.mobi

Domain Name:YOUTUBE.MOBI
Created On:19-Sep-2006 04:44:58 UTC
Last Updated On:05-Jan-2007 15:39:05 UTC
Expiration Date:19-Sep-2008 04:44:58 UTC
Trademark Name:youtube
Trademark Country:CN
Trademark Number:20738014
Date Trademark Applied For:2000-01-01
Date Trademark Registered:2002-03-05
Sponsoring Registrar:HiChina Web Solutions (Hong Kong) Limited (420)
Created by Registrar:HiChina Web Solutions (Hong Kong) Limited (420)
Last Updated by Registrar:HiChina Web Solutions (Hong Kong) Limited (420)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:hc579316975-cn
Registrant Name:Qilu Tang
Registrant Organization:tang qi lu
Registrant Street1:Flat208 Unit2 Bld No3, Nanshanlu 222, Hangzhou, Zhejiang
Registrant City:hangzhou
Registrant State/Province:zhejiang
Registrant Postal Code:310002
Registrant Country:CN
Registrant Phone:+86.057187062428
Registrant FAX:+86.057187034760
Registrant Email:tangqilu@gmail.com
Admin ID:hc579316975-cn
Admin Name:Qilu Tang
Admin Organization:tang qi lu
Admin Street1:Flat208 Unit2 Bld No3, Nanshanlu 222, Hangzhou, Zhejiang
Admin City:hangzhou
Admin State/Province:zhejiang
Admin Postal Code:310002
Admin Country:CN
Admin Phone:+86.057187062428
Admin FAX:+86.057187034760
Admin Email:tangqilu@gmail.com
Tech ID:hichina001-cn
Tech Name:hichina
Tech Organization:HiChina Web Solutions Limited
Tech Street1:3/F., HiChina Mansion
Tech Street2:No.27 Gulouwai Avenue
Tech Street3:Dongcheng District
Tech City:Beijing
Tech State/Province:Beijing
Tech Postal Code:100011
Tech Country:CN
Tech Phone:+86.01064242299
Tech FAX:+86.01064258796
Tech Email:domainadm@hichina.com
Name Server:DNS11.HICHINA.COM
Name Server:DNS12.HICHINA.COM


- The TM-sunrise closed on the 22nd of September 2006. For both domains the TM holder applied only two or three days before the end of the sunrise. If you had an TM on YouTube or Toys, why would you wait until the end of the sunrise?
- Why is it that both companies have a gmail address?
- The applicant for Toys.mobi has to be a domainer, because this domain is for sale on Sedo now. A domainer with a TM on Toys (from 1997-09-09) would probably apply in an earlier stage for this beauty.


What have the two applicants in common:

- both applied in the last days of the TM sunrise
- both a gmail address
- both from China
- using the same registrar
- both applied for really wanted domains within 28 hours

This could be pure coincidence, but my opinion is that it stinks…
 

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Perhaps it's difficult for Dot Mobi to verify a TM from China ?
 
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