Curious what number/number.com's are worth these days?

[FormerDnForumer]

I have one in the vault, and wondered what they're worth?

eg: 55.com

Thanks,
Cameron

 

[mike031]

~$1

you should sell it to me, i will pay 2x

 

[FormerDnForumer]

Anyone else with something constructive?

 

[mark]

$30k-$45k +

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

Reseller $30k-$40k+/- depending on quality or I should say use. 55 is repeat, good number so +. Maybe $50k++

Cam, ALL acronyms or short premium names LL NN NL LN LLL have dropped by a large percentage in the last year. Best to hold, that is if more cash on hand is not important.

I remember when picking up a couple years back the more reasonable ones were asking $50k-$75k, some got as muich at auctions/sedo etc, they are highly rare but lately rare doesnt carry the weight it use to. The ones that sold for more were VERY freak sales and should not be looked at, buyer may literally have been crazy.

 

[Theo]

Let's get real. I sold 360.org for $25k last year, so you're saying a NN .com is not worth at least $75 grand? JP, the only "combos" that dropped en masse last year were LLLL .com's

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

Let's get real. I sold 360.org for $25k last year, so you're saying a NN .com is not worth at least $75 grand? JP, the only "combos" that dropped en masse last year were LLLL .com's

Theo " lets get real ", your sale has no baring on anything but .org, NNN and thats it. Using it as a comparable to the open reseller market for anything else is flat out ridiculous and I am suprised at your reply tbh. Besides youir sale was like a lottery ticket and pure luck to have happened, not a measuring stick at all. Unless measuring who the stupidest buyers were.

I sold my last NN last year or so and achieved around $75k and I contacted EVERY NN player going, plus. The next number from mine sold recent for $6X,XXX. That is not to say at least ONE got more I or we all know of and it was a CRAZY buyer with no real market impact.

Thats the market for NN .com all other sales a side, period. If you believe NN values have gone up and not down since 2007-2008 in the reseller market your clearly not a domainer who trades regularly.


Cam, if you sold in 07-08ish Cam you could have seen $75k or so , now youd need Theo's lottery ticket, in the reseller market any way. I just tell it like it is, no reason to bs you.

In fact using 55.com as an example, look at their recent moves, this owner ( member here I believe ) is dumping the last year WELL BELOW their expected numbers per domain ( $60k range ). Ask them if theyve seen a difference in what theyve gotten on the open market. I contacted them several times over the years and always got 6 figure quotes, sedo auctions revealed they were worht as much as I said.

 

[Theo]

My sale - biggest recorded NNN .org sale ever - was a clear indication that the domain reseller market has a lot of air-blowers that believe in price regulations. Kudos to you for your selling of whichever NN .com you flipped, however please save your "How to flip domains and make cash" guide for beginners in the game. Personally, I do not abide by these silly rules; I advise anyone that wants to maximize the ROI for their sales to seek end users, thus avoiding predatory "resellers" that offer a bag of beans for one's kingdom.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

My sale - biggest recorded NNN .org sale ever - was a clear indication that the domain reseller market has a lot of air-blowers that believe in price regulations. Kudos to you for your selling of whichever NN .com you flipped, however please save your "How to flip domains and make cash" guide for beginners in the game. Personally, I do not abide by these silly rules; I advise anyone that wants to maximize the ROI for their sales to seek end users, thus avoiding predatory "resellers" that offer a bag of beans for one's kingdom.

I am not advising on how to flip anything, youve taken this to a new level with me for no good reason, my advice is via experience. There are always a few exceptions to the rules/sales but I have given Cam a reseller over view as a whole.

Youve offered 360.org because frankly Theo its all you can offer.

 

[Theo]

Your statement that a NN .com is now worth less than $50k - is a joke. I only referenced my sale of a NNN .org to simply indicate that a NN .com *cannot* be seriously on the market for an amount close to the sale of my NNN .org

"Youve offered 360.org because frankly Theo its all you can offer."

Syntactically, this line makes no sense. I bought a domain for $2k and sold it for $25k. It was my 6th $xx,xxx sale.

The bottom line: appraisals of domains need experience, not just numbers tossed out of one's ass.

 

[Gerry]

I think you have to add a premium (of sorts) for matching double digits.

50K minimum.

A superb easily branded and brandable domain.

I like the numbers.

Make it an even $1000 per numerals - $55K.

 

[theinvestor]

Let's all just keep in mind what the OP asked

No one really knows what they are worth until they see a sale then they can try to assume they fit in a specific category. The truth is these rare NN's have a lot of value and will continue to increase in value. Whether you choose to sell for 35K, 50K or 100K. There are not that many out there...so don't be too desperate and you will get a fair price.

 

[000]

Comps sold at sedo during year 2009:

64.com $89K
34.com $68K
63.com $75K
70.com $87K
80.com $99K
90.com $73K
92.com $68K
34.com $45K
08.com $103K
22.com $100K

source

 

[Theo]

000 - thanks for the list.

This means that for Sedo sales of NN .com domains the median price was $81k.

 

[katherine]

Courtesy of dnsaleprice.com

Domain TLD SalePrice SaleDate SaleThru Wrds Len Num Hyp Link Source
64 com $89,000 Nov-09 Sedo Auction 1 2 Y N http://64.com Sedo
34 com $68,000 Sep-09 Sedo 1 2 Y N http://34.com DNJournal
63 com $75,000 Jul-09 Sedo 1 2 Y N http://63.com Sedo
70 com $87,000 Jul-09 Sedo 1 2 Y N http://70.com Sedo
80 com $99,000 May-09 Sedo Auction 1 2 Y N http://80.com Sedo
90 com $73,349 Apr-09 Sedo Auction 1 2 Y N http://90.com Sedo
92 com $68,326 Feb-09 Sedo Auction 1 2 Y N http://92.com Sedo
34 com $45,000 Feb-09 Sedo Auction 1 2 Y N http://34.com Sedo
22 com $100,000 Feb-09 Sedo Auction 1 2 Y N http://22.com Sedo
25 com $124,556 Dec-08 Sedo 1 2 Y N http://25.com DNJournal
94 com $81,000 Dec-08 Sedo Auction 1 2 Y N http://94.com Sedo
11 com $188,889 Aug-08 Private 1 2 Y N http://11.com DNJournal
93 com $75,000 May-08 Private 1 2 Y N http://93.com DNJournal
49 com $91,500 Jan-08 Sedo Auction 1 2 Y N http://49.com Sedo
15 com $100,000 May-07 Sedo 1 2 Y N http://15.com Sedo

Based on that list we are at an average price of 91K. But I don't think that list is complete.
It appears NN.com definitely can sell under 50K.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

Well the average price is $80k-$91k based one recent to 1 year sales it is very important to know who bought the names, were they end users or resellers. Are you using 3-4 exceptions to the rule to jack valuation $20-$30K?

As mentioned there were some " crazy " end user or imo uneducated buys at least 3 maybe 4+.

Those are basically all the names close to or in excess of $100k+. Remember the crazy numbers guy who also paid off Marchex 6 figures for each NNN ? Coocoo all aboard!

I see 2 board members who clearly need a kick for their buys, remove those 3-4 " freak " or exceptions to the " rule " and you end up with an average much lower and still including end user buys. Thus at the end of the day all I am saying is if those 3-4 " freak " sales and end user prices affect your reseller price than discard my opinion.

The true reseller price is an average much closer to $60k-$70k BUT that was then this is now. Not to metion those sedo sellers lost what 10% to commish? That is why I stand by my assesment, I base my findings on experience ( my NN sale is list above ), research ( who were the buyers ) and reality.

I dont give my opinion to hurt anyone, I just give it as I see it and apologize if people take it the wrong way if they have vested interests, I understand but I am a realist. You dont make money in this industry by fooling yourself, you have to be a smart buyer an educated buyer and the selling becomes easy... reseller.

 

[clown]

worth as much as someone will pay for it..........Guesstimate 60k.


best of luck with it.

 

[Theo]

Math doesn't lie, especially when we have data available.
What is important in order to gauge a potential value of domains that pretty much can sell as "coinage", is not the average price but the median price.
In other words, extreme deviations ($103k and $45k from the '09 list of sales) do not affect the median price, which is calculated by finding the "center" point of the middle pair of sales (when the number of data is even).

 

[theinvestor]

Acro,

You are taking me back to some psych classes that i took that dealt with correlations. There are extreme values when dealing with positive and negative correlations that are usually dismissed from the data. So, this can be said for domain values as well. You will always have extreme low and high values.

 

[FormerDnForumer]

Hey guys, thanks for the feedback. Wasn't getting notifications on this thread for some reason so didn't see it until now.

It's not actually 55.com, that was just an example, but it is number/number.com.

I figured somewhere between $30k and $100k, so all the rest of the knife-carving between Josh and Theo doesn't matter too much (though I do appreciate it lol).