"cyrillic".com - looks funny

[project2]

Hi,

I am not going to spoil business to guys who sell them, but really funny - I develop sites in russian internet for years but never knew about such domains "cyrillic".com :wink_smile: (this forum is first place i've seen them)

I just asked russian domainers (who deal with real russian project, domains - domain.ru) about this - nun of them knows about this kind of domains домен.com - lol

But if you are happy with them - this is good anyway. If it is not a secret - how many hosts per day do you have from some popular words-domains that you owns? Is it from search engines?

Thank you!

 

[domainstosell]

Well, one top example is rbc.ru, who are also using рбк.com. But there are many more sites up and going up using these domains.

They are IDNs, or Internationalized Domain Names. With browsers like Firefox, and with the advent of Internet Explorer 7, people will finally be able to type URLs in their own language.

Here are a couple more: металл.com; церкви.com. And there are many, many more.

 

[project2]

Well, may be it will be... one day...
But there are some info for you, to make reasonable decisions:

1. To type such domains people have to type first part in one shrift than switch to another shrift and type .com (that is "foreign") - at least it is inconvinient.
2. About 97% of russian internet use *(latin).RU domains - there are more than 500.000 *.RU domains registered at the moment (I am not russian registrar and doesn't advertise it - it is just fact).
3. Of cause we don't usually use english words (exept of "international" DVD, HDD, photo, sex and so on) - but russian words translated char-by-char into latin domains nice. So "металл"="metall", no problem.
4. For several years we have local project - to use cyrillic domains as металл.ЪУ (so even second part of domain is in cyrillic - "Ð*У", so better than "COM"). But even this doesn't work at the moment.
5. the main problem I think - nobody in Russia knows about cyrillic.COM domains and don't uses it (about all russian popular words I've tryed in cyrillic.com - are just foreign parked pages). So It must require lots of makreting efforts (each day makes it harder) to promote this alternative...

But I think any alternative - is good news - so IDNs - well - let us see the future...

 

[domainstosell]

Thanks for the advice. I understand what you are saying, but I believe that eventually this will be the best alternative for people of many languages; to type in URLs in their own language. I get decent traffic already on страница.com, страницы.com, скачатьпрограммы.com, скачатьпесни.com and quite a few more that I have. And I continue to see increases in traffic, almost daily.

I agree that it will take some time for this to fully integrate, but I am willing to wait for it to pay off.

 

[ForumDomains]

1. To type such domains people have to type first part in one shrift than switch to another shrift and type .com (that is "foreign") - at least it is inconvinient...

Not necessarily!

Whatever the language of IDN is, you can just type the name on your browser address bar in the native language and press Ctrl+Enter keys. This is also very useful even when you type ordinary domains... You have to just type "yourdomainname" and press Ctrl+Enter. There is no need to type the "http://" or ".com" part of it.

 

[Rubber Duck]

Hi,

I am not going to spoil business to guys who sell them, but really funny - I develop sites in russian internet for years but never knew about such domains "cyrillic".com :wink_smile: (this forum is first place i've seen them)

I just asked russian domainers (who deal with real russian project, domains - domain.ru) about this - nun of them knows about this kind of domains домен.com - lol

But if you are happy with them - this is good anyway. If it is not a secret - how many hosts per day do you have from some popular words-domains that you owns? Is it from search engines?

Thank you!

Well, I have come across several sites in the past that are using the cyrillic version of a Generic Domains with the dot com, but don't actually own it. They promote theirselves with the cyrilic form, but their actual URL contains the Latin Transliteration. This phenomenon is also very prevalent in Japan. When IDN comes in properly a lot of these sites are going to be totally snookered.

5. the main problem I think - nobody in Russia knows about cyrillic.COM domains and don't uses it (about all russian popular words I've tryed in cyrillic.com - are just foreign parked pages). So It must require lots of makreting efforts (each day makes it harder) to promote this alternative...

Well despite the fact that most people will not yet have browser support for IDN as IE 6.0 doesn't do it without a plug in, they are still managing to type in, in very substantial numbers. The PPC Revenues for Cyrillic.com are amongst the best at the moment. We are assuming that these type ins are not all technical researchers because the biggest area of interest to date is, as ever, porn.

1. To type such domains people have to type first part in one shrift than switch to another shrift and type .com (that is "foreign") - at least it is inconvinient.

This subject has dominated ICANN discussion at Marakesh. Expect IDN.com to migrate to IDN.IDN by Christmas.

 

[memmst]

Just wanted to add that I own quiet a few cyrillic idn's and they get decent traffic from somewhere, but the most interesting part is that the ctr on them is really high.
So, if what project2 says that all idn's are foreign parked, how are they getting russian traffic?
Can somebody explain how is it possible now, when IE7 is not out yet?

 

[klstrphnky]

FireFox
Opera
VeriSign's plugin for IE

 

[Named]

about all russian popular words I've tryed in cyrillic.com - are just foreign parked pages).

I own hundreds of Russian IDNs. Now that NameDrive is showing 100% Russian on parked IDNs when you visit from Russia, there's no such thing as "foreign" parked pages.

You may remember, back in the early 1990s, domainers in Russia were hesistant to register transliterated domains, because they had it in their heads that all domain names should be English words.

The users, who prefered transliterated domains, won out. And the few people who didn't register English words but transliterated Russian, now have good typin traffic.

The same thing is happening right now.

 

[Rubber Duck]

The users, who prefered transliterated domains, won out. And the few people who didn't register English words but transliterated Russian, now have good typin traffic.

The same thing is happening right now.

Yes, only some of the original winners are todays loosers, and they are compounding the fact by promoting their sites using somebody else's IDN domain.