For Sale decent drops drying up?

[Nexmax]

I know there are still some great names dropping every day and there are tons of names dropping every day, but I'm not seeing many of the names I normally deal in. I hope you know the type names I mean. Just decent names that you can brand or sale. I used to find 30-40 names on a normal drop day, know I'm looking at about 15, and of course I get few of those.

Are others seeing the same thing. More of us out there? More end users? Will this raise the prices? Maybe help a couple of the other tlds? Man can not live by two crappy names a day.

Any thoughts on this?

 

[actnow]

Keshe, I think the names happen in cycles. Furthermore, I think people are being more careful about letting a good name drop.

I also think the registrars are getting better about notifying people about their expiring domains. I believe Icann set down a rule about a year ago, the steps of notification for registrars for handling of expiring domains.

But, I do agree with you. There seems to be less dynamic names dropping than earlier this year.

 

[Bob]

The number of good dropping names have been declining for about 2 years. It has been VERY apparent in the last 6 months. Like Actnow, I attibute that to ICANN's mandataed 30 day grace period.

In the past, names past their expiration date may or may not have been removed from the zone files. I know of at least two registrars that never removed them, hence the site and email still resolved. If the name was past expiration, then registrant might never have known.

Now, with the mandated 30 day grace period, (at least) two things are happening:

1) People are noticing that their domains are expired / in redemption because they have been yanked from the zone files, and hence are getting no more email messages. (I see a fair amount of "Pending Restore" status in WHOIS).

2) When a name goes into redemption, speculators contact the owner for a purchase opportunity. I have been doing this for upwards of 2 years now. If it is worthwhile, the registrant will renew and sell.

I think both of these factors have contributed to the decline in good drops.

-Bob

 

[ShaunP]

I think it is like a series of sieves below each other. As the years go by, the dropping domains pass through smaller and smaller sieves, with each sieve taking out more and more "content".

In other words ...there are less names each go around because there are more players taking out content, each go around. As the supply reduces and the players increase, it gets tougher all around.

Shaun

 

[Bob]

Originally posted by aactive
I think it is like a series of sieves below each other. As the years go by, the dropping domains pass through smaller and smaller sieves, with each sieve taking out more and more "content".

In other words ...there are less names each go around because there are more players taking out content, each go around. As the supply reduces and the players increase, it gets tougher all around.

Shaun

This is a great point as well. I think it is 100% valid.

Of course, this drives up prices for the truly good names. :-D

-Bob

 

[Chaiki]

Funny you should all mention... did anyone notice that Verisign reported sitefinder generating 5million uniques a day? That is not very many uniques for all possible remaining names and wildcards of names left unregisterred. You have to understad that 90% of those 5million are TM mispells and variations so that leaves about 500,000 unique a day of clean traffic available to mine in the pool. When you take out the ones that only get one unique every 3 days or so .. that leaves pricious little of worth left in the mines.

My 2 cents.

 

[cyphix]

I think they said it was something like 8 million.

 

[Chaiki]

http://www.verisign.com/corporate/news/2003/pr_20030923.html

"site finder has averaged more than 5 million unique visitors a day"

If it was 6, 7 or eight they would says so.

 

[cyphix]

Fair enough.