Domain parking...

[Shaggy]

Its still bad isn't it. I haven't really been keeping track of my parking for a good while and I decided to dive into it tonight. Its worse then it was a year ago. Glad I got out of it as my main revenue and got into sites before it really tanked. Am I the only one that hasn't seen a good revenue stream for parking domains for years now?

 

[Shaggy]

No input on this or is my post like the 1000th one on this topic

 

[Theo]

It really depends on various parameters, such as the amount and quality of traffic for your parked domains. Overall, PPC has dropped that's for sure.

 

[A D]

It's way down from last year.

-=DCG=-

 

[EM @MAJ.com]

Just like DCG, it's way down down down ... not even checking it anymore.

I maintained quality domains at parked, steady 9-10 scores ... but no gain in revenue.

I think I need to retire in domaining

And letting domains expire for not performing, so don't re-register it. lol

 

[David G]

I believe most all domainers with diverse and large portfolios, which get similar or even somewhat higher overall traffic have seen on average a 65% to 75% drop in ppc income compared to 3 to 5 years ago when it was at its prime.

 

[eDomaining]

Your not the only one, definitely decreasing every year for the past 3 years. Domains with quality traffic hold their own weight while others have to be reconsidered if parking is the best option.

 

[Biggie]

Its still bad isn't it. I haven't really been keeping track of my parking for a good while and I decided to dive into it tonight. Its worse then it was a year ago. Glad I got out of it as my main revenue and got into sites before it really tanked. Am I the only one that hasn't seen a good revenue stream for parking domains for years now?

No input on this or is my post like the 1000th one on this topic

yeah, your post is like the 1000th and 1


Hi Shaggy


long time



we all remember the good ole days... when one could earn $100 in a day from a drop that had ovt w/ext.

but those were the early days of ppc and i think what we were getting then, was waaay above the curve anyway


then again, advertisers had big bucks to throw around and very few could see the end of the rainbow coming

we were getting our pots of gold though!


now, even though revenues from parking is lower in comparison, it is still a great way to earn cash while you sleep


if one has a portfolio where at least 50% of the domains are self-sustaining, it can be a win-win situation

even at a lower percentage, if one can sell, develop, or lease of few of the non producers, they still are in a good position.



i think many, including myself, got spoiled and content with the earnings until they started to drop so dramatically


still, i think it's better than not making any money at all and revenues continue to sustain a much "smaller" portfolio than i had back then.

and i haven't had to put any money from "my pocket" into domains in the last 5 years.


knock on wood

 

[katherine]

There are other ways to monetize traffic, affiliate is a possible option.
It may also be worthy to examine the traffic and take the time to optimize the domains. Sometimes it means parking it at a different provider.

I have to say, I'm making much more in domain sales than parking. For me that's where the money is, and the end users are still there

 

[think]

Great to hear from you Shaggy!

Ya PPC revenue continues to tumble. Google recently admitted taking more of the revenue share from parking and Adsense as the market came back. In other words Google gouged our income to increase their profits. Real nice of them to just grab all the revenue for themselves. So much for their philosophy of "Do No Evil". I guess that doesn't apply to their domain business "partners".

Michael Gilmore wrote about it recently on his blog:

According to the Google quarterly report over the past few years they have been consistently reducing their Traffic Acquisition Costs (TAC) by paying out publishers and domain owners less of the advertising pie. At the moment the average payout is 26.4% and it appears to have stablised over the last three quarters. Remember that this is the average payout across ALL publishers and that as many domain owners are aware they have experienced a very sharp decline in revenue over the last 18 months...

Full post:

http://whizzbangsblog.com/index.php...stry-mainmenu-152/627-googles-next-power-move

 

[fatter]

In the long run wont it hurt google if domainers/developers continue to sell domains to end users who most would not opt to have google adds on their sites but just sell there own products, I am selling more names also when before i hardly ever sold.
Joe T

 

[A D]

In the long run wont it hurt google if domainers/developers continue to sell domains to end users who most would not opt to have google adds on their sites but just sell there own products, I am selling more names also when before i hardly ever sold.

People are selling more names because the ppc income justification doesn't compare anymore to the sales prices offered.

-=DCG=-

 

[Biggie]

People are selling more names because the ppc income justification doesn't compare anymore to the sales prices offered.

-=DCG=-

huh?


are you saying that people/domainers are selling more names now, because the income from ppc doesn't justify keeping them, in comparison to the offers they may be getting for those respective domains?




most offers i get from domainers on traffic domains are 28 months or less and i typically hold a domain longer than that, even if it makes $0 money.


especially if i get one or more offers to purchase it.


in contrast though, offers seem to be higher for domains that make no money


now figure that < scratches head

 

[Shaggy]

yeah, your post is like the 1000th and 1


Hi Shaggy


long time



we all remember the good ole days... when one could earn $100 in a day from a drop that had ovt w/ext.

but those were the early days of ppc and i think what we were getting then, was waaay above the curve anyway


then again, advertisers had big bucks to throw around and very few could see the end of the rainbow coming

we were getting our pots of gold though!


now, even though revenues from parking is lower in comparison, it is still a great way to earn cash while you sleep


if one has a portfolio where at least 50% of the domains are self-sustaining, it can be a win-win situation

even at a lower percentage, if one can sell, develop, or lease of few of the non producers, they still are in a good position.



i think many, including myself, got spoiled and content with the earnings until they started to drop so dramatically


still, i think it's better than not making any money at all and revenues continue to sustain a much "smaller" portfolio than i had back then.

and i haven't had to put any money from "my pocket" into domains in the last 5 years.


knock on wood

Hey B! I still check this place out but not much to say anymore. I still have a good amount of domains and a good amount of traffic names but not making anywhere close to what I was a few years ago. Yep, the good ole days, right B! I was glad I decided to go the site route and not have all my eggs in one basket. I once made $xx,xxx a month off domain parking and now its $xxx a month. I don't even check my stats much anymore either. Pretty sad.

Great to hear from you Shaggy!

Ya PPC revenue continues to tumble. Google recently admitted taking more of the revenue share from parking and Adsense as the market came back. In other words Google gouged our income to increase their profits. Real nice of them to just grab all the revenue for themselves. So much for their philosophy of "Do No Evil". I guess that doesn't apply to their domain business "partners".

Michael Gilmore wrote about it recently on his blog:

Hey Think!! Well thats lovely to hear how google just decided to do that..... Do any of you think when the economy gets back on track, parking will too?

 

[INFORG]

Don't you guys think this is more of a supply and demand issue? With faster internet speed, more applications wired in, and more people than ever online, that increases the supply of impressions and clicks - which would necessarily decrease the value of each. Pull out the over-exuberance of the dot com bubble, and you end up where we are.

Also, the continued consolidation of providers means they can keep increasingly more of the revenue.

If you aren't actively looking for other options like leasing, direct ad sales, affiliates and full blown development, you are leaving a lot of money on the table. Parking is nice for short term holding, or TM stuff you can't do anything with, but it ceased to be a great business model several years ago. The good news is that development and affiliate tools are so much more advanced and cheap (or free) these days.

 

[Deleted member 111831]

Google taking more of the pie certainly doesn't help but I think there is a big factor here people aren't seeing.

People are becoming more aware of a what a parked page is than they were in the past. People making big bucks in the early days of parking makes sense. Confused surfers thought they were on the correct site and tried to find their way to what they wanted and ended up clicking ad links etc. Now they see a parked page and instantly know what it is, and they click away. No revenue.

This will only increase in time and revenues will keep going down. Probably not to nothing but it wouldn't shock me to see people in 2015 saying exactly what we are today - I remember the gold ole days back in 2010 etc etc.

 

[katherine]

People making big bucks in the early days of parking makes sense. Confused surfers thought they were on the correct site and tried to find their way to what they wanted and ended up clicking ad links etc. Now they see a parked page and instantly know what it is, and they click away. No revenue.

I get what you're saying but in the end it all boils down to conversion. If people are looking to purchase a product or a service, and are presented with relevant advertising, no reason why they would not click the links.
Back in the early days people were less Internet-savvy but I doubt all their clicks were not generating any purchases.

Parking would already be dead if there was no conversion.

 

[Biggie]

Parking would already be dead if there was no conversion.

so true.....and that's why i continue to try and exploit it to the fullest!


not to say i haven't been doing a little deving and affiliate digging, but because as a "lazy domainer", it's the easiest route

 

[think]

H
Hey Think!! Well thats lovely to hear how google just decided to do that..... Do any of you think when the economy gets back on track, parking will too?

Parking revenue already came back but Google kept increasing their share as it came back almost making it almost undetectable if it weren't for people reporting Google's admitting it in their earnings reports. I understand that there are more viable options than parking but what Google is doing is reprehensible.

I am amazed domain owners aren't calling Google out for taking all the revenue. It's almost as if domain investors are willing to just let Google do what ever they please. No one wants to talk about Google being the evil pig that they've become as our "business partners". I've always been a big fan of the many things Google does but when it comes to their attitude towards parking and adsense partners they are truly acting like corporate scum.

I don't see any future for parking unless Google is broken up under antitrust laws or one or two more parties enter parking in a big way and offering a better share of the revenue to their domain partners. Honestly I don't see either scenario happening and basically expect Google to kill parking as a viable investment option and milk it for all it's worth.

 

[fatter]

Google taking more of the pie certainly doesn't help but I think there is a big factor here people aren't seeing.

People are becoming more aware of a what a parked page is than they were in the past. People making big bucks in the early days of parking makes sense. Confused surfers thought they were on the correct site and tried to find their way to what they wanted and ended up clicking ad links etc. Now they see a parked page and instantly know what it is, and they click away. No revenue.

This will only increase in time and revenues will keep going down. Probably not to nothing but it wouldn't shock me to see people in 2015 saying exactly what we are today - I remember the gold ole days back in 2010 etc etc.

I am not sure people being aware of parked pages is the reason , my click rates are pretty much the same as they have always been. I would love to see all domainers get together in a joint venture, parked sedo fabulous etc and join forces to sell adds directly to endusers and cut out google completely