Domaining is going to it's end.

[macblogger]

We all can agree that it's most profitable time is definitely gone.

No we are playing with leftovers...

On Sedo (we all know it's largest marketplace) is parked more than 13.000.000 (year ago it was more than 17.000.000) domain names and they sell per month less than 3500 domain names.
My revenue from parking is terrible, a year ago my domains were making around $750 a day, now it's just $350 and even I got more domain names.
Last year Jan Barta was joking in the interview for one exclusive business website in Czech Republic (exclusive because membership costs there 500 euros for a year) that Oversee is in so bad condition that it's possible that there won't be DomainFest 2013.

What's more curious is that he had started investing in offline businesses and also denny007 (he is BIG player with domain names) is now producing movies and when he was doing interview with one Czech showman he was like "my revenue is f#@cked up, it's going to s#@t, it's just $250.000 per month) and he also had started his offline investments. He is also selling his portfolio, offered to create porn site with his type-in traffic and we can cut revenue 50/50.

So who is earning money in domaining today ??

Registrars, registrars, registrars, Schilling, registrars. Now only the strongest will survive. Only the top of the food chain.
The biggest players are starting offline businesses because they had realized that domaining is going to fall.
But Rome didn't fall in just a day, it took years and that's same with domaining.

Just open your eyes, I feel like I'm the only one writing to General Domain Name Discussion in the last 3 months. It's like nobody else is alive after zombie apocalypse. Domaining had turned from earning big money to people trying to flip their sh#tty domain name for $20, Flippa is earning a lot of money and it's all fueled by dumb people trying to find some easy way to make money but they will loose it in 99.99999999% cases. Godaddy's Superbowl spots were just brainwashing for poor desperate people whose biggest dream is to have a Ferrari and Godaddy had created illusion that they can achieve it if they will register their "BigIdea" and with .co ending......dotCO (!!!!!) , everybody in the domain industry knows that it's just big marketing bubble. .Co is priceless....

Look at selling threads here on the forum ! It's like people selling everything for $20 or $50...and they can be lucky to get that $50...time of flipping domain names fast is now resting in peace in 2008...now it's 2013, everything is different.


We can survive only by getting to the top of food chain as fast as possible. Parking company, site flipping auction website, registrar, appraisal or anything else where we could make money on dumb people because Godaddy is taking them into this industry. Everybody with brain is not making investments anymore, everybody is just selling what they have and living of their parking revenue which is lowering every month...

 

[DomainsInc]

like any industry, it evolves and changes. you can't keep doing the same thing year after year and expect the same or better results.

 

[macblogger]

What else you can do in domaining ?? It's called domaining because people are trading, buying, selling and parking DOMAIN NAMES. But today domaining itself is not profitable anymore.

 

[DomainsInc]

What else you can do in domaining ?? It's called domaining because people are trading, buying, selling and parking DOMAIN NAMES. But today domaining itself is not profitable anymore.

Its not what you do but how you do it. Parking is more or less dead. Accept it and move on.

 

[macblogger]

Yes, so all what has left are illiquid domain names.

 

[katherine]

We all can agree that it's most profitable time is definitely gone.

Yes and no. Parking: less profitable than it used to be, but there is still money to be made.
Domain sales are still going strong, at least for me.

In fact, some people are making good money but don't make any waves. You won't see them on the forums, because they are too busy making money.

On Sedo (we all know it's largest marketplace) is parked more than 13.000.000 (year ago it was more than 17.000.000) domain names and they sell per month less than 3500 domain names.

Who cares ? Next year, it will be 20,000,000 maybe.
99.9% of the domain supply is worthless anyway.
You have to focus on the 0.1%.

People enter and leave the domain business every day. Most will lose money and throw the towel. A few will learn and succeed.
Domaining was already declared dead 15 years ago, your analysis is late :smilewinkgrin:

 

[airmax]

Well the smart money purchases short brandable names, lll, nnn, niche market industries, all staying true to .com in the majority of cases.

I see people buying backward keywords ie) AirlineTickets --> TicketsAirline etc... and putting them for sale on sedo, expecting to get close to what the proper term sold for. You have to know what sells, and how to sell it, you have to be willing to do some work, not just keep stashing domains on sedo nameservers and expecting big offers.

Domaining is not dead by a long shot, it has never been an easy industry, and anyone that thinks it is doesn't know it well. It takes capital, knowledge, and a lot of time. Why don't you paste a sample of the domains, you think should be selling, and maybe the forum members, can give you some feedback, and education. Lots of knowledge on this forum, use it to your advantage.

 

[hugegrowth]

Some people are making more money so far in 2013 in parking than in 2012, after moving to DNS.

If parking is all you do then yes it's getting tougher.

Many in domaining are also building sites, using lead gen, affiliate programs, etc. The trend is towards quality names, paring the portfolio of your crappy names, focus on quality it will always be in demand.

The internet is still growing worldwide and the demand for good domains is there.

Domaining may not be as easy as it used to, but it's far from dead. What is the definition of domaining anyway, it doesn't include just parking.

 

[macblogger]

People just look at the stats...from 13.000.000 domain names, they sell just 3500 per months...maybe on other websites it's about 6000 domain names total sold per month - worldwide. From about 90% domain names which are parked...I had used to buy DNS errors and register domain names which were receiving traffic = revenue, but since domain parking's revenu is getting lower and lower every month, for me it's not interested and maybe I will get to the point where register fees and revenue will be 50/50 and = 0 profit. So it's really bad situation for me.

 

[vital]

You can't keep your business plan unchanged in a long-term(forever). The whole online business is about it...

 

[macblogger]

The best business model is to get to the top of the food chain asap.

Everybody is less and less profitable, year by year.
It's not 2007 anymore, we cannot take time back.

Of course we can adapt to lower standards and be like we can "still make some money there" but it's final time to take money from domaining and invest it wisely in some serious website.

 

[Biggie]

People just look at the stats...from 13.000.000 domain names, they sell just 3500 per months...maybe on other websites it's about 6000 domain names total sold per month - worldwide. From about 90% domain names which are parked...I had used to buy DNS errors and register domain names which were receiving traffic = revenue, but since domain parking's revenu is getting lower and lower every month, for me it's not interested and maybe I will get to the point where register fees and revenue will be 50/50 and = 0 profit. So it's really bad situation for me.

lately, virtually all your posts have been complaints about various ppc services

you've been asking questions on how to buy traffic and how to redirect it


but if domaining is so bad, then maybe time for you to get out


then there will be one less mo-fo tryin to suck juice out the system.


imo...

 

[katherine]

People just look at the stats...from 13.000.000 domain names, they sell just 3500 per months

I dunno, but as long as I am selling a few of those 3500 every month I'm happy k:
We know for a fact that the market cannot absorb all the demand, and most domains are crap anyway. Nobody will ever want them, that's why most domainers are domain collectors.

Domaining is not easy, it takes hard work, dedication, patience and willingness to learn on a constant basis.
Stop looking for shortcuts left and right, focus on a clear strategy instead.

There is money to be made in the industry, but if you are looking to ditch your day job, that probably isn't realistic.

 

[macblogger]

Well I had tried to suck more juice before my exit. I have always been on the edge with TOS with every registrar and now when time is tougher it seems like my traffic is now not ok for them and I had tried to improve my stats with a lot of different ways.

EDIT: it makes me pretty scared to realize that there is huge possibility that a lot of people brainwashed by Godaddy ads will be reading this thread and they be like amazed how much they can earn just by reading and understanding the market and demand and just by being focused on their clear strategy. Godaddy will earn A LOT. Top of the food chain !

 

[Biggie]

Well I had tried to suck more juice before my exit. I have always been on the edge with TOS with every registrar and now when time is tougher it seems like my traffic is now not ok for them and I had tried to improve my stats with a lot of different ways.

you must not realize that many of the owners of these ppc services and their CS workers, are also members of this forum too.


so when you create threads about how can you buy traffic and how can you redirect it and you don't see anything in TOS about how you can't do this or that, then......sooner or later your accounts will get closed.



cuz, sometimes it "pays" to keep quiet.


imo...

 

[macblogger]

Of course I had thought about that, on this forum is about 98% of "domaining people", I use different emails there and here, different usernames and my parked domains are created in the clean and new accounts on PPC services and I always add portfolio with private registration only. So I am untraceable. I am just trying to find new how to generate money but it seems like it's impossible to order anywhere on the internet 100% clean traffic.

It's proxy traffic, it's generated traffic, it's fake traffic, it's fake traffic with clicking on the ads (terrible)...so it's impossible to make money from fake traffic.

I feel now like on BlackHatWorld(dot)com to talk about that stuff here.

 

[katherine]

And you wonder why your PPC accounts are terminated ? It's the unnatural, 'incentivized' traffic. Dare I say fraudulent and definitely against the TOS of parking companies ?
You are trying to drive traffic to your domains, because they are unfit for parking in the first place. Logically, your traffic does not convert, red flags appear - then you are kicked out. It's all normal and expected.
The reasons for your failure lie in your portfolio. You still don't get it ?

Your past posts would make a nice compilation on how not to do domaining imo.

 

[JuniperPark]

If domaining is dead, them why are so many auctions going into the THOUSANDS of dollars every day on domains that would have sold for hundreds last year?

Even the .info auction had domains selling at $10,000 and more. Dead, eh??

 

[DomainsInc]

If domaining is dead, them why are so many auctions going into the THOUSANDS of dollars every day on domains that would have sold for hundreds last year?

Even the .info auction had domains selling at $10,000 and more. Dead, eh??

thats because godaddy is brainwashing people into thinking domaining is easy money...

 

[Johnn]

The title "Domaining is going to it's end." only applies to your situation. All I can say is you need to learn more or quit and your situation does not apply to anyone else.