Dot EU vs Dot US.....

[izopod]

My feeling is it could come to this. The EU formed specifically to compete as one European Economic Group. I see them using dot EU instead of dot com (in time). First the coinage, then the domain endings..


I smell a good healthy dose of international ccTLD branding coming on...

What say you??

izopod

note: This conversation is way above "Dot Com is King" type thinking. Think 5 years down the road. Do you think the US will continue to let 3rd world countries erode our textiles/manufacturing base??? Probably not, and I doubt the EU will let that happen. Global economies are nice on paper, but in reality not doable for long periods. A retraction is forthcoming. Dot com represents globalization. What a better way to assert your dominance as a company, then to align yourself with your perspective ccTLD...

Keep one thing in mind. I believe in fair-free trade, but cannot wait for 3rd world countries to begin to pay their people more to equal things out. That is the only way (truly) for global economies to work...

 

[NamePopper.com]

Great Post IZO

For whatever it's worth - I've just recently bought my first .US names (including some nice 3 letter) - after swearing that I wasn't going to give in - or using the excuse that "I missed the land rush". I kept waiting and waiting - and then when I had a few nice reg fees sitting around doing nothing - I took the plunge.

It will happen ....... in time.

 

[DotComster]

"Dot com represents globalization" - not true in any way, what a funny idea. DotCom is not Nationalisitic - that I admit and like.

Maybe my being from a 3rd world country makes me blind to the "truth" - and I sure would not mind a bit more pay to anyone

 

[beatz]

Dot EU extensions will go down the toilet faster than .biz&.info combined.

Big difference to .us :

Europe is not a country.

Each european country has it's own extension, like .de for germany, .it for italy and so on.

So germany's .us so to speak is .de , same goes for all other european countries.

Plus there is no such thing like european unity spirit or anything.

The only time we like to call ourselves "europeans" is when it comes to politics, lifestyle etc. compared to the US.

So really no need for .eu .

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by beatz


Big difference to .us :

Europe is not a country.

No but clearly Europe is trying to unify itself into one geoeconomic (new-word, izopod 2002) powerhouse.

You're right in the fact "Europe" doesn't have a ccTLD, but it soon will have dot EU. If European countries can agree to adopt a new monetary system, it will not take them long to adopt the new TLD ending as their own.

Europe may not have economic unity now, but when faced with the prospect of China as a economic might (.CN), and the US (.US) asserting it's might...Europe (.EU) will have no choice but to unify in more ways then you ever dreampt of.

This is more of my own philosophical interpretations. I will admit I do not have any hard evidence showing that my Trifecta Theory (Dot EU vs Dot US vs Dot CN) will play out.

izopod

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by DotComster
"Dot com represents globalization" - not true in any way, what a funny idea.

"Dot Com Offers Globalization Resources"

http://www.welocalize.com/english/company/news/DN.php3?Article=inthenews008.html


izopod


note: In the United States a symbol of national pride has always been the American Flag. More and more it stands for who we are, what we have fought for and our unity as Americans.

I see another symbol of national pride building, only this time in cyberspace: Dot US.

 

[DomainPairs]

Europe is not trying to unify itself into anything. There are a number of treasonous "politicians" that are abandoning their countries for a chance of greater power. It obviously isn't working any more than Margaret Thatcher's theft of the British peoples assets. WE now have the taxation structure to prove this, and the loss of much of our industry and the squandering of our national assets.

What will happen to .eu when Europe splits up as Russia has been doing over the last few years.

 

[beatz]

Originally posted by DomainPairs
Europe is not trying to unify itself into anything.

Zactly.

 

[DotComster]

Originally posted by izopod


"Dot Com Offers Globalization Resources"

http://www.welocalize.com/english/company/news/DN.php3?Article=inthenews008.html

The article is about a differnt globalization - the first is economic and the second is tecnical. 3rd world countries can not compete with giant ecomonies but the internet is a great equalizer.

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by DotComster


3rd world countries can not compete with giant ecomonies but the internet is a great equalizer.

India seems to be competing just fine in the internet services sector. In fact ole Bill Gates just donated another $400 million to India's technology sector. He didn't do this because he is a charitable guy. He did it because he knows that he needs quality, high tech cheap labor to compete in this "global economy".

Cheap Labor is the great equalizer in a global economy. It seems more and more jobs are being sent overseas to areas of the world that will do the same job at half the price. I'm sorry, but Americans aren't going to work for what someone in India will work for. It's just a matter of economics. You can't turn the clock back to the 1950's.

You soon will hear that nasty "Protectionism" word bantered around the United States before long. The rise of Dot US can't be too far away.

As a Republican, I can't bear the thought of Unions being right on anything, but Unions are right we do need to protect our countries greatest asset: Our workers. These countries who can "afford" to pay their workers next to nothing threaten entire economic sectors here in the United States.

Suposedly it has be theorized that in this early "globalization" period the countries who have an abudance of cheap labor will benefit as countries who have higher labor costs will flock to those countries. After a period of some time, those "cheap labor" countries will raise the standard of living as well as wages, comparable to the "developed" countries.

Once this happens, things will become "equal" and true competition begins. I call bullshit. A lot of these cheap labor countries do not have OSHA, or child labor laws like we do in the US. I think the way it will pan out is that a few families in the poorer countries will get rich, as well as a few in the developed countries. I am not buying into this need for globalization any more. They say the "consumer" wins because we will get cheaper products. That it will create jobs that will last (in this country). Ah, didn't Daimler Chrysler layoff a whole bunch in Detroit not too long ago???

izopod

note: India in time will be a force to reckon with (unless politics/religion keep holding it back). China will be a force to reckon with. The European Union will be a force to reckon with. All these economic "forces" will create the Dot US vs Dot EU vs Dot CN scenario I speak of.


On a less hypothetical note I think what could really shape each countries' future more than a competitive economy will be how well trained its population is. America needs to work on this. Education, education, education. Damn the liberals that say every child "must win" to feel good about themselves. We keep up that kind of thinking and we will have an entire generation of "meat heads" to take care of.

"The only way to learn is to fail--just once"---izopod circa 2002

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by DomainPairs
WE now have the taxation structure to prove this, and the loss of much of our industry and the squandering of our national assets.

Ah, globalization on a micro level gone awry...

izopod

 

[DotComster]

I read a Detroit auto company (GM) study about the Auto industry in Japan in the 1950s - a bit before the Lexus days. I wish I had the article - but I read it as text 20 years ago in U of I (Illinois)

I'll never be a force myself (too wishy washy) - and God bless China, Europe and the USA etc and all their TLDs - but dot coms will still rule for a while longer

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by DotComster
... but dot coms will still rule for a while longer

Agreed...how long I am not sure.

I think the US congress has already tipped the hat into the direction of "branding" it's dot US. It will be up to the "industry" to decide if it wants to follow.

izopod

 

[spietreser]

.com is so overpopulated that companies are seeking alternatives. The focus towards .com is blurring, more companies are using (and marketing) their ccTLD. So... .US, .EU and .CN may rule over .com in the future. Heck, even .SR can... (now THAT wasn't serious, hehe)

But most people who oppose this idea of .com deminishing in importance are those who have many .com domains. Of course I do believe that the generic .coms will retain value for a long time though...

 

[DomainPairs]

The biggest threat to America on the Internet is the attitude of companies like PayPal. Stitch up the rest of the world and rely on the legal costs and protectionism of America to keep you out of trouble.

It will change but it's unfortunately a slow progress. The polticians seem to forecast privately that PayPal will not be here in 10 years time unless they change attitude soon. They may change this policy of false advertising (and so could the American credit card companies) and develop true global businesses. Until they do this, America will continue to lose out. Countries like India, who seem to be grabbing the lead in markets like typesetting services, will soon start to offer financial services through their residents in other countries.

There may come a time when it will be bad marketing to use .us which could indicate trading and legal restrictions.

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by DomainPairs

There may come a time when it will be bad marketing to use .us which could indicate trading and legal restrictions.

Maybe for american companies that trade globally (microsoft, dell, etc), but not true for the other 99.9% of American based websites.

More and more companies (from the US) are rejecting credit credit transactions from outside the United States due mainly to fraud.

I myself have made only one purchase on a web site from outside the United States and that was from Internetters.com. So for most Americans we would not change our spending habits, and for the most part companies who used dot US would not see a drop in sales (given the fact a lot of US companies don't accept cc details from outside the US).

I think for US web companies to start using the dot US ccTLD ending would actually be a plus, because for those WHOIS challenged customers, they would know they were doing business "locally".

Again, this is all pure speculation, but I do see a trend towards country specific identification. The retraction of "globalization" has already begun.

izopod

 

[DomainPairs]

Again, this is all pure speculation, but I do see a trend towards country specific identification. The retraction of "globalization" has already begun.

izopod


I think it is more a case of America retreating into itself. The trend in the rest of the world is to increase international trade. Until America realises that it cannot be dominant in international tradingwithout considering trading partners, it will lose more and more internationally.

Remember the Internet training college for fraud seems to be Ebay. American credit card restrictions make this easier for Americans to defraud Europeans than The contrary and this does not help the American image. Check the Ebay forums for more details.

 

[Nic]

""Dot EU vs Dot US..... ""
Doesn't matter neither will pick up, Dot com is, was and will always be KING!

 

[Duke]

Yes, just like Polaroid, TWA Airlines and Enron!
After all, if history has taught us anything it has taught us
that things ALWAYS remain the same!

 

[mole]

Originally posted by Duke of Earl
Yes, just like Polaroid, TWA Airlines and Enron!
After all, if history has taught us anything it has taught us
that things ALWAYS remain the same!

Absolutely.