General Motors Urges More Hydrogen Stations

[H2FC]

I don't by your theory that the end of world is coming they have been talking about it for last 30 years. First it was going to be an ice age and now its going to be rising sea levels.

You obviously know very little about the global warming climate change issue. Hopefully the new 3-year $300 million awareness program just starting up will enlighten you on this important matter.

The only one that has been brainwashed here is you. Your thinking I believe is brought on by left leaning newspapers and websites who hate business and want us to live like a third world country. Living like a third world country doesn't interest me and BTW your not a conservative because conservatives don't believe in the so called Global Warming bullshit.

Your statement here supports what I said about you above. Although in a minority, there are others like yourself totally unaware of the truth and because of their brainwashed state of mind they make false statements and claims like this. If you were informed on the issue you would know there are a great many long term conseratives such as myself who are convinced mankind is slowly destroying our planet by burning fossil fuels for energy.

I call it like I see it scare tactics promoted by the left in this country.

If you understood the problem you wouldn't be calling the awareness program a scare tactic....and you would also understand both the left and the right are majority believers in manmade globalwarming.

You misunderstand I don't like subsidies for any business. Businesses should be able to stand on their own without government help or not be in business at all.

This again proves you know and understand very little about how big business and governments works....ever heard of "lobbyist"?

I don't want the Bush administration doling out any money for taxpayer funded projects for any business whether it be oil, coal or alternative fuel based companies. I'm not against alternative fuels but I am against the taxpayer having to foot the bill for something that may or may not work. Let private industry do it if its so economically viable.

I could write a thousand pages on the wasteful spending of the Bush/Cheney adminstration and still not cover it all. Do you not know they have taken a surplus of funds when they took office and wasted it all? In fact put us in debt for more than twice that amount with nothing to show for it? The USA is fast becoming a third world country and I'm convinced it will be the development and implication of alternative energies that will turn this country around. I believe in my country and the American can-do spirit....and I believe the democrats will support and promote alternative fuels and lead our world with new technologies that will serve to free us from the dirty fossil fuel stigma and put this country back on top where it deserves to be.

 

[fab]

And thats exactly what many business people are doing in spite of the lack of help and backing from our Bush/Cheney adminstration.....its just a matter of time before alternative fuels will be on par with fossil fuels and then those like you will be saying...."Man, this is really great...I wonder why they didn't do this sooner"?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/29/tech/main538451.shtml

There are plenty like this. I just wonder what sleezy & gWhore did for the environment, except for promoting terrorism.

 

[Donald Aquilano]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/29/tech/main538451.shtml

There are plenty like this. I just wonder what sleezy & gWhore did for the environment, except for promoting terrorism.

CBS news isn't a legitimate news organization. CBS is the same company that created false documents to bring Bush down about he's service in the Coast Guard. I can't believe anything that they say anymore.

 

[fab]

BD77, there are plenty saying that Bush is promoting Hydrogen cars, as well as Ethanol. OK, her's another

And my budget provides strong funding for leading-edge technology -- from hydrogen-fueled cars, to clean coal, to renewable sources such as ethanol. (Applause.) Four years of debate is enough: I urge Congress to pass legislation that makes America more secure and less dependent on foreign energy. (Applause.)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/02/20050202-11.html

 

[Donald Aquilano]

BD77, there are plenty saying that Bush is promoting Hydrogen cars, as well as Ethanol. OK, her's another

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/02/20050202-11.html

Alright fine but it gets back to what I have been saying before in this thread I don't want the Government using taxpayer money to fund projects that corporations should be funding. I mean thats the whole point in a capitalistic society is businesses take risks and they seem to not want to take a risk on Alternative Fuels unless the Government is their to fund it or lend them a helping hand. That tells us a lot about what they think about the prospect of Alternative Fuels.

 

[H2FC]

Here's something the naysayers probably don't know....and after told they probably won't believe.

One gallon of gasoline (weighting 6.25 lbs) converts to 19.5 pounds of CO2 emitted into the atmosphere.

Don't take my word for it. http://www.terrapass.com/blog/posts/how-to-turn-8-p

 

[fab]

Here's something the naysayers probably don't know....and after told they probably won't believe.

One gallon of gasoline (weighting 6.25 lbs) converts to 19.5 pounds of CO2 emitted into the atmosphere.

Don't take my word for it. http://www.terrapass.com/blog/posts/how-to-turn-8-p

and how much pollution do Hydrogen cars create?

 

[H2FC]

and how much pollution do Hydrogen cars create?

Hydrogen fuelcell cars produce zero pollution when the hydrogen is obtained by using alternative energy such as solar or wind (the primary source of alternative energy in the US).

 

[HarveyJ]

Alright fine but it gets back to what I have been saying before in this thread I don't want the Government using taxpayer money to fund projects that corporations should be funding. I mean thats the whole point in a capitalistic society is businesses take risks and they seem to not want to take a risk on Alternative Fuels unless the Government is their to fund it or lend them a helping hand. That tells us a lot about what they think about the prospect of Alternative Fuels.

It's unfettered capitalism that's brought us into this mess in the first place.
I'm not saying we should become a communism, but there should be some social and ecological responsibility placed on both businesses and government.
We entrust a government to do what we cannot by bulk economy, such as provide education, health, infrastructure, etc. But as larger corporations siphon money off to their shareholders for no purpose other than to make them wealthier, to the point where these large corporations are dictating government policy, surely they must bare some of the burdens normally reserved for those in that position.

The business model based around exploiting resources and social capital is a terribly skewed one.

 

[fab]

Hydrogen fuelcell cars produce zero pollution when the hydrogen is obtained by using alternative energy such as solar or wind (the primary source of alternative energy in the US).

Here's one of many sources I've found:

http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/17_fuels.shtml

it seems that the hydrogen will most likely come from fossil fuels, and the electricity will not come from alternative energy. Seems like this is probably the worst of all options that I mentioned previously. BTW, forgot natural gas cars.

 

[H2FC]

Here's one of many sources I've found:

http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/17_fuels.shtml

it seems that the hydrogen will most likely come from fossil fuels, and the electricity will not come from alternative energy. Seems like this is probably the worst of all options that I mentioned previously. BTW, forgot natural gas cars.

fab....there are many who argue against FC's in cars such as in the article you posted. Many also argue that mankind does not pollute our atmosphere by burning fossil fuels. It should be noted that story you posted is almost 5 years old and much has changed since then. That same guy may have a different opinion now than he did 5 years ago.

Development of hydrogen fuelcell technology with clean energy is an ongoing pursuit. More and more are moving into this activity everyday just as they are in other alternative energy careers. Technology advancements are always for the better and I believe hydrogen fuelcells will continue to be improved as new developments are found and implimented. They will soon become our most valuable tools for electric energy production....both stationary and mobile. Fossil fuels will go the way the dinosaurs did before them.