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iBizStart

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I wasn't too sure about pool.com but I got my first one from them today. Nothing biggy but it did have a small NW bid and a snap on it
SerengetiSunglasses.com

Overture:
5095 serengeti sun glasses
 
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Pool is good.

My only complaint about them is that every name I get at Pool goes into an auction. And, originally, the auction price use to be less than NW high bid. But, this week. The prices are going much higher than the NW high bid.
 

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right. at first auction prices were reasonable, now they're going through the roof.
 

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Well if you hated the WLS what I would hate more is if there was one post auction site where the majority of caught domains went to the highest bidder. Think of the nightmare senario if the WLS does indeed fail. Larger players will swallow up all the small registrars. And buydomains will be even stronger than ever. Should be interesting as we watch people jockey for positions.
 

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right now everyone has a chance. if you have the dough, you'll
get any drop you want (pretty much).

if WLS comes around BD will do what they do now, place WLS
subscriptions THE MICRO SECOND a WLS subscription for a
domain is allowed. in other words, we go from SOME chance,
to no chance, since WLS will always get.

how does this help the little guys? for $24 BD will eat everything.
 

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Well from what I gathered you could back order any name any time.
This seems the only way that the WLS would be effective to counter this.
 

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that would mean that BD and Ult could backorder domains as
they do now, MONTHS before they expire, not to mention drop.

instead of paying $24 to snap, they'd pay $24 to WLS and always
get the name.

are you gonna have the funds and resources to place WLS
subscriptions on domains before they hit Hold?
 
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Originally posted by DomainRetriever
THE MICRO SECOND a WLS subscription for a
domain is allowed. in other words, we go from SOME chance,
to no chance, since WLS will always get.

Let's all propose to Verisign to adopt a round robin system for WLS allocations :D That should spanner the works of those with privileged RRP access big time (assuming that WLS securement uses this mode)

I DON'T BELIEVE the WLS system will work via the raw RRP method at all, but through a Snapnames database interphase. It's like trying to hand grab dropped domains using your registrar.

The big players obviously know these considerations, that is why they are all concerned enough to issue lawsuits to try to stop this nightmare.
 
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mole

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Originally posted by DomainRetriever
are you gonna have the funds and resources to place WLS
subscriptions on domains before they hit Hold?

Yes :D Niche players don't waste their bullets shooting at every crow in the sky. They just machine gun down one or two birds at any one time.
 
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mole

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Originally posted by DomainRetriever
how does this help the little guys? for $24 BD will eat everything.

I doubt it will be $24, more like the $69 Snaps is charging for a snapback right now.
 
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mole

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Originally posted by actnow
My only complaint about them is that every name I get at Pool goes into an auction. And, originally, the auction price use to be less than NW high bid. But, this week. The prices are going much higher than the NW high bid.

Any examples, act?
 

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the wls papers stated either $24, or $26, too late for me to remember (mind works slower at night ;) ).

than again, im sure if they came up with some bs reason to raise
the price, they wouldn't hesitate to do so.
 
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Originally posted by DomainRetriever
the wls papers stated either $24, or $26

Yes, the price is what registrars will have to pay Verisign for any .com or .net names that fall under WLS protection, similar to the $5 Verisign charges for every .com and .net registered/renewed.

You forget Snapnames and the registrars. They obviously need a cut of the pie.
 

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Originally posted by mole
Yes, the price is what registrars will have to pay Verisign for any .com or .net names that fall under WLS protection, similar to the $5 Verisign charges for every .com and .net registered/renewed.

You forget Snapnames and the registrars. They obviously need a cut of the pie.

I remember mole as a hardcore WLS supporter. Be it $24, $50 or $500, I believe he will still support WLS, so I think there's no need to argue this point :D. And this thread is about pool.com. I used them but all names ended up in auction for hundreds.
 

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I used them but all names ended up in auction for hundreds.

Well this in my opinion will be the largest revenue generation model of any around which will help them to pick up other registrars. The more registrars the more spoils to go around (as they catch more domains).....which means higher bidding prices all around. I do not like this at all. I don't think a registrar should be able to hold a domain ransom to the highest bidder after it's been caught. To me this is like people who work at department stores who take out all the valuable star wars merchandise/collectibles and put it aside to where it never even makes it out on the store shelves....but instead on ebay later to the highest bidder.

If Verisign does allow registrars to mark up the price then they will benefit from the WLS at a moderate and decent level. Right now registrars are simply greedy SOBs. They were originally in the business of domain registration not pimping domains like high class call girls.
 

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It looks like buydomains is also using pool?
Yesterday gelijk.com and seaspirit.com
 
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