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Google Founders unveil electric car company (cars go 300 miles per charge)

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Its a beautiful car and I love the idea of NO EMISSIONS....

But....they never tell you about the emissions produced to provide the electricity to charge the batteries.

Unless clean renewable alternative energies are used for this purpose there is no help for our environment.
 

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I think Tesla been available for some time, no?
 

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Oil is the backbone of any society and is used in many products so it isn't going bye bye as you say. The car has some potential but it doesn't use an alternative fuel source. You will have to plug it in somewhere to charge it and that power is coming from ???
 
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Oil is the backbone of any society and is used in many products so it isn't going bye bye as you say. The car has some potential but it doesn't use an alternative fuel source. You will have to plug it in somewhere to charge it and that power is coming from ???
Don,

"Oil is the backbone of any society"

Spoken like a Saudi prince! -- Don, are you a Saudi prince?

Don, you are a true, anti-science, myopic dinosaur-- as time unfolds, you will not have to "plug it in" -- MIT is finalizing "wireless chargers" whereby the "energy" for the charger is absorbed via the sun and wind.

I betcha you have antiques sprinkled your home -- the iPhone will be charged with micro solar panels in 3 to 5 years -- no old fashioned "plug it in"

Don, do you have a forward-thinking bone in your body? No!

Our inventors, our entrepreneurial class is filled with ordinary people doing extraordinary things
 

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Google sucks monkey balls
 

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Google sucks monkey balls

With respect to parking payouts, I agree.

I too enjoy being fed by the Yahoo Parked feed, Focus -- especially munchin on those credit card names :cool:
 

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I'm a big fan of the electric car, but they do have a way to go before it becomes economical.
 

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Larry and Sergey are pulling a classic "Bill Gates" maneuver. Rape, pillage, and plunder with the right hand... save the world with the left hand.

Nothing more than PR...
 

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Larry and Sergey are pulling a classic "Bill Gates" maneuver. Rape, pillage, and plunder with the right hand... save the world with the left hand.

Nothing more than PR...

You mean Larry and Balki :D
 

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Daimler teams with Tesla and injects them with capital ... myopic naysayers be damned!

Silicon Valley electric car manufacturer Tesla Motors got another shot in the arm today from German auto giant Daimler, which took a 10 percent stake in the company and expanded its partnership with Tesla to equip future Mercedes-Benz vehicles with electric lithium-ion batteries. Mercedes has been testing Tesla’s batteries in a fleet of 100 smart cars, and is already moving into limited production. But with this agreement, Mercedes now expects to roll out its first battery-powered Mercedes-Benz in 2010, and offer battery-powered vehicles for all of its models by 2012.

The amount invested was not disclosed, but even more valuable to Tesla is the vote of confidence from one of the world’s leading auto companies. In a press release, Daimler proclaims: “Tesla is the only production automaker selling a highway capable electric vehicle in North America and Europe.”

The money will no doubt help as well, since Tesla still needs a few hundred million dollars to produce its own $50,000 Model S, which is half the price of its first car, the Tesla Roadster.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/1...take-in-tesla-motors-wheres-my-electric-benz/
 

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Oil is the backbone of any society and is used in many products so it isn't going bye bye as you say. The car has some potential but it doesn't use an alternative fuel source. You will have to plug it in somewhere to charge it and that power is coming from ???


It depends on where you live right now. In my province that electric power is most likely derived from hydro power - so it's as clean as you can get. But at the same time if you live elsewhere that power will be coming from coal, natural gas or even the somewhat cleaner nuclear power... for now.

Wind and solar farms are coming online each week so in the not to distant future clean power for electric cars is not a big stretch regardless of where you live. We have to start somewhere!

I caught a show that featured the tesla car - nice and fast! :eek:k:
 

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I think Tesla been available for some time, no?

(Nikolai) Tesla had a TON of great inventions that were green around the turn of the century (1899-1900) but many of his inventions were "bought" or squashed by Thomas Edison.

But we're seeing his inventions coming back now - AC powered lights (fluorescent, which also gave us the "high efficiency" bulbs we see today.

The electric car, hydroelectric power, the ability to transport electricity long distances though just lines (no substations) and just about anything though alternating current (AC) - including all of our electrical wires outside and inside our homes.

It depends on where you live right now. In my province that electric power is most likely derived from hydro power - so it's as clean as you can get. But at the same time if you live elsewhere that power will be coming from coal, natural gas or even the somewhat cleaner nuclear power... for now.

Wind and solar farms are coming online each week so in the not to distant future clean power for electric cars is not a big stretch regardless of where you live. We have to start somewhere!

I caught a show that featured the tesla car - nice and fast! :eek:k:

But - you still need oil for lubrication in the parts that move in the hydro and wind turbines. Granted - it is a lot less than what is used for gasoline but it is still a critical part of the machinery.
 
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But - you still need oil for lubrication in the parts that move in the hydro and wind turbines. Granted - it is a lot less than what is used for gasoline but it is still a critical part of the machinery.
Oil for lubrication is very critical indeed. But oil is used in many other critical ways without burning it and when its not burned it doesn't produce the greenhouse gasses that are slowly but surely destroying our environment.

The burning of fossil fuels is what releases the co2 and other airborne pollutants that are largely responsible for global warming and climate change.
 
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Oil for lubrication is very critical indeed. But oil is used in many other critical ways without burning it and when its not burned it doesn't produce the greenhouse gasses that are slowly but surely destroying our environment.

The burning of fossil fuels is what releases the co2 and other airborne pollutants that are largely responsible for global warming and climate change.

True - but processing it also releases CO2 into the air but in far less quantities that burning it for fuel (and the processing and production of that fuel).

Even though oil is still used - it is in far less quantities and far cleaner methods so it would release far less (and I'm talking exponentially less) emissions into the atmosphere - it is still a far better option for use.

My concerns aren't about global warming - but more along the lines that the fact that there is only a finite supply of oil in the world and we're pumping billions of dollars into the economies of countries that control this oil who we (meaning the US) doesn't necessarily get along with.
 

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While I strongly support green power just an added note that electric plants are substantially more efficient, cleaner and cheaper in producing electric power for vehicles than when vehicles use the carbon fuels directly. And thus are a likely transition step we have to make (in freeing ourselves from oil dependence).
 
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I think most people support the use of clean green fuels in place of the continued use of dirty fossil fuels but I don't believe most fully understand or appreciate the total picture.

Some people think only of getting us off our dependence of oil because of its continued higher cost and the support of our enemies by using it. Others are concerned by fossil fuel limitations, both oil and coal, but mostly oil.

The main reason to me for changing over to a clean green economy is because of global warming and climate change. I read stories everyday from all parts of the world concerning our global temperatures gradually warming. I believe we have enough evidence proving excessive co2 in our atmosphere by burning fossil fuels for energy is the main cause of it.

When you look at the total picture its not only the limited amount of fossil fuels available nor the support of our enemies by purchasing it from them that should be considered but its also the health of our environment and our way of life thats being threatened. Our children and grandchildren must be protected.

There's an abundance of fossil fuels yet unburned that can and will destroy our way of life if we are unable to find and use a cleaner fuel for our energy. That, to me, is of far more importance than the cost of having to pay a higher price for a cleaner and renewable energy economy.

I agree we will always have a need for oil but not as an energy use. We must stop burning both oil and coal UNLESS we can some how learn to capture the co2 emissions and keep them from being dumped into our atmosphere.
 
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