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Yet more proof of the Pandora's box that IDN's are.
 

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No just more evidence of how biggoted Americans are.

Phishing has primarily been an American issue rather than an IDN issue.

For non-English speakers the introduction of IDN will make them less susceptible to Phishing. How comfortable would you be navigating in Chinese Characters? So you solution would be to insist that every should communicate in English would it?

This fully underlines why it is imperative why Internet Governance must be removed from a nation with such a biggoted and zenophobic perspective.
 

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Last time I checked it was Chinese and Russian hackers spoofing American domains. Duck, learn how to spell xenophobic for once.
 

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It is interesting, but the one thing these writers keep failing to mention is that, no matter what your language settings, these mixed-script domains (like Latin letters with a Cryllic a, as in the paypal example they are beating to death) won't resolve from punycode...
 

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If America wants a uniquely English Environment, it should set up it own Internet and let everyone else get on with it, and stop blaming everyone else for its problems.

I am currently getting about 60 spam emails a day for pump and dump stock from the US. Frankly, we would all be better off without you!
 

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If America wants a uniquely English Environment, it should set up it own Internet and let everyone else get on with it, and stop blaming everyone else for its problems.

I am currently getting about 60 spam emails a day for pump and dump stock from the US. Frankly, we would all be better off without you!

.... duck trust me. You do NOT want the inefficent UN to take over the internet.
 

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Yeh, continue with your attitude, don't fight with me over IDNs, the lesser the competition, the cheaper i can acquire names. You guys can live in the 20th century, i want to move on.

China Timeline:

Tiananmen - 1989
Country wide economic reforms starts - 1994
Leads developing economies - 2006
Biggest exporter of the world - 2010
US$ collapses from deficit - 201?
Biggest economy in the world in nominal US$ - 2016
Reaches Taiwan standard per capita nominal GDP or $20 trillion (today value)* - 2030

*Note: US - $12 trillion today
 

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Yeh, continue with your attitude, don't fight with me over IDNs, the lesser the competition, the cheaper i can acquire names. You guys can live in the 20th century, i want to move on.

China Timeline:

Tiananmen - 1989
Country wide economic reforms starts - 1994
Leads developing economies - 2006
Biggest exporter of the world - 2010
Biggest economy in the world in nominal US$ - 2016

Biggest exporter, I thought they had got there a while back? They certainly have the highest level of Foreign Exchange Reserves, which is a pretty powerful measure of financial clout.
 

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Biggest exporter, I thought they had got there a while back? They certainly have the highest level of Foreign Exchange Reserves, which is a pretty powerful measure of financial clout.


Well, these are (very conservative) estimates based on false growth report of 9%-10% a year - reality is 12% - 15%, the guys in Beijing do not want to scare the international community.

North East Asia economy is going to be larger than Europe and America combined by 2020/30 - this is a confirmed thing, not even a guess.

China will achieve at least Taiwan standards by 2030, with cities like Shanghai soaring above even Tokyo.

Assuming 1.3 billion population and $15k per capita = that's $20 trillion in today's money. Even with that, China as a whole has not reached developed status. So, even as a developing economy, China can still be the world's largest economy.

If it still sounds impossible to anyone, consider taht China had been holding that economic superpower position for at least 1500 years before barbarian rule took over in the 17th century. 300 years of barbarian rule stifled the economy, led to negative innovation, the opium war, then civil war, followed by WWII, and then civil war again, and finally mad mao's experiments with famine.
 

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Loved the China timeline. You must be reading too many Tom Clancy novels. Forgot to tell us when exactly:

China economy collapses due to over-consumption of natural resources.
Disease, famine, bird flu epidemic - 200 million Chinese die.
Martial law declared
China invades Taiwan - US blockades China - Russia attacks China
China launches nuclear missiles against the US west Coast
WWIII erupts.
 

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Hmmm.... Interesting. However, the point remains that "mixed-script domains (like Latin letters with a Cryllic a, as in the paypal example they are beating to death) won't resolve from punycode..."

IN other words, IE7 doesn't allow that type of phishing.

Also, the user will have his/her own language as the default language. If you, as an English speaker, do not want to see Cyrillic or Thai IDN domain names resolve, you can view them as punycode only. No phishing threat for those afraid of IDNs.

Finally, I see plenty of type-in traffic as it is. It is getting better every month. People actually do use different 'country' keyboards and they actually do want to use them.
 

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Loved the China timeline. You must be reading too many Tom Clancy novels. Forgot to tell us when exactly:

China economy collapses due to over-consumption of natural resources.
Disease, famine, bird flu epidemic - 200 million Chinese die.
Martial law declared
China invades Taiwan - US blockades China - Russia attacks China
China launches nuclear missiles against the US west Coast
WWIII erupts.


Yes, this is what the typical Western psychic that is infactuated with "god given" or race justified war powers, doesn't quite apply to the present day orient. Remember, the Chinese are now greedy people - but not for land or power, but your money. People now do not care for religion or ideology.
 

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Some quick facts about China:

Far from being a democracy. Annexation of Hong Kong has changed little in the mainland.

Largest source of pirated media in the world.

Largest toxic pollution of water resources in the world.

Chinese products: cheap and of dubious quality. Avoid: Chinese textiles, stuffed toys and steel products.

I don't know how China qualifies to be a big player. They are a big market by sheer numbers but India has more quality and resources.
 

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Loved the China timeline. You must be reading too many Tom Clancy novels. Forgot to tell us when exactly:

China economy collapses due to over-consumption of natural resources.
Disease, famine, bird flu epidemic - 200 million Chinese die.
Martial law declared
China invades Taiwan - US blockades China - Russia attacks China
China launches nuclear missiles against the US west Coast
WWIII erupts.

Yes, well that is your level of understanding is it.

A global pandemic will mean that those who have the best communication links are going to be the worst affected. US would probably be hit every bit as hard as China.

Why would China declare martial law? Not really a necessary step in a totalitarian state is it. That only ever happens to democracies.

China is unlikely to invade Taiwan unless it goes for formal independence. The current stand-off will persist until Taiwan rejoins. US is not really capable of blockading China. Don't forget this your bank manageer your talking about. If China cut off financial support the US economy would collapse.

If China is going to hit the US with a Nuclear Strike it ain't just the West Coast you will need to worry about. I doubt if they are that interested, but if they wanted Russian Military technology they could easily buy it in.

If you want a Third World War, you'd better talk to George before he gets banged up with his buddies.

Some quick facts about China:

Far from being a democracy. Annexation of Hong Kong has changed little in the mainland.

Largest source of pirated media in the world.

Largest toxic pollution of water resources in the world.

Chinese products: cheap and of dubious quality. Avoid: Chinese textiles, stuffed toys and steel products.

I don't know how China qualifies to be a big player. They are a big market by sheer numbers but India has more quality and resources.

Annexation is an odd word for what actually happened. The British returned it to China under treaties.

On the Environment the US is the World's biggest problem, won't admit that Global Warming is even a real phenomenon, and won't cooperate with any International initiatives.

If China is producing crap, then you cannot really blame them. It is the customer that determines the specification. Americans must be easily pleased or just naive.
 

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My level of understanding matched the futuristic projections of China as a financial superpower, per the poster's statement above.

As for George, I'm not a fan of his.

If China is producing crap, then you cannot really blame them. It is the customer that determines the specification. Americans must be easily pleased or just naive.

No, the producer abides with international ISO / specifications set forth by the respective industry watchdogs. China merely produces items as cheap as possible to lower cost and maximize revenue. This is the result of an oppressive communist society that all of a sudden was given some routes of engaging in international commerce. China has been blocked in many markets in the European Union until it's found to be compliant.

I am not an American and I don't recommend Chinese products. But I challenge you to buy "quality" silverware with British-sounding names and "Made in China" in small print; then sit back and watch how fast the steel corrodes.
 

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Some quick facts about China:

Far from being a democracy. Annexation of Hong Kong has changed little in the mainland.

Largest source of pirated media in the world.

Largest toxic pollution of water resources in the world.

Chinese products: cheap and of dubious quality. Avoid: Chinese textiles, stuffed toys and steel products.

I don't know how China qualifies to be a big player. They are a big market by sheer numbers but India has more quality and resources.

1. I'm not talking about politics, i live in Singapore, there are brand new BMWs all over the roads, out of 8 cars, 1 is a BMW or a Merc, and we are talking about 150% sales tax on every car so even a 318 costs 100K American dollars (and which might be scrapped after 10 years, by law). Yet, I do not see any democracy around me.

2. As for piracy and cheap products, Japan went through that phase a few decades ago, Taiwan had that in the 80s, and South Korea, the 90s. Today, no one will say Japanese products like their cars are poor quality or cheap. :p

As for India, i can't comment as i do not know much about India. But i see your point, India receives many times more direct investment than China does from the West, particularly, America. This commie image thing is really quite intimidating - Tiananmen was only not too long ago, a year before the first Iraq invasion. And as a result, the West lost a great deal of opportunities to place it's bets on this emerging market. Most of the infrastructure in China are built by businessmen in Hong Kong and Taiwan and South east asia, and they alone, with meagre resources, managed to kickstart its economy.

I don't know how China qualifies to be a big player
-> Look, we are here talking about the future. Present day, they are not a big player yet, but the signs are very obvious it wouldn't take many more years for them to become one.
 
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