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I was wondering with all domainers and site designers on this forum has anyone allocated domains for development with a designer for a partnership. Or are there any sites out there like this. I get offers all the time for domains that I wont sell under a certain amount, and alot of the time the developer wants to design the site, but just can't afford it. It can be mutually profitable for both parties if they formed a partnership. I know there is the grey area of the actual income and allocation to each party which makes a venture like this tricky, but man, as so many domains with great potential just go to waste on PPC parking and redirects.
 
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I agree 100%. But thank god for PPC. Take your ppc dough and start paying for some professional programming and graphic work, one name at a time and in a couple years you could have some very good properties. Some of us domainers spend all of our spare time domain hunting when we should really be working on development. Domains can almost be like crack. I remember a couple times I was able to snap a name, or buy one at a reasonable price, and thought, ok, I have enough domains now. Yeah , right. I still hunt through 30 million or so urls looking for gold. Sad but true.
 

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I offered my design services a while ago for people to do just this, but no one replied - even a simple site like www.toucans.info would take advantage of a traffic name and make some money.

I was offering to make sites like this for $250-$350 - I know you could make that back very quickly...
 

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GT Web said:
I offered my design services a while ago for people to do just this, but no one replied - even a simple site like www.toucans.info would take advantage of a traffic name and make some money.

I was offering to make sites like this for $250-$350 - I know you could make that back very quickly...

That's what I mean GT...alot of people don't even have $250-$350 to develop a site. That is some domainers budget for backorders and renewals per day/week etc. I always save for projects and web design and then that domain comes along in the drop list that I just have to have and there goes that budget. Many times in my case, I can develop simple sites that get traffic and place affiliate links on them, but I can't develop sites with user interfaces, php scripts, etc. Alot of us just know basic HTML and that is it.

I come up with ideas for sites for my domains that I know I can make some good income with, but when I put them up for freelancers, they want $2000+ just to develop the site. For instance I have been wanting to develop one of my domains Webituaries.com for over a year now, where users can upload online memorials and tributes for their deceased loved ones.... but I either do not get a response or the designers want way too much money to design it. If there was a partnership service however, not only would you be getting quality web design because the designer wants to profit from the site but you'd also cut down on all the overhead on both sides. I know time equals money on the designers side but the quality domains and ideas are just as valuable.
 

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GT Web said:
I offered my design services a while ago for people to do just this, but no one replied - even a simple site like www.toucans.info would take advantage of a traffic name and make some money.

I was offering to make sites like this for $250-$350 - I know you could make that back very quickly...


Am I missing some point here? I have loads of domains that are reached through type-in. Some don't make much more than their reg fee value, others significantly more. These domains are parked at Sedo which is free. Why do I need to spend $300+ ?
 

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Am I missing some point here? I have loads of domains that are reached through type-in. Some don't make much more than their reg fee value, others significantly more. These domains are parked at Sedo which is free. Why do I need to spend $300+ ?

Yeah I am not referring to simple affiliate sites (though some may need those as well), I am talking about pay-per-service and membership sites.
 

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and I am talking about content sites (like byalik's) that capitalize on good domains names - if the names have type-ins, so much the better, but all domains are worth more developed and if you have $300, it makes sense to have a developed website with traffic, rather than just a 404 page or a parking page
 

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Gt Web, I can copy-paste your source code from that site and drop it into my Dreamwever and have exact same site in less then 1 min.

10 minutes with all the customization.

Your site is superbasic, and warranties no such high asking prices. Not in this Elance day and age.

Maybe you should revise your asking price?

$Dnf 250-350 might do.
 

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Let's not get this thread into a slam GT mode. I know the point he was making and respect his input.
 

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right, but that's stealing a website...

I was testing waters with my offer, you dont have to be a little prick about it. If you dont think its a good deal then fine dont contact me about it. Yep, you can get cheap sites from some designer living in India, but my sites have a style which makes people want to come back to them. You have no idea how many people have contacted me about how much they enjoyed some of those animal sites.

I never said I was a top notch designer or programmer - because I am not, but your post was pointless and disrespectful.

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Let's not get this thread into a slam GT mode. I know the point he was making and respect his input.

thank you nicpal... :)

just so you know nicpal, I can do something quite similar to: http://www.davidpollack.com/

I also love your niche and have thought about buying some of your names a few times, but you seem to have taken them off the market now.
 

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Gt Web, I can copy-paste your source code from that site and drop it into my Dreamwever and have exact same site in less then 1 min.

10 minutes with all the customization.

Your site is superbasic, and warranties no such high asking prices. Not in this Elance day and age.

Maybe you should revise your asking price?

$Dnf 250-350 might do.

Maybe you should mind your own business?

If you don’t like the price just move on and find another designer, simple as that.

- Rob
 

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Maybe there is more than what meets the eye here..

I really don't think that a member of DNF would just take a run at someone for absolutely no reason other than "charging too much" in their opinion.

If you don't mind Cap, please share if there is anything more to it.
 

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GT Web said:
just so you know nicpal, I can do something quite similar to: http://www.davidpollack.com/

I also love your niche and have thought about buying some of your names a few times, but you seem to have taken them off the market now.

I actually did that one myself trying it out LOL. David, his family and fans love it, so that's all that matters....but as you can see I am not much of a designer.

You can still acquire some of our names Here as we are just accepting offers on them now rather than with the old site.
 

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GT Web said:
.....Yep, you can get cheap sites from some designer living in India, but my sites have a style which makes people want to come back to them.

I have to say, I have had some good stuff and VERY cheap from India through Scriptlance. I have also has some crap too though. It is not something I would 'knock' that easily from experience.
 

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Designers in India are real good ;). Geesh for $250 I could get a full blown content management system and a design.
 

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I have to say, I have had some good stuff and VERY cheap from India through Scriptlance. I have also has some crap too though. It is not something I would 'knock' that easily from experience.

I always get jerked around through those freelance sites. They always seem so sketchy like you're hiring a mercenary or something. The reason I brought up this topic was because if I launched something along the lines of a partnership site, bringing domainers and developers together for projects, the design and sites would be alot more entailed due to the vested interest of both parties. Even on this site I feel more comfortable asking for help in design or whatever because of the community atmosphere. If I could create a such a site I think it may work. The only problem would be governing the hosting, domain and profits so that one party wouldn't run out on the other.
 

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Maybe there is more than what meets the eye here..

I really don't think that a member of DNF would just take a run at someone for absolutely no reason other than "charging too much" in their opinion.

If you don't mind Cap, please share if there is anything more to it.

No there's nothing to share. He just seemed like he was complaining that he never gets any takers on his offers. So I wanted to give my honest input and help him figure out why that might be. I am not taking a run at him, just giving him a "potential customer side of thinking" - he otherwise might not be able to see it on his own.
 

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No there's nothing to share. He just seemed like he was complaining that he never gets any takers on his offers. So I wanted to give my honest input and help him figure out why that might be. I am not taking a run at him, just giving him a "potential customer side of thinking" - he otherwise might not be able to see it on his own.
Was certainly harsh.
But I can't say I don't see some truth to your post.
 

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It depends, really.

I've designed more sites on partnership than I can count. Most of the time I'll see nothing in return. But now and again a site will do well and I'll make enough off of it to keep me interested in doing it again.

It completely depends on the site and whether or not I think it'll make money (and whether or not I trust the person who wants to partner on the development).
 
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