Help For A Stolen 3 Letter .com

[Sheva]

Hi, in the 2001 I registered a 3 letter premium domain, I registered trough awregister registrar, after 1 year I moved the domain to onlinenic and the domain was there till the May 2004, since 1 year I moved all my domains at onlinenic to dotster, this morning I was looking trough my list of domain (a big list) and I saw that the domain was not on my account at dotster, so I started to do my homework and saw that the domain name on May 2004 was stolen in someway at onlinenic and moved on another account at onlinenic on a Chinese guy account and than after some months the domain was sold to an American company and now is registered with an enom reseller, I have all the screen shot of all the data and also the whois history for the domain, I never sold the domain, never received an email for transfer from onlinenic, what to do? I know I can write to onlinenic and the company that now own the domain but I know that they will not help about this (onlinenic made other things like this on the past and never recovered the domain).
I was looking on suggestion on what to do.

Thank you in advance for your suggestion.

 

[Sonny]

You are going to be in bad shape. If the name is worth less than a few thousand then I would probably write it off as a loss because the headache and effort to retrieve it will be immense (since there is likely at least one good-faith buyer along the line). If it is worth more than a few K then he will be even harder to retireve without a major battle.

Make it a point to check your most valuable domains every day...not just by looking at the parking page, but by seeing them on your list. If it happens in the future then you need to contact the Registrar immediately and continue calling until you speak to someone in control (don't wait for them to call you back..the name could leave the Registrar by then).

Good luck.

 

[Sheva]

You are going to be in bad shape. If the name is worth less than a few thousand then I would probably write it off as a loss because the headache and effort to retrieve it will be immense (since there is likely at least one good-faith buyer along the line). If it is worth more than a few K then he will be even harder to retireve without a major battle.

Make it a point to check your most valuable domains every day...not just by looking at the parking page, but by seeing them on your list. If it happens in the future then you need to contact the Registrar immediately and continue calling until you speak to someone in control (don't wait for them to call you back..the name could leave the Registrar by then).

Good luck.

the domain is worth more than few thousand.

I know I need to check domains daily but sometime when you have big lists and many things to do tgings like this happens.

 

[GT Web]

I was looking on suggestion on what to do.

Contact a lawyer. But I don't think your chances of recovering it are very good.

 

[NavySeals91]

Contact a lawyer. But I don't think your chances of recovering it are very good.

That'll be your best bet.

 

[Sheva]

I was thinking to sue onlinenic

Contact a lawyer. But I don't think your chances of recovering it are very good.

I have a Lawyer here but as I'M in Italy I think that should be better to have a US lawyer but as you said the case will be not easy so I was looking to find a lawyer that will wok in a way that if we win we split the $ (selling the domain).

the strange thing is that the domain is not active now.

 

[Sinfully Wicked]

on May 2004 was stolen in someway at onlinenic and moved on another account at onlinenic on a Chinese guy

You didn't notice this until earlier when you was going through your domains? you didnt check your domains for over two years or am i missing something?

But whatever the case i think because its been soooo long since it was stolen your going to have a fight on your hands so you better get a good US lawyer.

Sin

 

[Sonny]

I was thinking to sue onlinenic



I have a Lawyer here but as I'M in Italy I think that should be better to have a US lawyer but as you said the case will be not easy so I was looking to find a lawyer that will wok in a way that if we win we split the $ (selling the domain).

the strange thing is that the domain is not active now.

First you need to determine how much time and money you are wiling to put into this. You should first cotnact ALL of the parties involved to see if you can get the name back. If the good-faith buyer paid an amount that is smaller than it's current worth, and if you show him that your name was stolen (without blaming him or making a big fuss), then he MAY sell you the name for a few thousand dollars. This would be a better deal then paying more than that to an attoney who likely won't be able to ge the name back without incuring more expense than that.

If you are close friends with an Attorney then you might have success by sending a few letters to the appropriate parties...but likely not. Suing people in situations like this rarely leads to a positive outcome. It adds stress to your life and takes away your money as well.

 

[RTM.net]

I'm with Sonny on this one - the path of least resistance is always the best one ...

lesson: always keep an eye on your most valuable assets

Good luck and do keep us informed!

Rob

 

[Sheva]

You didn't notice this until earlier when you was going through your domains? you didnt check your domains for over two years or am i missing something?

But whatever the case i think because its been soooo long since it was stolen your going to have a fight on your hands so you better get a good US lawyer.

Sin

I know its long time, unfortunatelly I had many many things to do in the last 2 years and didnt had time to check this even if is strange that is the true.

First you need to determine how much time and money you are wiling to put into this. You should first cotnact ALL of the parties involved to see if you can get the name back. If the good-faith buyer paid an amount that is smaller than it's current worth, and if you show him that your name was stolen (without blaming him or making a big fuss), then he MAY sell you the name for a few thousand dollars. This would be a better deal then paying more than that to an attoney who likely won't be able to ge the name back without incuring more expense than that.

If you are close friends with an Attorney then you might have success by sending a few letters to the appropriate parties...but likely not. Suing people in situations like this rarely leads to a positive outcome. It adds stress to your life and takes away your money as well.

I have a Lawyer here in Italy that can do this without any problem, the point is that I thing should be better if the Lawyer is from US, I will try first with my Italian Lawyer to see how things are and than see what can be done.

I understand the lesson, the point is that its frustrating when they stolen you something and you can do almost nothing....

 

[NameGuy]

Sounds like you forgot to renew it, onlinenic kept it and subsequently sold it.

 

[editionblog]

Sheva Do like that

First contact dotster support and want them last login ip when domain tranferred

Second send to letter to http://www.ic3.gov/contact/ write them your domain name and ip details that u took from dotster .

They will track and find him . You will take your domain back if u do all that i wrote here

Regards

 

[domain newbie]

Sounds like you forgot to renew it, onlinenic kept it and subsequently sold it.

i heard novadays domain hijackers having a new tactic, they prefer to still domains which are in renewal/deletion process, so ones you rememba you had a domain, its being renewed by someone else, and then you cant prove anything

 

[GT Web]

Sheva Do like that

First contact dotster support and want them last login ip when domain tranferred

Second send to letter to http://www.ic3.gov/contact/ write them your domain name and ip details that u took from dotster .

They will track and find him . You will take your domain back if u do all that i wrote here

Regards

LOL, this "theft" is from two years ago.

I dont think that will work at all...

 

[editionblog]

LOL, this "theft" is from two years ago.

Oooops Sorry :doh:

 

[Sheva]

Sounds like you forgot to renew it, onlinenic kept it and subsequently sold it.

No, never forget to renew my domains, I had the autorenew option as default, also the domain was expiring on 2004/7/1, the 2004-04-22 was still under my name, the 2004-04-25 was stolen, also at that time the expiration things that the egistrar can hold the domains without to delete was not in use as policy.

Sheva Do like that

First contact dotster support and want them last login ip when domain tranferred

Second send to letter to http://www.ic3.gov/contact/ write them your domain name and ip details that u took from dotster .

They will track and find him . You will take your domain back if u do all that i wrote here

Regards

was stolen 2 years ago and the transfer was made at onlineic and this was not the only time that happened with onlinenic, that was the main reason I moved all the domains to dotster.

 

[kam]

No, never forget to renew my domains, I had the autorenew option as default, also the domain was expiring on 2004/7/1, the 2004-04-22 was still under my name, the 2004-04-25 was stolen, also at that time the expiration things that the egistrar can hold the domains without to delete was not in use as policy.



was stolen 2 years ago and the transfer was made at onlineic and this was not the only time that happened with onlinenic, that was the main reason I moved all the domains to dotster.

onlinenic is a chinese company. :laser:

I never reg any valuable domain at chinese company. I only reg .cn at enom although the Price is higher.

 

[Sheva]

onlinenic is a chinese company. :laser:

I never reg any valuable domain at chinese company. I only reg .cn at enom although the Price is higher.

exactlly, I started to think that maybe former umployed can do this without any problem. its also happened that a guy that worked there lost another of my domain and after few days a find that didnt worked there anymore, he was the manager of my account.

 

[Sheva]

Sheva Do like that

First contact dotster support and want them last login ip when domain tranferred

Second send to letter to http://www.ic3.gov/contact/ write them your domain name and ip details that u took from dotster .

They will track and find him . You will take your domain back if u do all that i wrote here

Regards

I did that and at one point they told me that they was going to send me the log in IP but they never did.

PS: anyway the registrar was onlinenic not dotster

 

[tinner666]

What's the current status?