How accurate are automated domain appraisals ??

[Doc]

Hi,

Just needed to ask how accurate and trustable are online automated domain appraisals.?

Thanks

 

[Jilo]

they're worth looking at for stats like word tracker, backlinks, alexa rank etc, but not valuation. post your appraisal at dnforum - or alternatively, my website

 

[Biggie]

moved to Beginners and Newbie section, as this question has been asked and answered several times over.

 

[Doc]

they're worth looking at for stats like word tracker, backlinks, alexa rank etc, but not valuation. post your appraisal at dnforum - or alternatively, my website

k. thanks. will post in dnf first

 

[hakita]

removed

 

[Gerry]

Totally worthless.

Might as well go to a carnival and have that carney guess your weight and win a prize.

 

[draggar]

I'll give you their margin of error with appraisals:

Somewhere between 0% and infinity%.

The best option was stated - post it in DNF's appraisals section (don't forget to put at least one domain in the title!).

 

[JuniperPark]

Totally worthless.

 

[hakita]

Totally worthless.

I do not agree with that.
Automatic appraisal tool allow metric comparaison between many domains, based on some objective and numerical information.

Many people would agree that a pagerank 7 DN would be appraised better that the same domain with pagerank 1.

Automatic appraisal tool must be used wisely for what they are, and by themself, they are not enough to define a market sell price, but can help to.

To give another exemple, a calculator will never get a degree for you, but it can helps to.

 

[JuniperPark]

I do not agree with that.
Automatic appraisal tool allow metric comparaison between many domains, based on some objective and numerical information.

Many people would agree that a pagerank 7 DN would be appraised better that the same domain with pagerank 1.

Automatic appraisal tool must be used wisely for what they are, and by themself, they are not enough to define a market sell price, but can help to.

To give another exemple, a calculator will never get a degree for you, but it can helps to.

The bottom line is when you compare actual (REAL) sales prices with the appraisals you can see there is no correlation at all. You can explain why it "should" work all day -- the only thing that counts is the $$$ selling price at the end of the day, and the result is clear: TOTALLY WORTHLESS.

 

[Gerry]

I do not agree with that.

Domain Registration: $7.99
Solar powered calculator at the checkout line: $2.99
Automated domain appraisal: worthless

 

[hakita]

The bottom line is when you compare actual (REAL) sales prices with the appraisals you can see there is no correlation at all. You can explain why it "should" work all day -- the only thing that counts is the $$$ selling price at the end of the day, and the result is clear: TOTALLY WORTHLESS.

Ok, please give me 30 generic .com domain of your choice.
Pease: no IDN, domains must have been sold > 10 000$ and verified on NameBios.

If for you the " all day -- the only thing that counts is the $$$ selling price" , let s make a comparaison.

you could be surprised k:

 

[LarryWentz]

Hi,

Today i came across domainappraisal.pro and just fed my names in it and voila 2 .infos that i though were worthless get appraised for about $1.5 - 2 k.
So just wanted to know can i trust this appraisal. and approx what might be the price of the domain 1/10th or ??

Thanks

I just fed domainappraisal.pro into their own domain appraisal system -

domainappraisal.pro is valued between $7 & $22

Hmmmmm......

 

[Gerry]

I just fed domainappraisal.pro into their own domain appraisal system -

domainappraisal.pro is valued between $7 & $22

Hmmmmm......

and a .pro is how much to reg and renew?

Take my own blog name.

This is the estibot valuation:

Domain: dnhop.com
Keywords dnhop
Frequency (MSN) 77
Backlinks 1
PageRank 0
Alexa Rank 1544346VERIFY
Traffic (Visits / Day) 160VERIFY

http://EstiBot.com Domain Appraisal USD 20

I should sell my domain and blog for 20 bucks?

Thats a deal!

 

[kengreenwood]

Ok Doc - I'll take you up on that offer... I'll even bump it up to 50 bucks for DNhop.com... deal?

 

[hakita]

http://EstiBot.com Domain Appraisal USD 20
I should sell my domain and blog for 20 bucks?
Thats a deal!

Hooo, yes, i do understand now.
A domain appraisal just CAN'T apraise domain content and service.
A domain appraisal tool should make appraisal based on NAKED domain ONLY ( as if the dn was free)

External parameter like content, service provided, compagny behind... can not be appraised.

An exemple, let s say you want to sell you car, you COULD be happy to use some car appraisal to help you know how much you could sell your car.
Now, let s say your car is PINK color, many will DO NOT want to by your car, and you could have to lower your price.

This is the same with Dmain appraisal.
The concept is that, is something is hightly searched AND give good earnings, it will be appraised better that something that is not searched and have bad earning.

With this simple concept, you can say that "Loans.com" SHOULD be appraised better than "ApplePie.com"

That being said, you will ALWAYS need human to appraise the subjective factors.
Domain appraisal will never do the all work for you.

One last, point, if you search in Google Keyword, you will figure out that not many people do "dnhop" as exact search. BUT many people do "Apple" aas exact search.
So, from my point of view, dnhop.com naked domain does not worth many $. ( strictly based on search volume appraisal )

I just fed domainappraisal.pro into their own domain appraisal system -

domainappraisal.pro is valued between $7 & $22

Hmmmmm......

Sure, this domain do not worth 20$, but i do not have the 100 000$ domainappraisal.com owner requested me.... One day, maybe
The only thing that have a t least a little value is the service itself. But that is another story

 

[Gerry]

Ok Doc - I'll take you up on that offer... I'll even bump it up to 50 bucks for DNhop.com... deal?

How long is your offer good for?

 

[hakita]

The question ask by Ans is : "How accurate are automated domain appraisals ? "
Well, Ans, i didn't tested all appraisal tool, but here is a list of domain reported in namebio, with associated appraisal from DomainAppraisal.pro


forums.com 430,000$ (sold $399 990)
pizza.com 1,000,000$ (sold $2,605,000)
Bachelorsdegree.com 110,000$ (sold $62,500)
Psychologydegree.com 15,000$ ( sold $25,000 )
Artclasses.com 15,000$ ( sold $15,000 )
Bruxelles.com 31,000$ ( sold $35,625 )
Herboriste.com 1,000 $ ( sold $12,500 ) Ouch
Belgique.com 32,000$ ( sold $31,250 )
Traveljournal.com 2,400$ ( sold $25,000 ) Ouch
Hobbycenter.com 1,000$ ( sold $7,055) Ouch
Tai.com 13,000$ ( sold $16,510)

OK, it is not perfect, but it worth a try.
Give me a list of GENERIC domains from namebio, and let's compare.
This way, it will be a rational way to start answering your question, with objectivity in mind
Regards

 

[Biggie]

The question ask by Ans is : "How accurate are automated domain appraisals ? "
Well, Ans, i didn't tested all appraisal tool, but here is a list of domain reported in namebio, with associated appraisal from DomainAppraisal.pro


forums.com 430,000$ (sold $399 990)
pizza.com 1,000,000$ (sold $2,605,000)
Bachelorsdegree.com 110,000$ (sold $62,500)
Psychologydegree.com 15,000$ ( sold $25,000 )
Artclasses.com 15,000$ ( sold $15,000 )
Bruxelles.com 31,000$ ( sold $35,625 )
Herboriste.com 1,000 $ ( sold $12,500 ) Ouch
Belgique.com 32,000$ ( sold $31,250 )
Traveljournal.com 2,400$ ( sold $25,000 ) Ouch
Hobbycenter.com 1,000$ ( sold $7,055) Ouch
Tai.com 13,000$ ( sold $16,510)

OK, it is not perfect, but it worth a try.
Give me a list of GENERIC domains from namebio, and let's compare.
This way, it will be a rational way to start answering your question, with objectivity in mind
Regards

Hi

these examples don't prove anything, except to give you more opportunity to promote the use of your website.

 

[hakita]

Hi
these examples don't prove anything, except to give you more opportunity to promote the use of your website.

Ok, Please, tell me an objective method to prove than domain appraisal tool can be usefull.

I previously asked for reader to provide their own list of generic domain, for objectivity purposes.

I honestly believe than, in ten year, the number of people who will think than domain appraisal tool are worthless will be a minority.

Biggedon, another point, if the question was "how accurate are search engine", it would have been difficult to give answer without giving name or examples