Is Frank Schilling's .xxx investment in danger?

[Theo]

Established "xxx.com" sites might steal the assumed .xxx traffic he invested 7 figures in.

 

[Biggie]

Established "xxx.com" sites might steal the assumed .xxx traffic he invested 7 figures in.

that's a possibility

it's also possible he could own some of those _xxx.com's too


but the real threat could be from

.nasty
.adult
.porn
.movies


or

.xrated

 

[eeedc]

The real question is will hot.xxx be better to a porn business than hotxxx.com; will xxx just "fail" (be as successful as) .cc, .info, .us ...?

disclaimer: I know nothing about the adult domain business.

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Dot XXX sounds like another critial mass problem to me. If enough people start using it, it might become popular and valuable. If few people use it, people won't know what dot xxx is, and the value will be low.

 

[Theo]

20 out of 33 domains Frank bought in the .xxx realm, exist since *before* 2000 in the "xxx.com" format. That gives them an established advantage over .xxx; that's the point I'm making.

 

[eeedc]

20 out of 33 domains Frank bought in the .xxx realm, exist since *before* 2000 in the "xxx.com" format. That gives them an established advantage over .xxx; that's the point I'm making.

It sounds like it would be an advantage to buy both if possible. Someone buying Sluts.xxx might want to have SlutsXXX.com to pick up people who don't realize XXX is like COM.

Also if they sold the best dot-XXX domain names to speculators who may sit on them unused for years, good luck building a critial mass of users.

Disclaimer: I know nothing about the adult domain business.

 

[Theo]

Frank claimed in an interview that he's no more interested in the adult biz than the average domainer and that many people actually believe an .xxx TLD existed, for years, thus naturally typing domain.xxx

 

[eeedc]

.....many people actually believe an .xxx TLD existed, for years, thus naturally typing domain.xxx

Isn't there a way to measure how many people actually type in .xxx with Google Keyword search suggestion or somthing?

But with a billion people online, if 1/1000 actually typed in Something.xxx, a million searches occured (many), but I would not build a brand on somthing that 999/1000 or even 500/100 people did not know what it was. Everyone knows what dot-com is.

 

[Theo]

eeedc - The triple x reference indicates a scale of extremity, e.g. "sexy xxx" is very sexy. Therefore, it's a term searched for and it applies to the adult industry, obviously.

 

[eeedc]

Google AdWords Keywords give me 5 million people searching for "sluts" and only 27,000 searching for "sluts xxx" which is the same to Google I think as "xxx sluts" and "sluts.xxx" There must be a way to figure out how many of the 27,000 are actually looking for "sluts.xxx" but I doubt its very high.

Don't ask what other people are searching for with "sluts" but it looks like 37 million (non English speakers I hope) people can't spell "sex" and search for "seks."

 

[hugegrowth]

I saw the interview, he's basically saying that .xxx already gets some type in traffic because some people think .xxx is an existing extension. He has some major adult keywords and will probably recoup much of his investment by selling only a few of them. His rationale made sense to me, it's an investment and one he can afford to make.

 

[BostonDomainer]

Frank claimed in an interview that he's no more interested in the adult biz than the average domainer and that many people actually believe an .xxx TLD existed, for years, thus naturally typing domain.xxx

Bullocks! This isn't .co or .cm here... it's .xxx I would love to hear the story of 1 average domainer who believed an .xxx TLD existed before the hoopla around it in recent years. This is a misfire in investment and it happens in all industries. You hedge-you risk.

 

[seek99]

ALL THE NEW TLD .....
will suck every time domainers get f**ked big time we saw it : .mobi .co
.cm .tj and many others it only lasts for 6 montsh run out and then we see:

DONT SUPPORT THESE NEW TLD ALL SCAM. All we gain is traffic to our main tlds:

Best extentions:
com
net
org
de
co.uk

are ok too:
info
us

Wake up!!! dont get scammed.

 

[dcristo]

@seek99 You forgot to include other ccTLD but spot on apart from that.

Frank claimed in an interview that he's no more interested in the adult biz than the average domainer and that many people actually believe an .xxx TLD existed, for years, thus naturally typing domain.xxx

Maybe the porn star associates he hangs around do, but the average joe blow (parden the pun) does not type in .xxx

 

[seek99]

Yes plus the others....NEVER INVEST NEW TLDS....

*************

@seek99 You forgot to include other ccTLD but spot on apart from that.



Maybe the porn star associates he hangs around do, but the average joe blow (parden the pun) does not type in .xxx

 

[Coldforce]

regardless of who is buying/investing in the new tlds, i dont see any real winners in this coming mess except of icann. Some might profit from it outside of icann, but compared to the losses in "protection" costs and legal actions that the major companies will have to withstand; the profits for the investors outside of icann should be coffee money.

Yes plus the others....NEVER INVEST NEW TLDS....

*************

 

[hugegrowth]

I don't think the new gtlds will have a huge impact, but I do agree that there is money to be made for smart regs. Look at some of the sales .co and .me still make. OnlineCasino.co for example. Even though these are country codes, they are being marketed as global extensions. They have more risk but it doesn't hurt to keep your options open.

 

[the_poet]

XXX.com domains are the real winners. The porn industry has been appending XXX.com to domains for years and that is now the standard way of registering names for pornstars' official websites:

https://www.google.com/search?q="xxx.com"+official+site

 

[Poker]

Every domainer needs to be taking some risks proportional to their domaining bankroll. If your domain cash to invest/reinvest is $1k and you decide to speculate on a new .com handreg you are only risking 1% max.

Frank's port has been estimated at 500 mil...even if he spent 5mil taking a chance with .xxx it only amounts to risking 1% of his port value and he is smart to be taking calculated risks within his risk tolerance.

Also, as we all know, all domain investments are not about type-in traffic and (as we all know) opportunity windows often close quickly in the domain world and they need to be seized while the getting is good.

Every domainer needs to be taking some risks proportional to their domaining bankroll (yes it's worth repeating).

 

[hugegrowth]

I agree with you, Poker.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

.xxx, never heard of it until this year.

.xxx will never hear of it in the years to come.

It was launched to make people money, no other reason, once all the potential money is sucked out it will die too, like .co will, .cm did, .mobi and the next one.

Nothing will override .com, it has been stamped in our mind.

The minute anyone buys into something and tells you it is the best thing since sliced bread and has a bright future THEN dumps it for a quick buck...is lying to you.