Is this proof positive that keywords in a domain have very heavy weight at Google?

[David G]

Here is my thread on word parsing and page rank: 3 days ago Snapnames got me a name. I don't recall how I heard it was dropping but as usual they did the job and got it for me.

My prior research using archive.org indicated it was never a developed website but was used only as a redirection site to a different directory type of website for a few mos last year. As a redirection site I am sure it never had a google page rank and perhaps was not even listed in the SE since its difficult to list and rank redirection sites in Google.

The next day after the successful Snap I put up a very small 1-page website. After 24-hrs the name propogated and was visible on the Web. I immidiately submitted it to the search engines the day it propogated.

Can you imagine my amazement when not only did I find it listed in Google so rapidly last night but the incredible thing is its Google Page Rank of 6.

I have other sites with lots of good content and multi-pages and been online or listed in Google for years but only have PR's of 2, 3 or 4 or even none. Here is a very small 1-page site with little good content and only online for 1 day and it has that amazing Google PR of 6.

The only way I can explain it is the 3 word product phrase in the url is good and was instanty recognized by the Google Word Parsing technology, basing its PR on the words in the domain name itself and very likely little else.

I don't think there is any other credible explanation for this. Do other Platinum members agree on this scenario or have another possible explanation?

 

[bidawinner]

NO.. you ONLY get PR from other sites INBOUND links..the name either has inbound links or Goolge toolbar is acting up..

 

[Keyworddomains.com]

This name could have had a pagerank before althoug it has been redirected.
It depends from the kind of redirection.
Another explanation is the following scenario.
There exists an external website with a pagerank of 7 which is linking to this name.
Sometimes one external link of this kind is enough to give a name such a pagerank.

 

[David G]

Originally posted by bidawinner NO.. you ONLY get PR from other sites INBOUND links..the name either has inbound links or Goolge toolbar is acting up..

Disagree on that. I am sure Page Rank uses other criteria too, including word parsing in the url.

I understand Google has devalued links and is even penalizing overuse of links.

 

[bidawinner]

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/10990.htm

 

[bidawinner]

Originally posted by RealNames


Disagree on that. I am sure Page Rank uses other criteria too, including word parsing in the url.

I understand Google has devalued links and is even penalizing overuse of links.

agree it is part of the equation but only a very small part Realnames..that was my whole point in the other thread..all things equal on 2 sites..content links etc..the site with the matching domain as the search term will get the higher rank..

BUT..you'll never find a PR6 site on name alone..MAYBE a PR1 ...

these numbers are only "representations" .. the true number may be .0225 or something..




"Google's order of results is automatically determined by more than 100 factors, including our PageRank algorithm. Please check out our "Why Use Google" page for more details. Due to the nature of our business and our interest in protecting the integrity of our search results, this is the only information we make available to the public about our ranking system."

 

[avs162]

sitepro did a extensive study on keyword impact on search return and domain name content and extension a while back and found that there was a marginal gain in having match and smaller one in having the term. forget what hypens did to it and com seemed to be better.

cant find the link but if i do will post

the reason i purchased inkcartridges.org was in the hope of se enhancement if i develop or to increase sales value

pr is fickle i had a 7 and used a dynamic site and it was gone in days

and then on update back and seemed to be link related

just some info could be wrong as i am not an se guy

 

[mole]

Originally posted by bidawinner
"Google's order of results is automatically determined by more than 100 factors, including our PageRank algorithm.

Anyone here knows what those 100 factors are?

 

[bidawinner]

Originally posted by mole


Anyone here knows what those 100 factors are?

Here Mole..you forgot this part..

"Due to the nature of our business and our interest in protecting the integrity of our search results, this is the only information we make available to the public about our ranking system"


Part of the equation to do with link farms, with your outbound links, the quality of sites YOU are linking to , internal links..how you link from page to page.. etc..

The single largest part of the equation is LNKS.. getting people to link to you...I think it is a flawed algo..but thats the core of algo..links..

Problem is it is so easily abused..

 

[David G]

Originally posted by Logop This name could have had a pagerank before althoug it has been redirected. It depends from the kind of redirection. Another explanation is the following scenario. There exists an external website with a pagerank of 7 which is linking to this name. Sometimes one external link of this kind is enough to give a name such a pagerank.

There were only 3 indexes from archive.org over a few mos and all 3 were automatic redirects only. I guess it's possible it had a website once with a high PR but not indexed by archive.org at the time, but it is unlikely.

I also doubt there was anyone with a PR7 linking to it if it never had a developed website but can't rule it out Thanks for all your feedback.