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INFORG

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Mid XX,XXX. Minimum 20K
 

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First of all, anyone who ever mentions Estibot, Google searches, or similar white noise is immediately suspect. Same with those who use the words Premium or Generic.

That being said, at first glance the name seems to be decent. Part of that is likely do to the horrific names that haunt this section of the forum. However, the name isn't worth as much as most here will intuitively think. Sure, we can play hypothetical games and quite easily imagine a scenario where some big company, who sells toys, would pay you a large sum. But that is similar to imagining a scenario where a decent honest guy without any WOW factor dates a supermodel. In theory it all makes sense, but in reality you have to bring something to the table to grab the big prizes in life. And tens of thousands of dollars is a big prize, especially if the name was hand regged a decade ago (or bought cheap).

Big victories in life, or big profits, usually require big insights or big luck. It is just not enough to be a member of a class (I am a domain name, therefore pay my rent for a year......I am a human being, therefore allow me to date supermodels). The world doesn't work like that. So, what does LearningToys.com bring to the table? Traffic? Zilch. That means it brings zero business. At first glance, it looks to be the type of name that someone could build a business around, but after checking Google, I didn't see any similar names that were the foundation of any high traffic sites.

If you have owned this name for years and have not received an unsolicited offer by email within the last two years of at least $10,000, then I will go out on a limb and suggest that the idea that the name is worth $20,000 is fantasy land talk. I would bet a large amount of money that not a single person on this forum would be willing to offer $10,000 for it right now. So, if the name is truly worth 20K to 50K, then certainly someone here would buy the name for 10K, and then spend a little time contacting people in order to make a nice profit. Even if it took a few years, that would be a nice payday.

I have a feeling that this name has been in the vault for a while, probably making $4 per year in PPC, and playing tricks on your mind. You keep looking at it, and your mind keeps telling you that you have a gem, but nobody is knocking down the doors and emailing you with real money offers. But the imagination runs wild, and you imagine some huge toy company sending your kids to college.

People have gotten lucky with worse names than this. That is what you can hang your hat on. The only way it is worth close to the above appraisal is if someone has contacted you out of the blue within the last year or two and offered you real money. With a name like this, if it was worth big money, people will find you on their own. I mean, it is LearningToys.com, not some oddball combination of words.

If you have a recent serious/legit offer of 10K or if anyone here offers you 10K (and is willing to do the deal now), then I would be shocked, but I would admit that the name is worth a lot more than I think it is.

It is better than 99 percent of the names on this forum, but like most names in people's portfolios, it is worth far far less than what people will admit.
 
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Great insight whodat...You said what everyone was thinking.
 

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I totally experience what WhoDatDog is saying/preaching. I once posted a name (which I hand regged) for appraisal on this forum. Few members came out and told me it's worth at this and that to an end user (high number to me), and that for a reseller it's worth at least that amount. I got all excited. I'm going to make money!

Over time, I've never gotten offer for the name. I was curious as to the actual value or what people are willing to pay for it, so I listed on ebay for I believe $90 starting bid (less than the reseller appraisal). In the end, I got no bid on it. I relisted and still got no bid. I got discouraged. One day I emailed my favorite appraiser (a member of this forum) and asked if he would buy my name at the minimum price he had appraised. I wanted to sell it to him so I can make some money lol. He didn't buy it. Did not even counter offer. My hope got crashed.

Then, I decided to list it on this forum started BIN at a higher (don't remember exact price), then I lowered it to $90 (I believe). There were no one willing to buy it, not a single response, not even a single offer. No member was interested in it. This taught me a lesson. My domain sucked.

The question is "Why?" Not why my name sucked, but why were my domainer's appraisals were so off?

Maybe domainers like to flatter each other during appraisal time? Maybe they don't like to hurt each other's feelings. Or maybe they don't know what they are talking about. I'm always curious as to the intention behind their appraisal.


Back to your domain, why don't you list it for sale in this exact forum. If it sells, then you know it's worth something. If it doesn't, it's probably not worth it, at least to a domain appraisor.

Next, list it to the public. Do you get offer? If you do, then good. If you don't, then maybe it's the not the right timing.
That right time maybe a year, two? hopefully not ten years. If you wait too long, then you'll know what it's worth.
 

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An appraisal is always a best-case scenario.
What an appraisal doesn't tell is what the odds are an end user will find you. A good appraisal is very relative when the likelihood of a sale is 0.001%.
Any automated appraisal is for entertainment purposes only, I didn't even check that estibot link because it doesn't matter.

Back to the domain, I see it's taken in a couple of TLDs, not all of which are developed. It's not automatically a good good sign but it means at least a few persons thought it was worth regfee in an 'inferior' TLD.
No idea about price, I'm not familiar with the niche but I have the feeling this is a decent domain. But many domains that are nearly as decent are not selling and dropping on a regular basis.
In fact there is no shortage of decent domains, but they are not all salable.
I like to say it's 99% quality and 1% luck in this business, but some domains are more dependent on luck than others. Good luck :eek:k:
 
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