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Sedo asked me about a week ago to change the nameservers for the customer since a domain was purchased on Sedo and the buyer wishes to transfer it out (but can't since it's locked for another 3 weeks). Now the domain is pointing to them and I'm not earning parking revenue on it while at the same time I didn't get paid.

I sent them a message stating this without reply. Since it's my domain until funds and domain are transferred, do I have the right to change the nameservers back or by me changing them in the first place constitute some contractual bind?
 
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You can point it to Playboy.com until Sedo gets control of the domain.
 

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Sedo people are bunch of scam artists. I had a domain there that got sold for $8500, same thing happened to me, I was in limbo for 3 months and then they told me the funds didn't go thru and they just sucked up my traffic revenue. Their parking payout rate is beyond ridiculous.
 

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You can point it to Playboy.com until Sedo gets control of the domain.

Good idea, I only think it's fair that I complied with them and if they won't with me, I'll make a 302 direct (not to playboy, but a random site)
 

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David Walker, I've had Sedo make me wait as long as 30 days for a payment which would never come, all the while I kept the name w/the server setup I wanted, they have no right to ask you to redirect until Sedo clears those funds. Once Sedo clears and he can't transfer the name because of a registrar (or post-auction) lock, then they can ask you to redirect it to where the buyer wants since it is his already, even if you haven't been paid. It sucks, but I think they can. I'm not defending Sedo, read some of my past posts. Sedo only pays sellers once the domain is in the buyer's account (or in Sedo's holding account) and not until then. But if the payment was cleared and all they're waiting is for the domain to be transferred to a new registrar I don't have a problem redirecting it to where the buyer wants. If they haven't paid you but the payment cleared w/Sedo then it's not a great position to be in, I believe they can instruct you to redirect. I'm not a fan of Sedo's, I stopped parking there ages ago with their crummy revenue and horrible templates and other things working against sellers

ntguy, those 3 months they had you in limbo and the domain was parked w/Sedo, the revenue should've been yours, that's low if they didn't pay you that. Funny about David Walker's case cuz I've been in his buyer's shoes, ie the name was with a lousy registrar, I demanded a transfer but I was told it was in some after-auction lock from Pool.com I think, or a registrar lock, but then Sedo said buyers needed to "take possession" of the domain asap, that's what they did w/me, I even told them I'd let Sedo keep the domain in their own holding account w/that lousy registrar until the lock was over (I didn't want to deal w/that registrar directly no matter what) but Sedo didn't let me. David Walker's buyer must be valuable to them since they're letting him

The longer you stay in this game the thicker the skin you develop, so normally, apart from Sedo removing the 'This Domain May Be For Sale' link on your parked page, and not listing it for sale w/them or their partners during that period, you don't lose much. You can continue receiving offers from other sources while you wait and I always make sure the domain is not parked with Sedo during waits like this. So, if you park a domain at Sedo and you sell it, and nothing seems to happen, simply redirect it to a pkg service that will let you list it for sale (any offers you get you'd tell them there's a sale pending) I've had offers thru my parked page, the WHOIS and even other auction houses while a Sedo deal was pending, and you cannot be forced to park it where the buyer wants until funds clear. Usually the push or registrar transfer can't last more than a few days so there should not even be any talk about the seller redirecting immediately (unless the name is making $100/day) I've never been asked to wait more than 30 days for a Sedo deadbeat buyer, and you don't have to comply. Their contracts allow only so many days before a buyer is entitled to demand cancellation of the deal for non-payment. I've only done this once or twice and it was because the auction results were not what I had expected. But if you sold a name at a good price then you should wait as long as you can, you may not get that price again in years
 
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almost 10 yrs using sedo, and they never asked me to change ns

so don't know what that's about


wouldn't do it anyway, unless they had received payment from buyer
 

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Yeah, they received payment for the buyer. The buyer doesn't want it at GoDaddy and since the fund are with Sedo, technically it is his name so if the buyer wants the nameservers changed, he can request it and it has to be done until the domain can be transferred. I just nodded my head and complied with their wishes.
 

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Yeah, they received payment for the buyer. The buyer doesn't want it at GoDaddy and since the fund are with Sedo, technically it is his name so if the buyer wants the nameservers changed, he can request it and it has to be done until the domain can be transferred. I just nodded my head and complied with their wishes.

since buyer paid sedo, then it's reasonable request

it also means the name has been sold, so all traffic is theirs now and i wouldn't fret over it.

congrats on the sale

:)
 

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Thanks, I just kinda thought it was an odd request at first because I believe the buyer has X amount of days to back out of the sale and get a refund... I will have to go over their policy again. I just wish as they were getting paid, I had my money though... :)
 

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David Walker, did you tell the buyer your name makes good $ ? Because unless I was sure of that I'd never ask a seller to redirect the name to me while we all waited 2 months or so to transfer the name, I find that odd too, and Biggedon is right, he owns it already so it's his prerrogative. Maybe he researched your domain and he thinks even 2 mos represent significant income. Did you do well yourself monetizing it ?
 

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Not anything to care about, the only thing that I don't like about changing the nameservers on it and having my name attached are legalities. Which party is liable if the new owner does something illegal with it? The organization the domain is registered to, the administrator or the person who has their nameservers?

Technically it would be me as per ICANN terms, anybody's name on a whois, owns it.

David Walker, did you tell the buyer your name makes good $ ? Because unless I was sure of that I'd never ask a seller to redirect the name to me while we all waited 2 months or so to transfer the name, I find that odd too, and Biggedon is right, he owns it already so it's his prerrogative. Maybe he researched your domain and he thinks even 2 mos represent significant income. Did you do well yourself monetizing it ?
 

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This is one many inconveniences of having a 3rd party sell your domain name for you.

I never have to deal with crap like this because I don't use brokers, unless the buyer initiated the transaction on his own through a broker.

My domains might not get the exposure, but if someone wants your domain bad enough they will always find you.
 

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Great observation by David Walker, I hadn't thought of that. Just imagine redirecting the domain where the buyer wanted (ceding much control of the domain even if it's not in his account yet) and finding out he has a webpage promoting hate speech, or showing extreme porn lol, nothin to laugh about..... and yeah, the registrant (seller) is still liable as per the WHOIS info

The thread caught my eye cuz Sedo did for his buyer what they refused to do for me (I was the buyer who wanted Sedo to hold on to the name until I could move it to a decent registrar, they denied me that, so his buyer must be more valuable to Sedo than I was, or just lucky, but I never asked to have the domain redirected to any place of my choice)

I also wonder what exactly that buyer is doing with the name while you guys wait for the lock period to end, is he excited he might make $5/mo lol ? or is he starting to develop the name, creating his own biz, etc..... it is an unusual request and an odd situation to be in, I hope that at least he paid the seller good $ for it. Two months cannot possibly make much of a difference in normal cases

Not anything to care about, the only thing that I don't like about changing the nameservers on it and having my name attached are legalities. Which party is liable if the new owner does something illegal with it? The organization the domain is registered to, the administrator or the person who has their nameservers ? Technically it would be me as per ICANN terms, anybody's name on a whois, owns it.
 
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