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Any of you appraisers like this idea?

In some states PAWN companies are big businesses like FL.

Now that CA courts say Domains are property subject to property laws and lawsuits, a whole new industry could be spawned via Domain Name Pawns/Loans

Now, I don't know how many of you have ever pawned anything, but the way it works is this way.

Say a piece of jewelry has a 2K appraisal.

That mean it most likely sells for 1K to the public and wholesales for 500 as new.

A Pawn shop looks at the item as a potential used sale item for 500 like a wholesale sale.

So you get maybe 250.00 max on a piece you paid 1K to 2K for.

Now with domain names, say you get an appraisal for 1K from X company.

Y company who loans on domains may give you 50 to 100 bucks.

You have to turn over the reg to them.

You pay huge interest rates like a pawn shop rate (FL about 20% PER MONTH)

30 days you pay the loan back plus interest or you loose the name.

You pay at least the interest each month and you keep the name on hold.

This would spawn a ton of names to the pawn company.

All the defaults would belong to the company after only 30 days.

Speculators that have a ton of names they are tired of can raise some needed cash.

In other words, a whole commodites industry for domain names could be created over night.

Anyone like the idea?

AIS is about to launch one in the cayman islands.

So once they get rolling speculators know they will get the money they need within 24 hours of reg turnover to say a paypal account, etc.

It looks like a great way for a company to acquire some good names at real cheap prices.

WIN WIN for everyone

The loaner assumes the loanee doesn't want the name, so the loan is really what the loaner is willing to buy it for

Maybe the loaner say I'll loan you 50 bucks but if you want to sell now I'll give 75

Could be a huge new market

Anyone like the idea?

Anyone want to try it?
 

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It's a quite different market with domain names as opposed to traditional Pawn Brokers.

Each domain name is a unique item, no 2 alike. Values are extremely subjective. A pawn shop bases value upon "proven" resale and initial values, or on commodities like gold, gemstones.

There is a huge downside risk for a company who offers pawn loans on domains - they may never recoup the amount they paid on it. The traditional rate of items actually recovered from a pawn shop is around 30% - that is where they get the interest income. With domains, I doubt the recovery % will be nearly that high - mening the company will have to make their cash by selling names.

A likely scenario is this:

Domain owner looks through his regs and identifies 12 he doesn't have high hopes of selling - he checks the pawn broker to see what he can get - he pawns whatever the broker overestimates - never recovers them - the broker can't sell for enough to recoup what he paid.

For an expert appraiser with an established oulet for selling names quickly, and at top dollar, it may work. I would not back this one with venture capital.

Just my .02
 

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Actually the key is the loans are for names the pawn company really want

Of couse they will have a huge commercial domain name site

They will probably pass on 95% of the names offered

But when someone says I own X what will you give.

If it's something they want they then say what you need

No pawn shop offers money, they all ask what you need

So customer says Y

If Y is what the pawn shop is really willing to buy it for they do the deal

It's a way for the pawn shop to have an endless supply of quality domain names at their choosing

It's a way for resellers to free up some asset value

Most will never pay the interest

And most resellers will probably opt out for a slight premium to do a straight sale to the pawn company

so the pawn company does 90% buys

they sell a ton of names they buy

they have an endless supply to auction

they provide hosting and design work inhouse to retail buyers

you start looking at the periphial (sp) revenue it's the ultimate biz for anyone who is a player in domain names

here are revenue streams

1. buying names for retail sales
2. interest on loans
3. large inventory for auctions and a killer domain name portal
4. secondary sales to retail buyers for hosting, registration, design work

how soon will word of mouth spread in the domain player industry?

you need some cash?

why post a message

go right to THE BUYER

yeah you won't get a retail price

you won't even get a wholesale price

you get a low ball price for something not worth much to you

with a huge inventory of some pretty good names it wouldnt' take long to get the message out

you get a cool name for coins you feature the name in ebay in the coin section

now you have every coin dealer looking at your names

same with books

same with autos

blah blah blah

knowing where to put a 20 buck ad on ebay is your lead generator

HUGE UPSIDE to this

very little downside since the pawn shop doesn't loan or buy on anything they can't use

now we all know some things have a very set value

so the pawn shop pays a percentage on such things

2 or 3 character .com's

dictionary words, etc

they steal combo and other names

starting to see the upside?
 

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Im not a forensics expert, but M0ney sure has the same typing characteristics as AIS... future shill bidder here?

He/she even mentions AIS in one of the long, nebulous, and generally boring diatribes usually characteristic of AIS-CEO.

Gregr... can you research.

Idiots like this ruin the forum.

That's my 2 pennies...

:confused:
 

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I already said I DO WORK FOR AIS and other companies and I have my own company

I'm their IT guy

CEO is Nic

I'm Dave

Now stop making claims you can't back up
 

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It is the same person I believe.

I think this thread is upto par mind you. I thought about a Pawn Domain Shop as well, I can see it working.

Mike
 

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M0NEY is the same idiot

The IP Address is: 165.247.66.175. The host name is: user-2iveglf.dialup.mindspring.com.

Hes using a mindspring dialup
 
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