PLEASE Email ICANN to change their minds

[ObtainADomain]

PLEASE Email ICANN to change their minds
Dear Everyone, Email: [email protected]

http://www.petitiononline.com/antiwls/petition.html

Please take a second out of your busy day and email ICANN and sign the anti-WLS petition to ask them to reverse their decision that approved SnapNames (Verisign partner) Domain Name Wait Listing Service (WLS), due out sometime next year.

Do you realize what it will mean to us Domain prospectors if Icann's decision to approve this company's proposed Domain Name Wait Listing Service (WLS) is not overturned?

It means no more NameWinner, DomainKing, DomainGrabber, and every other similar company.

You will simply have to pay your $69 if someone else hasn't already registered it. If they have, your out of luck because there will be no competition. SnapNames will be allowed to secure registrations for a domain............BEFORE THEY DROP!!! Thats right, you pay the $69 or you don't have a chance unless ONE person in the whole world got there first.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about please visit:

http://web.dotster.com/common/conte...onse_letter.php

For even more info check out:

http://web.dotster.com/common/content/wls/index.php

Keep in Mind, Icann has already approved this WLS to be adminstered by SnapNames.com which is partnered with Verisign (formarlly known as Network Solutions). Our only hope is a reversal or next year were all screwed.

There is also an anti-WLS petition you can sign:
http://www.petitiononline.com/antiwls/petition.html

PLEASE EMAIL: [email protected]

Thank You,
ObtainADomain

 

[DomainSage]

Snapnames is not owned by Verisign, they are simply partners.

 

[mole]

ICANN doesn't read their emails.

 

[MarkMitford]

Keep up the pressure, our WLS reconsideration request is still before ICANN and they do (very rarely) take account of public comments, keeping up the visibility should help as they can't hold off on the reconsideration request for ever.

 

[StockDoctor]

I posted this comment on another WLS thread, but since there are additional threads on this subject, I'll raise my questions here as well.

I can see where the WLS will raise costs on tier 2 and tier 3 names, but can anyone tell me why it wouldn't help me have a better chance on tier 1 (the best) names? I find that the likes of BuyDomains, Ultsearch etc. continually beat me on my most wanted names whether I have basically covered most other channels including Snaps, Namewinner, 1 click services and the other services offered by my respected fellow members of this forum. In that case, why would the WLS NOT be a good thing from my perspective.

One more question. I understand that as proposed, a WLS subscription would allow the transfer to a different name several times per year. Is that correct.

I've read all the PDF links, would anyone care to comment on the points above?

 

[INFORG]

Originally posted by stocdoctor

I can see where the WLS will raise costs on tier 2 and tier 3 names, but can anyone tell me why it wouldn't help me have a better chance on tier 1 (the best) names? I find that the likes of BuyDomains, Ultsearch etc. continually beat me on my most wanted names whether I have basically covered most other channels including Snaps, Namewinner, 1 click services and the other services offered by my respected fellow members of this forum. In that case, why would the WLS NOT be a good thing from my perspective.

Whether or not the decision will benefit you personally really doesn't speak to whether it is "right" or not ,does it? This is basically a free market issue with grave consequences. At least now, there is actual competition for the names and you get names based upon your talent/means for obtaining them. I don't blame Ultsearch for being better than I am. Nor do I want monopoly control over the names to try and rectify that.

You don't think that under a new system Ulltsearch isn't going to have more leverage at Verisign than you will based upon revenue? That seems naive. I imagine Ultsearch is ready to sweep the WLS lisitngs already.

If you are still going to have your best opportunity at Tier 2 and 3 names, now you are paying a huge premium for them.

So in effect, Ultsearch and the bigs are still going to get the names (in fact cheaper now) and you will be subsidizing them by paying 3 times what the 2nd and 3rd tier names are worth.

The WLS is wrong on so many levels it is laughable. It will destroy secondary market providers already in existence and ruin the business models of many Tier 2 and 3 related businesses. In fact, this forum will probably go away too - verisign will be the only opinion that counts anymore.

 

[StockDoctor]

Originally posted by 2gajgops


Whether or not the decision will benefit you personally really doesn't speak to whether it is "right" or not ,does it? This is basically a free market issue with grave consequences.

Listen I don't like Verislime anymore than any of you and can see right through their motives. They are almost as bad as Microsoft.

To answer your question above though, I disagree and say that if the decision does benefit me,(in 1 way) it benefits others like me, and what other way to determine whether a decision is right or wrong "in a free market."

Now whether it is right or wrong in many others ways, I'd have to say that it is clearly wrong and does as you say have "grave consequences."

As to whether Ultsearch or BuyDomains have the capital to cover all the tier 1 names, I would just add that now, their costs are at the minimum for reg fees, and if fees multiply on a per name basis to as high as 10 times their current costs, I would think they may have to curtail some of what they go after. While we currently pay $69, $120, or bid many times that at Namewinner, the likes of BuyDomains appears to only have the cost of their scripts and my guess of a $6.50 fee per name.

How is that fair now?

 

[mole]

Originally posted by stocdoctor
How is that fair now?

Who said life was fair?

 

[INFORG]

Originally posted by stocdoctor

To answer your question above though, I disagree and say that if the decision does benefit me,(in 1 way) it benefits others like me, and what other way to determine whether a decision is right or wrong "in a free market."

I won't digress into a lecture on what "free market" priniciples really are for sake of space, but I will address your quote above and point out the contradiction.

A free market does not guarantee your succes or make any claim that you will benefit out of proportion with your ability. A free market merely means that everyone has an equal ability to compete without institutional interference. A free market dictates that products/services have the price set by uninhibited competition nad market forces.

Your statement above basically says: "The answer that benefits the most people is the right one". I claim that that is patently false. A good analogy would be that of the government taking all the money in your bank account and dividing it among 100 different people. Certainly that benefits more people than just you having it. But, I think you would agree that would not be "right".

The idea of making decisions based upon benefit to the greatest number of people has been tried and it failed. It was called communism and socialism.

My posts aren't intended to flame, but rather to point out that there are greater issues at stake here rather than how many names you or I may get as a result of any decision. If one provider of names is sufficient, what about one global ISP, one hosting service, etc. etc. As history has shown us, competition is good for everyone and allows us to purchase the best products at a fair value.

For more information on free market principles, I would recommend:

http://www.free-market.net/
http://www.mises.org/

 

[TexasFilly]

Originally posted by ObtainADomain
PLEASE Email ICANN to change their minds
Dear Everyone, Email: [email protected]

Please take a second out of your busy day and email ICANN to ask them to reverse their decision that approved SnapNames (Verisign owned) Domain Name Wait Listing Service (WLS), due out sometime next year.

Do you realize what it will mean to us Domain prospectors if Icann's decision to approve this company's proposed Domain Name Wait Listing Service (WLS) is not overturned?

It means no more NameWinner, DomainKing, DomainGrabber, and every other similar company.

You will simply have to pay your $69 if someone else hasn't already registered it. If they have, your out of luck because there will be no competition. Verisign will be allowed to secure registrations for a domain............BEFORE THEY DROP!!! Thats right, you pay the $69 or you don't have a chance unless ONE person in the whole world got there first.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about please visit:

http://web.dotster.com/common/conte...onse_letter.php

For even more info check out:

http://web.dotster.com/common/content/wls/index.php

Keep in Mind, Icann has already approved this WLS to be adminstered by SnapNames.com which is owned by Verisign (formarlly known as Network Solutions). Our only hope is a reversal or next year were all screwed.


PLEASE EMAIL: [email protected]

Thank You,
ObtainADomain

yes, i do know 'what your talking about'.. and i have been "talking about this" for nearly a full year on various forum/communities..

Your right.. " It's not a good plan ".. I do not support it, and I never have.. I've talked till i'm 'blue in the face' about this critical issue.. for nearly a year..

I'll step down.. let you take over..

and I'll 'cheerlead' for you pal.

 

[PACKERGARE]

this is an issue the fcc and the federal trade commision. write your senator.

 

[octobus]

Originally posted by 2gajgops



The idea of making decisions based upon benefit to the greatest number of people has been tried and it failed. It was called communism and socialism.

There is a major difference between these two that should be remarked. Communism and facism are purely ideological and functions more like as religion, unlike socialism that is best described as left-oriented political agenda. The ruling party in Germany is socialist, France's second largest party is also red and additionally they've a strong communist movement.


The biggest contrast:

Socialism strives to equal wealth through government actions (usually with progressive taxation imposed on higher incomes)

Communist is usually a centrally controlled dictatorship without any noticeable democracy (China). Private ownership was banned there also not a long time ago.

 

[Whois-Search]

www.antiwls.org

 

[Drewbert]

>this is an issue the fcc and the federal trade commision. write your senator.

Bingo.

The ONLY people that can reign ICANN in is the Federal Government.

They won't do anything until they learn that doing nothing will cost them votes.

US citizens need to get vocal. Write letters. Get lots of signatures.