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Hi again Allan,
You sent me an email about this and I responded with great details.
Grrr... it's not the same computer so I cannot even copy/paste.
The domain emm.com is a premium domain.
As I explained it was valuated in September with the first release of our domain scoring tool. The metrics we had was not exact because this is not a dictionarry term...
The next update last November corrected that point, this why we can know for example valuate accronyms when it was not the case when started.
We work hard to try to improve our certification process, and all your comments and critics when they are constructive are welcome, and taken in consideration to improve our service.
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You sent me an email about this and I responded with great details.
Grrr... it's not the same computer so I cannot even copy/paste.
The domain emm.com is a premium domain.
As I explained it was valuated in September with the first release of our domain scoring tool. The metrics we had was not exact because this is not a dictionarry term...
The next update last November corrected that point, this why we can know for example valuate accronyms when it was not the case when started.
We work hard to try to improve our certification process, and all your comments and critics when they are constructive are welcome, and taken in consideration to improve our service.
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I think the service is much more geared towards keyword domains..although they DID immediately confirm the premium status of VOW.com, probably because it is a dictionary one word domain, there might be a few bugs to work out for random LLL.com's still..which I believe is being done now..
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hi, Francios:
I just got your email.
Thanks for your services and I look forward to your service's improvement.
It was just kind of funny to see some of my lesser domains got the better of the real premium one
I just got your email.
Thanks for your services and I look forward to your service's improvement.
It was just kind of funny to see some of my lesser domains got the better of the real premium one
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Focus,
We did a major update few days ago of our premium domain certification service. In fact the first since his launch.
I posted about it in NamePros and DNForum but in DNForum the thread was imediately deleted by a moderator because it was not in the good section I think.
We have recalculated the domain score of the 774,366 domains submitted at PremiumDomain.com and the Premium Domain certification updated.
Example:
http://www.premiumdomain.com/check/?domain=vow.com
This new release gives much weight to readability in the scoring and TLD values have been revised.
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We did a major update few days ago of our premium domain certification service. In fact the first since his launch.
I posted about it in NamePros and DNForum but in DNForum the thread was imediately deleted by a moderator because it was not in the good section I think.
We have recalculated the domain score of the 774,366 domains submitted at PremiumDomain.com and the Premium Domain certification updated.
Example:
http://www.premiumdomain.com/check/?domain=vow.com
This new release gives much weight to readability in the scoring and TLD values have been revised.
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Okay so my question is. Vow scored a 569. I have two single word .orgs that have scored a 654 and a 550. I could bet there is no chance in hell I could get the same amount of money for both names combined than what that domain alone could sell for. How accuate is all of this?
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I think you have to take into consideration the rarity factor and also more importantly the extension...I don't think the score necessarily means "more money" but is a collective scoring of many factors...francois is this correct?
I think vow.com should be scored much higher really but that's just me! (maybe an automatic extra 100-200 points for a LLL.com?)
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I think vow.com should be scored much higher really but that's just me! (maybe an automatic extra 100-200 points for a LLL.com?)
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According to their score guide it does.
Domains sold +1 million had an average score +800
Domains sold +100,000 had an average score +660
Domains sold +10,000 had an average score +620
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had a few names from my portfolio evaluated by premium domains and got the following results...
Requesting org 446
ServiceGod com 425
FootballUniform net 418
Requesting net 417
Not really sure what to come by that... I havent really read into the whole scoring system yet, but im assuming its out of 1,000?
Requesting org 446
ServiceGod com 425
FootballUniform net 418
Requesting net 417
Not really sure what to come by that... I havent really read into the whole scoring system yet, but im assuming its out of 1,000?
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Thanks to these metrics:
- Readability (name length, number syllables, link between words).
- Term frequency.
- Search popularity.
We get what we call a "name score".
The name score is equal to the "domain score" when the extension is dot com.
Now come the problem of extensions.
How to valuate the same domain name for each extension?
In DomainExtensions.com I posted in September the methodology.
Thanks to this methodology we have been valuating names until the last update.
Domain Score = Name Score * TLD Score
The problem we noticed after having valuated so many domains is that most of the CcTLDs had a so low TLD score that they can only have a decent scoring for the most popular generic names, which was absurd.
We have reviewed domains sold, done a bunch of test and when the extension is not a dot com we now use the formula:
Domain Score = Name Score * Log((TLD Score + 1) * 300) / Log(10000)
Which look likes to give results much more accurate.
With much more data, much more domain sales analyzed we will probably update again a little the formula to try to offer results of higher quality.
It's not an exact science, we simply try to modelize as better as we can.
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Regarding the specific question:
Vow scored a 569.
Your 2 org score at 654 and a 550.
This means if these 2 last names was dot com they will score still higher.
They are probably based in names having better metrics.
Now who will get a seller faster and who will get a better price I do not know.
The scoring is not about pricing is an easy way to have an estimated quality value based on these metrics.
One important factor we still not use in our valuation because we have no access tio the data (but I hope we may able to implement in our next release) is the commercial value.
For example today based in the above metrics these 2 names score:
Lyrics.com ... 881
AutoLoans.com ... 835
When the commercial value of auto loans is really higher than lyrics!
Hope that helps.
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- Readability (name length, number syllables, link between words).
- Term frequency.
- Search popularity.
We get what we call a "name score".
The name score is equal to the "domain score" when the extension is dot com.
Now come the problem of extensions.
How to valuate the same domain name for each extension?
In DomainExtensions.com I posted in September the methodology.
Thanks to this methodology we have been valuating names until the last update.
Domain Score = Name Score * TLD Score
The problem we noticed after having valuated so many domains is that most of the CcTLDs had a so low TLD score that they can only have a decent scoring for the most popular generic names, which was absurd.
We have reviewed domains sold, done a bunch of test and when the extension is not a dot com we now use the formula:
Domain Score = Name Score * Log((TLD Score + 1) * 300) / Log(10000)
Which look likes to give results much more accurate.
With much more data, much more domain sales analyzed we will probably update again a little the formula to try to offer results of higher quality.
It's not an exact science, we simply try to modelize as better as we can.
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Regarding the specific question:
Vow scored a 569.
Your 2 org score at 654 and a 550.
This means if these 2 last names was dot com they will score still higher.
They are probably based in names having better metrics.
Now who will get a seller faster and who will get a better price I do not know.
The scoring is not about pricing is an easy way to have an estimated quality value based on these metrics.
One important factor we still not use in our valuation because we have no access tio the data (but I hope we may able to implement in our next release) is the commercial value.
For example today based in the above metrics these 2 names score:
Lyrics.com ... 881
AutoLoans.com ... 835
When the commercial value of auto loans is really higher than lyrics!
Hope that helps.
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Okay so now I have one more question regarding cctlds. You being french should understand this.
I did a quick check on your automatic domain score. I put in "neuf.be" and "finger.be" I own "neuf.be" I don't own "finger.be"
But to my surprise finger.be ranked higher than neuf.be. Neuf meaning "new" and "nine" in french and it fits the extension perfect; where as finger does not nor does it have the commercial value as does Neuf. Do you see getting this corrected anytime soon?
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Sarcle,
We only valuate ENGLISH name as stated in the domain scoring tool and in the premium domain service.
Why?
- First because to can decompose a domain name in terms we need a dictionary, here we are using an english dictionary.
- Second, when we check for term frequency we search the frequency on english pages only.
Now what can happen?
When we try all the possible solutions to decompose a domain in terms the first we try is check if it's a single word.
To do it we check our dictionary.
If not present then we calculate the frequency of the term itself.
After we continue slicing each possibility of phrases.
At the end we select the word or phrase having the highest frequency.
When it's a single word then we add it to the dictionary for next analysis.
This is how we can now consider acronyms, new words that was not present in the dictionary.
This is how neuf have been found.
But neuf is not an english word and we checked the frequency in english pages, so the scoring is not really accurate.
Now you better understand.
Probably later we will offer the same service in other languages, french, spanish, italian, german....
But today it makes more sense we continue working hard in english domains to improve the scoring before can pretend extend the service to other languages.
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We only valuate ENGLISH name as stated in the domain scoring tool and in the premium domain service.
Why?
- First because to can decompose a domain name in terms we need a dictionary, here we are using an english dictionary.
- Second, when we check for term frequency we search the frequency on english pages only.
Now what can happen?
When we try all the possible solutions to decompose a domain in terms the first we try is check if it's a single word.
To do it we check our dictionary.
If not present then we calculate the frequency of the term itself.
After we continue slicing each possibility of phrases.
At the end we select the word or phrase having the highest frequency.
When it's a single word then we add it to the dictionary for next analysis.
This is how we can now consider acronyms, new words that was not present in the dictionary.
This is how neuf have been found.
But neuf is not an english word and we checked the frequency in english pages, so the scoring is not really accurate.
Now you better understand.
Probably later we will offer the same service in other languages, french, spanish, italian, german....
But today it makes more sense we continue working hard in english domains to improve the scoring before can pretend extend the service to other languages.
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