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Stop PARKING your DOMAIN, change your OBJECTIVE.

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Like other business Batman - The Big Name (Insiders) take all the profits because they make the market. They decide witch tlc is going up expotentialy and witch are not. It's really a rought game.
 

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I joined this industry in 2000, had great knowledge of the internet since 1994.

As a result you decided to join (727 posts so far !) this forum 3 months ago to sell domains like the ones mentioned here :


Sorry batman, too tempting to resist :smilewinkgrin:
 

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As a result you decided to join (727 posts so far !) this forum 3 months ago to sell domains like the ones mentioned here :
Sorry batman, too tempting to resist :smilewinkgrin:

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So why don't you show me your oldest domain?
 

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I'm trying something new with recently acquired domains. Mini sites (3-10 pages MAX, most 3-5).

Pages with just enough content to get the search engines looking and type-ins returning. Some news articles, reviews, and so on. Well placed adsense ads, Amazon.com links, affiliate programs.

I'm right now doing this with my first trial domain to see if I do have what it takes to try this out. The domain cost me either $5 or $10 here so the loss is minimal but I'm hoping to make that back in a few months and possibly sell the site in 6 months to a year for a profit. I'll see how it goes.

Parking is great for lazy people (like me) but self parking tends to pay out more per click.
 

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I joined this industry in 2000, had great knowledge of the internet since 1994. I'm a victim of war, refugee camps, etc. Everyone I knew around me was poor. Convincing people to invest $500 in the .com industry in 94, was hard. Specially people who don't have $10 in their pocket. I tried to convince people with money up to 1999. No one wanted to give me a chance. By 2000 the Domain registration renewal fee was very low.

I started with $36 dollar's. 4 domains

Present day I own 200 long term domains. 80+ short term domains.
My highest domain sale: $5000 US - my cost $24.99
My lowest domain sale: $1 - my loss $5.85-$15

I learned in 2004, domain parking is the fastest and best way to generate money from your undeveloped domains.

NOTE to NEW DOMAINERS: Buying Incoming Traffic for your domains will get you banned and account terminated for life. I learned the hard way and purchased TRAFFIC from other Domainer's who suggested it was the best way to make money and safe.

It's 2008 now, and I'm still searching for a place to PARK. I have made $0.01 from one site, and $20 from another site for the same domain used for parking. Unfortunately, I feel cheated by all of them.

I read a Blog recently, which suggested developing is the best method and most profitable. I agree, but also remind the blogger and other's. The cost is high. I'm not going to develop word press/blog/forum's……. which seems to be the newest and cheapest way to create sites using AdSense.

I believe the best thing for Domainer's in 2008 is to Group with one Another. Example, ""Toronto Domainers"" and start developing domains.

Be the Face of Domainer's in your Country/State/City

Recently, Parking Site's don't even respond back to emails!!!! I can name 4.

I have no choice but to go back to GoDaddy CashParking for now, since I paid for it.

I need a Miracle in the up-coming auctions, SNAPNAMES show me the MONEY!

lol, you don't seem to know much for someone that thinks he knows everything aye.

I regged AUDIOSTREAMERS.COM in 2000. What was one that you regged?
 

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Batman..to tell you the truth I'm kinda ashamed that you've been in this since 2000 and your highest sale was only $5,000. You seem like you know a lot on the subject and you post more than anybody else on the forum.

My opinion on parking is, obviously, develop. Into what? Wordpress. It sounds too overused, but, if you know how to develop it properly, with good SEO, your domain will turn into an unlimited money machine - it might not be immediate, but it will stay on for a long time. Having 10 posts/pages, is often enough to make back your investment 1000% within weeks or months, even on the crappiest hand regged domains...Check out my thread on WordPress Development:
 

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Keep me updated, like to know how it works out for you. :eek:k:

Will do.

I also have to agree, even though WordPress seems over used and cliché, it is the simplest way to get a site up and hits in the domain. As long as your hosting company offers databases (which I think most do), you are all set.

Set it up, you pot, maybe make a good blog entry 3-5 times a week. Get some friends in to blog and post comments, maybe 1-2 times a week each. In no time you'll have a good blog up and running and traffic will be coming (BTW - "in no time" I mean 3-6 months minimum).

Learn search engine optimization, plant the keywords in the right places that search engines like. My test I have a few paragraphs full of keywords (we help you with XYZ, YZX, YZA, etc..). I'll need to give it time but the sitemap is planted and I have a few people in the waiting to write a few paragraphs for the site.

Even the worst domain proavghuprrfgrtgirdf.com can be worth thousands if developed properly.
 

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What you are not aware of! Is that I could Cash Out today and walk away with a minimum $65K+ . There is nothing you should be ashamed about. I'm a winner in any investment startup. I have turned $36 American Dollars into a profit. :eek:

Yes, but you have to agree, even from such a tiny investment, 65k in 7 years isn't "enough". With enough effort and development, those domains could be worth 10x value within a year.

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The point of this thread is not what I make or what you have made from undeveloped domains. It's the lack of tools that are missing in our Domain Industry for Domainer's. There is so much talk about sales here and sales there! But were is all the OLD SCHOOL Domainer's !!?? Simple, they sit back and tell us we don't have a chance, and our domains are worth $0-1000. This is a method they use against new domainer's. Insted, I would suggest they invest their focus on building a foundation that would make us all happy in the sense of developing.

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Absolutely 100% frigging agree with you. (this is how you should of started this thread btw). This puts the entire sad irony of modern day domaining in 1 short paragraph. I really thought about this a couple of days ago - getting DNF members together to start own parking company, so everybody can profit, because in the end, it all comes down to the problem of monetization. Potentially good domains are pretty much worthless, because of lack of good parking/monetization techniques. As I said, the only answer left as of right now is developing - and I recommend WordPress, because of good SEO.
 

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Originally Posted by BATMAN
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The point of this thread is not what I make or what you have made from undeveloped domains. It's the lack of tools that are missing in our Domain Industry for Domainer's. There is so much talk about sales here and sales there! But were is all the OLD SCHOOL Domainer's !!?? Simple, they sit back and tell us we don't have a chance, and our domains are worth $0-1000. This is a method they use against new domainer's. Insted, I would suggest they invest their focus on building a foundation that would make us all happy in the sense of developing.



you can't blame other domainers for your lack of success

some domainers pool together, some network, some work alone

there must be plenty of tools, because there are plenty of successful domainers...
but everyone doesn't necessarily use "tools", some use common sense, read newspapers, attend trade show etc.. they do what they do and come-up with names that sell or produce revenue.

everybody finds their own niche'

it's all about your motivation and willingness to put in work!
 

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Name me one these domainer's who starte with no money? I would like to learn!

The guy my wife works for started with less than $100. He recently refused an offer of $10,000,000 for one of his websites that is for sale and recently was a major player in a team of investors who bought a domain for over $300,000 late last year. Too bad he keeps his mouth shut on how he did it.

It is possible to go from rags to riches, but it takes a hell of a lot of work. I am NOT rich in any way. I barely make it month to month to cover my expenses. I buy domains with the little I can save here and there. Hell, I live in the ghetto (I'm white, BTW). I live in a crappy town home in a crappy neighborhood (yes, it could be worse). I drive a $10,000 Kia (I don't think it's possible to get anything new for less). Yes, at times I've gone a little too far with domains, but that is what credit cards are for.

I've taken a step back in my strategy. I am no longer expecting to be able to resell domains months down the road for more than what I paid for them, so I'm buying cheap domains - ~$(reg fee) and throwing up mini sites. Maybe I'll spend more if it is in my niche and I can really develop it for more.

As for the tools, most drop catchers will send you daily lists, some will include your keywords. Google has reverse-search tools (keywords) to help you maximize SEO in your site. Both of these are free. Project WhoIs and SEO Quake are nice (free) plugins for FireFox.

Most of the domaining and SEO tools out there are worthless, they give you information that is 100% free, if you know where to look (there's the trick). They just provide you with a great tool, great UI, and very fast results for less than 1% of the work. You're paying for the tool (much like calling 411 for a phone number, yes you can get it for free, but you're paying them for the convenience of doing all the work for you).
 

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There is 30,000+ members on DNForum
If 100 Domainer's each invest $500 into a FUND it = $50K
As a Group, we can choose who has the best domain for development.
The group will vote, the end result is. 50K + Domain = Money

The group I reffer too, is Domainer's who are NOT RICH. These Rich Domainer's are interested to make money for them selfs and Good For them!

But what about the rest of us?

The formula above for 50K budget is simple theory we can use to move forward.

The First Group for Domainer's by Domainer's.

We can use the Fund to purchase domain's or develop domains. If we have the opportunity to cash in on a reseller price tag, why not. Or 50K turns into 100K.
cough cough, it's already been done and in process for awhile now...
 
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