For Sale strange whois output for ORG

[tonyk2000]

I wonder what unlisted registrar could create such a "restricted" domain and why... This is current record for previously dropped domain
?


Domain ID94723158-LROR
Domain Name:4FREEXXXPICS.ORG
Created On:02-Mar-2003 01:27:03 UTC
Last Updated On:02-Mar-2003 01:27:06 UTC
Expiration Date:02-Mar-2005 01:27:03 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R1238-LROR
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Status:INACTIVE
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:1238-C
Registrant Name:CONTACT NOT AUTHORITATIVE
Registrant Street1:Whois Server:no referral
Registrant Street2:Referral URL:No referral
Registrant City:N/A
Registrant Postal Code:N/A
Registrant Country:CA
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:1238-C
Admin Name:CONTACT NOT AUTHORITATIVE
Admin Street1:Whois Server:no referral
Admin Street2:Referral URL:No referral
Admin City:N/A
Admin Postal Code:N/A
Admin Country:CA
Admin Email:[email protected]
Billing ID:1238-C
Billing Name:CONTACT NOT AUTHORITATIVE
Billing Street1:Whois Server:no referral
Billing Street2:Referral URL:No referral
Billing City:N/A
Billing Postal Code:N/A
Billing Country:CA
Billing Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:1238-C
Tech Name:CONTACT NOT AUTHORITATIVE
Tech Street1:Whois Server:no referral
Tech Street2:Referral URL:No referral
Tech City:N/A
Tech Postal Code:N/A
Tech Country:CA
Tech Email:[email protected]

 

[Frontline]

I am not sure but I have only seen that info on adult related domain names for .orgs. I am thinking that it is the new registar attempting to clean up .orgs as they said they were going to and not allowing them to be renewed. Although I could be completely wrong

 

[dotNetKing]

Is this perhaps for all newly registered .orgs - just indicating that there can be no transfer, deletion etc for 60 days?

I would quite like to know as this appears on at least some of my newly registered .orgs

 

[Beachie]

This is almost the standard output from PIR for all ORG's at the moment..

Your domain appears to be missing the referring whois server, so presumably it's has just been registered.. Here's what you generally see:

Domain ID: D687878-LROR
Domain Name:XXXXXX.ORG
Created On:28-Oct-1996 05:00:00 UTC
Last Updated On:12-Dec-2002 23:42:29 UTC
Expiration Date:27-Oct-2004 04:00:00 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R34-LROR
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:34-C
Registrant Name:CONTACT NOT AUTHORITATIVE
Registrant Street1:Whois Server:whois.dotster.com

Your best bet, normally, is to query the whois server directly..

Chris

 

[tonyk2000]

Whois Server:no referral is the most strange thing in this output.
So it is not possible to determine sponsoring registrar. All accredited registrars must actually have whois servers submitted during registrar accreditation process. So this domain name - with no whois server for sponsoring registrar - might be created by PIR itself? No sponsoring registrar exist? R1238-LROR - 1238 looks like too large number....

 

[mole]

http://www.betterwhois.com

 

[tonyk2000]

Search for this mystical registrar at PIR website:

You searched for:
"registrar id R1238-LROR"

NOTICE: Access to .ORG WHOIS information is provided to assist persons in determining the contents of a domain name registration record in the PIR registry database. The data in this record is provided by Public Interest Registry for informational purposes only, and PIR does not guarantee its accuracy. This service is intended only for query-based access. You agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to: (a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail, telephone, or facsimile of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that send queries or data to the systems of Registry Operator or any ICANN-Accredited Registrar, except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations. All rights reserved. PIR reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy.


Registrar ID: R1238-LROR
Street1: Pending Delete
City: N/A
Postal Code: N/A
Country: US
Email: [email protected]
Created On: 27-Feb-2003 19:23:23 UTC
Last Updated On: 27-Feb-2003 20:11:07 UTC
Status: OK


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I guess PIR assigns that so-called "registrar" to deleted domains.
I wonder how long to expect "deletion cycle". A lot of domains has
R1238-LROR "registrar" and those domains are "renewed" for two years.

 

[Whois-Search]

"Currently PIR is not responsible for contact information relating to
.ORG doamins. For that type of information you need to follow the whois
link located under the Stree1 Address for each of the contacts. In your
example below, the authoritative contact information can be found at
whois.melbourneit.com.

Until .ORG moves over to a thick registry from a thin registry, which is
planned to happen sometime this year, this is the only way to find
authoritative contact information for .ORG domains."


Sincerely,

Michael Runcieman
Technical Support Analyst
Public Interest Registry


So basically you have to do the whois at the register where the domain is registered.

 

[tonyk2000]

No, now I understood this is new output for deleted domains which are not available for registration yet. View carefully at "registrar id R1238-LROR"
This is not real registrar, but a place where they link deleted domains at PIR

 

[tonyk2000]

If the domain is registered - YES, it is necessary to look at whois of registrar
If the domain is deleted, like that one in the beginning of the thread, it will finally arrive to "registrar id R1238-LROR" which is not real registrar, but PIR-collected deleted domains.
I can also undertand why does those domains have 2 years period. First year appeared when PIR instantly added a year to expired domain, second year was added when PIR performed so-called transfer from original registrar to their own "registrar R1238-LROR"