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Well first off I will make this statement, well statements..........

We are sitting on a gold mine but continue in our quest to be
“CANADA'S BEST KEPT SECRET”

Canada is embracing the .CA and has no idea to get on board

“SPECULATOR to SPECULATOR” does not work

We run the risk of upstaging Lawyers, Politicians and Hookers as the next sleazebag opportunists in the minds of the Canadian Public and Media


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It would be nice for some constructive comments on the above statements and some serious dialogue on
“WHAT ARE WE PLANNING TO DO ABOUT IT”

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Well first off I will make this statement, well statements..........

We are sitting on a gold mine but continue in our quest to be
“CANADA'S BEST KEPT SECRET”

Canada is embracing the .CA and has no idea to get on board

“SPECULATOR to SPECULATOR” does not work

We run the risk of upstaging Lawyers, Politicians and Hookers as the next sleazebag opportunists in the minds of the Canadian Public and Media


NOTE:

It would be nice for some constructive comments on the above statements and some serious dialogue on
“WHAT ARE WE PLANNING TO DO ABOUT IT”

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Couldn't agree with you more.

And what are we going to do about it???


NOTHING!!!! :eek:

Forgive me for saying so but an industry in this phase attracts a lot of lone wolf, mlm refugees, unemployed and can't find a job, misfits, opportunists, and yes even some actual entreprenurial types.

None of whom are usually good at "making nice" with each other.

And that stands in the way of any cohesive action moving forward.
 

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DropWizard, please do expand on your comments. I respect your opinion. Though, what stage do you think we are in? Infant? Not sure myself. And what IS so bad about this stage?

In your opinion, there is no cohesive action moving forward? So how do you see this industry 1 year, 3 years, and 5-10 years from now?

Thanks :)
 

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Just wondering if I could get some clarity to your statements?

We are sitting on a gold mine but continue in our quest to be
“CANADA'S BEST KEPT SECRET”

Can you please elaborate on this; insofar as:

Who is 'we'? Do you mean .CA domainers?
From your perspective, what does 'our quest to be "C'sBKS"' mean in social and economic terms?
What kind of motives do you believe would be driving such a 'quest'? ...and for What outcome(s)/consequence(s)?
[Rhetorically saying: Who tells everyone where the location of their gold mine is?]

Canada is embracing the .CA and has no idea to get on board

'Canada' who? Joe & Jane Canuck surfing the .CA name space?
'Get on board' of what? To start domaining themselves? To buy domains for end user developmental purposes?

“SPECULATOR to SPECULATOR” does not work

'"S2S" does not work' in what sense?
What do you think would work, and for who?

We run the risk of upstaging Lawyers, Politicians and Hookers as the next sleazebag opportunists in the minds of the Canadian Public and Media

I don't get that sense myself, from the Canadian Public nor Media. Do you have any media/canadian blog links you've come across saying such?
How would 'we run the risk of upstaging L,P & H as the next sleazebag opportunists'? Have you seen any indicators of this?

Cheers for the clarification!

[PS: Interesting Thread]
 

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Honestly, if people haven't gotten into domaining yet for .com's, they aren't going to get in for .ca's in any big way soon.

It boggles me why more people aren't into it, everyone's on the internet, everyone uses websites, people must here about domain sales from time to time. You need a credit card and an internet connection, and a little drive, that's it. It can be done evenings and weekends part-time, a few hours a week even. It's a mystery - other than lots of people shy away from tech stuff, they want to use websites, they don't want to know how it all works because they think it's beyond them - "Call the tech guy!". But to buy a domain name and park it, or use an easy site builder to build a webpage, is as easy as using MS Word or Excel.

IMO it will be a gradual progression over time of more people turning to domaining (and .ca's) for the same reasons most of us are here.

The good thing for us who are here now, is that over the next few years there will be more people investing into .ca domains and less quality available. There will be more private and public companies using domains, including .ca's, the likes of Marchex, Communicate, iReit, Tucows, Name Administration, and so on. The big .com portfolio holders are still just in the early stages of figuring out how to monetize their best domains beyond PPC.

Only three years ago (2005), you could fresh reg as many LLL.ca as you wanted. Same with NNN.ca. An x,xxx or xx,xxx reported .ca sale was not a common occurrence. What will be the state of the market in 2011 if the internet still runs the way it does now?

The .ca market? It will take care of itself with more speculators, investers, individuals, businesses, and end-users slowly getting tuned in to the power of a good domain. Domainers will get better at monetizing their .ca domains and have less reason to sell. Those who don't figure out how to do this will get bought out by those who do. My opinion is to look at what's happening in .com, and think of .ca as being a few years behind their trends. Right now the trend in .com is consolidation and developping. In general, we are behind but will benefit by watching what they do.

As for public perception, I think the worst perception which is not really defensible is TM domains - that never shows domaining in a positive light. Parking however is a legitimate business endeavour, if people don't like it that's their problem, sad to say. Some people get offended when they read about someone parking domains and making $2,000 a day, but they probably get offended by anyone making big $$$ because it isn't them. Most mainstream articles I've read lately are showing domaining in a positive light and being quite fair, as opposed to not long ago when the press equated parking with squatting. It's important for the public to understand there is a distinction between the two.
 
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NostraDomainus

I have replied to your questions, But I would consider you read into the statements further and make your own assumptions on the intent, they are generic statements used to incite debate and hopefully action, because frankly I am tired of being on my SoapBox.

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We are sitting on a gold mine but continue in our quest to be
“CANADA'S BEST KEPT SECRET”

I would consider this a "Gold Mine" because of the potential to BuyLow - SellHigh, so a number of domainer's gathered thier portfolio's early and therefore have the potential for a big PayOff
The general Canadian Public has no conception of the CA domain Aftermarket and thier ability to whois a name and make an offer, Our inabillity/inactivity to reach the general public is what makes it a secret
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Canada is embracing the .CA and has no idea to get on board

The CA is popular in print/online publications but ther exists no primer to jump in, the CIRA process is intimitating at best,
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“SPECULATOR to SPECULATOR” does not work

Why BuyLow - SellLow the ultimate goal here is to reach the EndUser
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We run the risk of upstaging Lawyers, Politicians and Hookers as the next sleazebag opportunists in the minds of the Canadian Public and Media

It is simple human nature to try to get the most $$ for your name, this can be seen by the public as gouging because in thier mind they think the name was purchased for $15 so how come you want $xxx
The Media houses would rather change the name of thier promotion to make sure they secure the appropiate CA name rather then negotiate with a speculator asking for an unrealistic sum, Yes I have seen this happen first hand!

Summary:
All of the above statements are the "CA Market as I see it" you do not have to agree that there is a promotion and possible image problem with the CA aftermarket
My statement to you is this
LEAD - FOLLOW - OR GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY

~ian
 
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