*.tv vs. *tv.com

[dtobias]

This one might get different results, given that the use of .tv for television-related sites isn't exactly truly logical if they're not located in Tuvalu!

 

[yesonline]

Originally posted by dtobias
This one might get different results, given that the use of .tv for television-related sites isn't exactly truly logical if they're not located in Tuvalu!

To me, and most of people I think, .tv means .television, that's it. Very few people do recognize .tv refers .tuvalu. Almost the people I have asked to did not even know what is or where is Tuvalu, but they do believe that something.tv refers a streaming media website.
And while Tuvalu sinks under the water someday, ICANN shall take .tv back and resign it to television domain.

 

for a tv show i think .tv makes sense, for any other non tv or streaming video type site i would say no.

 

[yesonline]

Originally posted by safesys
for a tv show i think .tv makes sense, for any other non tv or streaming video type site i would say no.

Of course I mean those websites which are related to streaming media contents, not all the websites fit to use .tv.
However, some kind of websites could fit both , such as autoracing.com and sautoracing.tv:razz:

 

[Mik]

Not all logically and technically correct decisions are good marketing decisions and vice versa.

I feel that for tv shows .tv is fine if they can't get the proper .com because they left it too late or didn't think ahead.
eg of .tv for shows
www.degrassi.tv - I was flippin channels and saw this one
www.rpmlive.tv - I'm guessing either .au was taken or they wanted to keep it short.

Besides most people don't know about cctld and gtld and which means what, so if you tell em .tv is for tuvalu watch them come back and ask "well which country is .biz for?"

 

[yesonline]

Besides most people don't know about cctld and gtld and which means what, so if you tell em .tv is for tuvalu watch them come back and ask "well which country is .biz for?" [/B]

:laugh: :laugh:

 

[dtobias]

Well, .bz is for Belize... is that close enough?

 

[davidthornton]

Originally posted by safesys
for a tv show i think .tv makes sense, for any other non tv or streaming video type site i would say no.

Yes I agree with this. I think you and I have discussed this at length before. IIRC (If I remember correctly), .tm (the country of Turkmenistan) was the first ccTLD that was promoted for a specific market. Netnames UK ran it on behalf of the Turkmenistan government.

To most people .TM means trademark, not Turkmenistan. I registered a few .tm domains back in ~January 1998, like many people. Unfortunately, the Turkmenistan govenment took offence to the numerous registrations that contovened Islam and suspended the registrar sometime after. My .tm domains have been active since then and I have never had to pay a renewal. I've also found it easy to have DNS changes made, since the ccTLD root is maintained by someone located not too far away from me.

I didn't think much of .to or .nu, although .cd wasn't bad. I wanted music.cd but it was several hundred dollars when .cd was announced, so I didn't waste the money.

We discussed the pros and cons of 'registered.tm' in comparison to 'registeredtm.com'. I missed the former by days.

I think .tv has a specific application in the domain name market, for .tv programmes and companies but probably isn't relevant for streaming media. A bit like .net is nothing to do with Microsoft .NET but I am sure many people will try to link the two.

 

[FineE]

The real value of .tv domains will come from products or services advertised on television. When one considers the billions spent on TV advertising the value of .tv domains is there.

Why was drugstore.tv registered for $500,000 a year? It only make sense if you plan to brand drugstore.tv on television where $500.000 a year is a drop in the bucket.

But it will take time for the big $ to figure this out just wait

 

[yesonline]

Why was drugstore.tv registered for $500,000 a year? It only make sense if you plan to brand drugstore.tv on television where $500.000 a year is a drop in the bucket.

I really doubt the sale of drugstore.tv for $500,000 was a fake deal? Who will spend half a million per year and just let it parking on the .tv default page for doing nothing? It means that you just pay almost 2,000 dollars for nothing each day! And I don't think drugstore with .tv is a good domain policy.

 

Originally posted by yesonline


I really doubt the sale of drugstore.tv for $500,000 was a fake deal? Who will spend half a million per year and just let it parking on the .tv default page for doing nothing? It means that you just pay almost 2,000 dollars for nothing each day! And I don't think drugstore with .tv is a good domain policy.

Exactly. The drugstore.tv "sale" was over a year ago, and the name still resolves to a dottv holding page. Doing absolutely nothing with it--not even a corporate splash-page!--is very dubious.

Actually, I'm surprised the value of ".tv" is still being debated...it is my sense that the domain community wrote this extension off months ago as another failed attempt by registrars to cash in on the spectacular growth of the domain name industry.

Like all the other "niche" domains, .tv has proven to not be needed...there is simply no need for it, and thus no market. No one is going to make more money by promoting their online corporate identity with a ".tv" instead of a ".com."

Furthermore, the near-extortionist pricing model by the ".tv" corporation almost guaranteed that domain speculators would abandon it as soon as they got the first whiff of failure.

I believe that we will continue to experience real and profitable domain name usage only in the three original public extensions, and in the cc's of large countries.

Miles

 

[AMERICAR]

Tuvalu is sinking ... in the Pacific Ocean ...

Global warming ... it's a coral reef ..

:evil:

 

[FineE]

Actually it is not uncommon to see an expensive domain just parked doing nothing for months.

Loans.com was a "lame link" for months after the sale, then it was followed a simple coming soon page and finally the developed site.

Large organizations do not move fast especially on the web. But the fact remains that the .tv registrations are nothing to sneeze at. Take for example casino.tv $250,000 a year. Is this really cheaper than say $2,500,000 with an annual fee of $8.75 for a .com? The fact remains deep pockets are paying big money for .tv domains.

As for speculators .tv is very tricky. The trick is to find .tv names that 1) .tv did not price right and 2) are already not taken

 

Originally posted by FineE
The fact remains deep pockets are paying big money for .tv domains.

Who?

And when? And how much?

Miles

 

[AMERICAR]

How much money does Tuvalu .. get from these registration costs.

Enough to relocate ? or buy a very big ship ?


h?h ...

 

[davidthornton]

Originally posted by AMERICAR
How much money does Tuvalu .. get from these registration costs.

Enough to relocate ? or buy a very big ship ?


h?h ...

I thought they got a one off payment from the company that originally set it all up.

 

Originally posted by davidthornton


I thought they got a one off payment from the company that originally set it all up.

"Idealab-incubated DotTV has agreed to pay Tuvalu up to $50 million over 12 years, and not less than $1 million per quarter, for the right to register .tv Internet addresses."

http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/05/08/tuvalu.domain.idg/

Miles

 

[davidthornton]

Originally posted by Namethink


"Idealab-incubated DotTV has agreed to pay Tuvalu up to $50 million over 12 years, and not less than $1 million per quarter, for the right to register .tv Internet addresses."

http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/05/08/tuvalu.domain.idg/

Miles

Is that still valid now that Verisign run .tv - seems a lot of money for a small ccTLD. I'm still waiting to see some serious users of .tv - BIG and mainstream.

 

[Omni]

David nice avatar you have there (if no one had mentioned it)

 

[wwww]

Originally posted by davidthornton


Is that still valid now that Verisign run .tv - seems a lot of money for a small ccTLD. I'm still waiting to see some serious users of .tv - BIG and mainstream.

www.sex.tv should be up on 1 october.


Generally I think that .tv is mostly used by tv stations, that's about the only usage which makes really sense (unless you live in tuvalu). Anyway, here in Switzerland and Germany, the .tv extension gets rather common for certain tv-shows, such as:
www.konsum.tv
www.elton.tv
www.headnut.tv