closed VINO dot NET

[Biggs101]

Let me know what you think.
Vino = Wine in Spain, Italy, Russia, Bulgaria, Latvia, and several other countries.

 

[angel69]

You've got a good one here, like you say it means vino in Spanish, Italian and other languages. I'd try to get $2,500....(it's a .net) An O-C/O type with BIN would be suitable here. If you can't get that then try $1,500 and even $1,000 but make sure you send it to auction (set it at $1,000 if you have to, but as a min bid to "push to auction" or use that amount as reserve) And wait about a month before you lower it, these domains can go high with the right attention brought to them, and usually only an auction can do that properly

 

[sunja]

Let me know what you think.
Vino = Wine in Spain, Italy, Russia, Bulgaria, Latvia, and several other countries.

I can see this being quite desirable. In the UK, Vino is pretty common slang for wine. I can imagine a wine ecommerce site using vino.net no problem. But I couldn't put a price on it as I don't really keep up with domain news.

lovevino.com sold in 2011 for $2,588 (dnsaleprice.com)

I would put this around that value, I guess. It's a better name but a worse tld. I wouldn't be surprised to see it fetching more though, it's a good name imho.

 

[Theo]

Vino is Latin for wine, from the Greek "oinos" (eenos). Famous example: In vino veritas - in wine, there is truth.

Great domain & TLD, the .com is for sale also. Probably $4k - $12k at some premium auction like Sedo or NameJet.

 

[Focus]

5-10k good name

 

[Gerry]

Like the name - love the product.

 

[Argie]

8K aprox. nice name. Did you bought it recently or it´s been in your portfolio for a while?

 

[ImageAuthors]

I've sold Spanish .NETs of less quality for more than $2.5k. So in your case I'd aim higher -- toward $15k, although who knows? Most domainers stick to English, which hurts the liquidity of non-English domains. The market is very unpredictable right now with non-English .NETs. I've watched some of my own premium Spanish .NETs go through auctions with only 1 bid of $100 (in one case) and only 1 bid of $500 (in another). Since yours is also an LLLL .NET, you'll probably see a lot more liquidity, though, since domainers like LLLL in general.

If you ever get close to selling VINO.net, PM me. At the very least, I'd like to watch the outcome.

 

[RTM.net]

Love it!

$5K if desperate, but at least $10-20K even to a reseller or broker building a client site.

 

[WhoDatDog]

At first glance, it seems like a good name. However, my guess is that you have had the name for a number of years, and in your mind, you value it at a certain amount. Of course, you haven't received a nice offer yet by way of an unsolicited email from a prospective buyer, so you want to be "sure" that this name has the value that you assign it in your head.

For it to be worth a nice sum, you have to imagine that someone would be willing to build a business around it. So far, out of the thousands and thousands of wine related businesses that have been started, not a one of them felt that they "had" to have this name. They seem to be able to do without it. The name Vino.net gets zero traffic. There is actually a site at SimplyVeno.net, so it is pretty telling that people feel that they can brand their business around a name like that. People just don't need Vino.net.

Vino.com isn't even part of a business. It is a sales page. I'm sure they feel that someone will come along and NEED that name. So far, they are wrong on that. I can only imagine how much the asking price is on that. For someone to build a big business around Vino.net, they would probably be able to figure out that they would be doing the Vino.com owner a huge favor, and that is the case every time someone tries to build a site on a .net. If someone is going big, then they would go for Vino.com, and then, after being told the absurd asking price for Vino.com, they would then go for another dotcom.

The ones on the first page of Google are VinoWineRoom.com, Amore-Vino.com, and VinoAndFriends.com, DrVino.com, and Vino100.com. So, it seems like people are doing fine without it. Generally, when people throw around appraisals in the thousands, you would expect some PM's from people looking to scoop up the name. That is, if the name was really worth that.

What is the name worth? Is it possible that someone could contact you and be willing to pay you 10K for the name? Stranger things have happened. If they are starting a business, that is 10K less that they have, or put another way, another 10K in the hole before they even open up the first day. Are the odds 50 percent that you will get 10K for it? I would say the odds are lower than that. What could you get if you put it in a thread here, with some of the most knowledgeable domainers in the world having looked at it? Will people offer cash right now for just 50 percent of their appraisal, or are these appraisals just a chance to talk about things that could possibly happen?

The question for names like these is pretty simple. The question should be: "What are the chances that I can sell this name for multiples more than the leading domain experts in the world would be willing to pay right now?" That's what it comes down to. Whatever your highest offer here is....legit offer....not someone saying that they "would" buy it if they were looking for something similar. That is your starting point. Add 25 percent or so and that is what it is worth. In the real world, things just aren't worth multiples of what the leading experts will pay for them. The name of the domain game is to sell things for more than they are worth. Vino.net is only worth a little more than what someone would pay for it right now on this forum, even if there is a small chance that you could sell it for multiples to someone else. That is how most assets are valued. Assets are not valued at prices that can only be achieved if the stars align.

Vino.net is a name that is better than 99 percent of the names in the appraisal thread. But there is a reason that you need reassurances on this name. It does not bring the business owner as big of a competitive advantage as you might want to think, and that has to be the only possible reason someone would pay good money for it.

If Vino.net and $1,500 in cash was sitting right in front of me, and I could choose one of them. I would choose the cash without even thinking about it. If I choose the name, I have to then spend time and money finding someone to pay me more for it, and that work has already been done by the current owner, with no success. So, at what price would I be willing to take over the business of finding someone to pay me good money for Vino.net? Not sure on that, because the ceiling isn't huge here. You probably can't change your life if you take over the business of finding someone to pay good money for Vino.net. Unless I am expecting to get lucky out of the blue, something that the current owner hasn't had happen, then the odds are high that for me to sell this name it would cost me a lot of time and effort. And how would I find someone just starting a wine business? Is the name strong enough that I could convince a current business to change their name?

If people think it is worth 5K, would they work a regular job making $10 an hour for over 12 weeks, if they were getting paid with Vino.net and not cash? Sounds like a bad deal to me. Would anyone work for one week at JC Penney, if they got paid with Vino.net? Sounds like something nobody here would do. I would work a week at JC Penney for a name that might have a high ceiling where I had the potential to change my life for the better. For Vino.com I would put in a few months at JC Penney (in theory...haha).

Sorry to rain on the parade. If you get offered 5K, 10K, or 20K next week, it wouldn't change the reality of what it is worth right now to most people right now, including those starting wine businesses.

 

[ImageAuthors]

@WhoDatDog,

There's a lot in what you say, but some of it seems misguided to me.

Getting a high sale of something like VINO.net doesn't require the stars to align. I've sold many .NETs (including in foreign languages) for more than the $1500 you choose instead. Of course, that's your prerogative. But just because a domain hasn't sold for years is no argument against its selling in the future.

You say "people are doing fine without it" based on there being other websites on page 1 of Google. But there are ALWAYS websites on page 1 of Google. So that argument would prove that any undeveloped domain is useless. Clearly that's not the case.

"In the real world, things just aren't worth multiples of what the leading experts will pay for them." Well, I beg to differ. I'm assuming that you mean domainers when you say "leading experts".

Based on 95% of my end user sales, I'd say that the final retail price has been, in fact, multiples of what any domainer was willing to pay.

 

[Compassion]

$9,242.16

 

[Biggs101]

Thanks for your opinions. I have only owned the name a few weeks.

The domain should sell, at some point in the near future, in the 5K-10K range.

 

[katherine]

As a stand-alone keyword, vino is hugely brandable. Easy to spell and remember, very descriptive, no question about it.
But I also think that the extension hurts. I have sold some .net for (low) 4 figures, and on the occasion I don't mind using a .net for websites in certain niches (eg. computing related).

Some might consider this the second best if the .com is unaffordable (I don't know the price tag, but I suspect it's pretty high).

My gut feeling is mid-$$$$ end user.

As to WhoDatDog is saying: there are many domains, that are not critical but still nice to have.

 

[Shane]

Over $3,000 under $7,000.