Thanks, doberry, I knew that you have an iron mouth but a golden heart.
casinorefunds.com and gamblingrefunds.com were reged for 2001to 2005 by the same guy, playersdiscount.com were long gone.
I noticed that few casinos and casino portals are paying $30 to $40 per hit at OVT. Once their ad is down, few might bookmark their sites.
My thought is if I have the money buy targeted hits to my site, than gamblers maybe bookmark my site for future use, cus I am the only one that offer such benefit to gamblers.
Another catch is that even meself was a pro gambler, but I have no clue which online casino is honest enough that I will gamble with, due to lack of imformation and I don't believe their promotions. But if my site gets a lot feedbacks, and build a data base, than the information will be so valuable to gamblers. If a casino cheats on referral commission, it will be list on my black list and off my site, so pretty soon only the trustable casinos will left and my site should gain huge reputation.
I sent an email to trafficmp.com try to find a partnership, they want me to call back but I haven't, due to I am worry about my poor English and business skills.
If anyone is interested in help me to CEO the idea, I like to share 50% of my share, the other 50% is for trafficmp if they accept the deal. My thought is like this, online gaming is like in Bs, so even my idea can get 1% off the market, that's in 10s of Ms, so I'll be rich enough and don't need more.
Anyways, i am still a gambler, but I can't make money off other poker players any more and I can't beat casino games. Internet is my battlefield now, I can't beat any domain resellers, so I try to find a way survive on line, this idea should work if I have good partner(CEO). Paste 2 mails here, hope you adventurers jump in the game with me or give me any help.
Subj: Re: Service issue - Advertise with us (KMM1667068V38502L0KM)
Date: 11/20/02 7:34:57 PM Central Standard Time
From:
[email protected]
To:
[email protected]
Sent from the Internet (Details)
Thank you for your interest and email. Please contact John Enghauser
to discuss advertising opportunities. Contact information is listed
below:
John Enghauser
Manager of Business Development
Traffic Marketplace
A Vivendi Universal Net USA Company
310-264-4377 ph.
310-264-4393 fax
www.trafficmp.com
Thank you,
TMPExpress Customer Service
Original Message Follows:
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Contact name: Joe Chang
Company name: playerdiscount.com
Email:
[email protected]
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Problem: Advertise with us
Hi,
I have a partnership proposal to ask your review.
In order to
gain bigger market share of casino player, I set up a web site called
playerdiscount.com. The idea is to share referral commission with
players,
so that they might gamble through our referral links.
Traffic is the
key to test my theory, but I can't afford advertising.
I wonder if
you can advertise my site for 50% profit made, or even be my 50/50
partner on this venture.
Thank you for your time, wish you a great
day!
Sincerely,
Joe Chang
playerdiscount.com
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Subj: golden[star]network
Date: 11/15/02 6:43:07 PM Central Standard Time
From:
[email protected]
To:
[email protected]
Sent from the Internet (Details)
Hi Joe,
Once again, thank you for your feedback!!
I must be honest my initial thought was that your idea is a GREAT one, and that it could definitely work - at the very least ensure player loyalty!!
I just think from a administration point of view it is difficult to manage - I already deal with over 500 affiliates and to further monitor this will be difficult.
I do wish you the best of luck though, and will be happy to help wherever I can.
Kind regards,
Marlo
----- Original Message -----
From:
[email protected]
To:
[email protected]
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 5:05 AM
Subject: Re: Welcome to golden[star]network Lin!!
In a message dated 11/14/02 7:15:44 PM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
Hi Joe,
It sounds like a fairly good idea - the only problem with this is that you never attract the quality players you want as they don't spend a lot of money, because they know they'll probably make more money through sharing the commission - also this opens the door to potential promotion abusers, people who only play to get free money and make the minimum deposit required in order to get it.
If you feel that my theory is wrong, please share with me.
Kind regards,
Marlo
Marlo,
I don't get why you think this opens the door to potential promotion abusers, player discount is open for any players that gamble through our referring links, the more they loss the more they get discount from us.
I believe high rollers will care about player discount more then small players. And if there is a discount available, serious players will want to take it and pass the word to friends.
Of course there will be a lot of casinos (cheaters) don't like the idea, but when we find out those honest casinos, our referring reputation will get high reward. Internet is huge but the center circle is small, gamblers desperate for true information and reliable casinos to gamble, they will believe if a casino is honest on commission then it should be also honest on fair gaming.
I checked out some top casinos (bigger promotions) and found out they are not as good as they said. Online gambling is not regulated yet, player discount idea has the potential to become the leading voice of online gaming.
If we promote all top casinos on our site, and we are known by players, I see no reason that they will not play through our links.
My concern is how to make a convenient program that allows players to submit their losses and receive their player discounts.
Please let me know your thoughts, I really have high hope on your partnership as I think your casino is of high quality and your emails are fine.
Have a great night!
Joe