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Article about Dennis Forbes, the so-called "world's preeminent domainologist", and his view on domain names:

So why do people bother to register them? Besides whimsy, Forbes credits a lingering spirit of bubble-era speculation -- however improbable it may be.

''Someone out there,'' he said, ``is still hoping that someone will come along and form a corporation called uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.com, and when that happens, they will be sitting on a gold mine and will reap the rewards.''


http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/special_packages/business_monday/15644684.htm

A "lingering spirit of bubble-era speculation" ?? Comments on this?
 

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''Someone out there,'' he said, ``is still hoping that someone will.... ''

A "lingering spirit of bubble-era speculation" ?? Comments on this?[/I]

I know many of us *don't* rely on hope. We rely on experience of solid sales and/or income.

But I'm sure that there are also a lot of people who *are* relying on something that will probably not happen.
 

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I am sure there are ASCII domainers out there that are still able to squeeze a living out of acquisitions, but they are probably in the minority. ASCII domains are yesterday's news. If you want to make some serious bucks over the next couple of years, you need to catch up with the IDN revolution.
 

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I am sure there are ASCII domainers out there that are still able to squeeze a living out of acquisitions, but they are probably in the minority. ASCII domains are yesterday's news. If you want to make some serious bucks over the next couple of years, you need to catch up with the IDN revolution.

Even though most serious domainers don't really think much of the IDNs, but I must give you credit for trying your best to spam every thread touting IDNs and putting down the normal domains :)

Keep up the great work!!!
 

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I am sure there are ASCII domainers out there that are still able to squeeze a living out of acquisitions, but they are probably in the minority. ASCII domains are yesterday's news. If you want to make some serious bucks over the next couple of years, you need to catch up with the IDN revolution.

Are you suggesting that IDN investment is part of the "lingering spirit of bubble-era speculation"?
 

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Even though most serious domainers don't really think much of the IDNs, but I must give you credit for trying your best to spam every thread touting IDNs and putting down the normal domains :)

Keep up the great work!!!

Actually, I visit here very infrequently now. I was actually on the look out for some interesting news tit-bits for an exciting new IDN forum we have started, but frankly it is just the same old tired drivel.

Addressing, the investment/speculation thing. Yes, it is the natural way of things that speculation preceeds investment. The investors like IREID and Marchex are firmly established. The valuable stuff is being bought up in the secondary market and consolidated in the big boys portfolios. This is helping the resale value of ASCII domains no doubt, but frankly if IREID are buying you should be holding.

Unfortunately, however, this seems to have further fuelled the flame in speculation in ASCII domains by the naive and the stupid, who are evident in large numbers are aggressively registering more rubbish than you could fill a skip with.
 

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frankly it is just the same old tired drivel.

naive and the stupid

Why don't you just *$!@ off.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say we are $!@*%$ off to death with your ignorant ramblings. Do you really think that anyone here wants to hear your hateful and pathetic BS about how dumb ascii domainers are?

No, wait, what am I saying... surely you have some friends somewhere?... What about the IE7 blog over at MSDN?... Well, of course, you've outstayed your welcome there as well, remember?

Get yourself a personality Rubber %&@! or else let the guys over at IDNF buy you a hooker for the night...
 

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Ah, my personal troll again.

Trader Rating 2. I guess your's are all just too valuable to sell?
 

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Ah, my personal troll again.

Trader Rating 2. I guess your's are all just too valuable to sell?

Of course, you have to try and make some supposition about me because you want to retaliate, but don't actually have anything to go on...

Anyway, for those of you who feel like me, and think that Rubber F is a pathetic arse-h whose only joy in life is trying to pull ascii domains down, then here is his website: www.gotidn.com.

The site is a delicious piece of engineering intended to promote idn.com (wow, really, that is a surprise!..). Sign up today and let him guide you in his personal quest for TOTAL idn.com domination. You'll also be able to chat with his sycophantic followers (who don't know any better) and know exactly WHY and HOW his domains are worth so very much.

...or you could just let the creep know what you think of him.
 

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I was really hoping for more stimulating discourse in my thread, but apparently the statements by Dennis Forbes, the so-called "world's preeminent domainologist", don't hold much interest here.

This man holds the distinction of being "the world's preeminent domainologist" but no one here has picked up and run with that very bold assertion!

I simply had no idea that one could become a "domainologist" in the first place. Does it require years of study? A graduate degree? A license to practice domainology?

Are any of you people "domainologists"? Let's hear from you!
 

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But they have ... that's why the discussion in this thread has shifted to discussing other things, such as IDNs...

Speaking of IDNs, it's not a zero-sum game ... the more popular IDNs become, the more important and valuable traditional latin-based (ascii) domains in the major TLDs become.

Ron
 

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I've got the fire hose out if the fire gets too far out of hand chaps!


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But they have ... that's why the discussion in this thread has shifted to discussing other things, such as IDNs...

Speaking of IDNs, it's not a zero-sum game ... the more popular IDNs become, the more important and valuable traditional latin-based (ascii) domains in the major TLDs become.

Ron

Self Appointed titles and personal insults aside, what i can not seem to understand from replies of this thread and other threads is if can someone actually point to disadvantages of idn domains? from the little i know it is the 1st time where full time domainers or part time speculators can jump on a train that is still in its station and not chase a train that left long time ago.

that at least to me makes perfect sense.

it is likely that example.com in Chinese would never be worth what the English equivilent is worth but most of us have no chance to buy anything like example.com


i read alot of negativity as to idn domain names with never an explanation to these negative opinions, when from the other hand i also hear people that are over excited with them.



i wont stress the point to the fact that dcg or anyone else invested in them as this is irrelevant imo,high caliber domainers such as dcg can surely afford to invest 10 or 20k with minimal belief,even if are not sure in the value of this investment (maybe just to ensure not to miss the train)

i am not American and speak a foreign language,most of my family and relatives just don't speak English..and there is practically 4-5 ways to spell a foreign word in English when none of these 4-5 ways is correct just for the fact it is a foreign word and was not intended to be written in English.


what is really strange are the .mobi related replies from past few days with people saying "look into the future" etc when some of these same people choose to ignore idn domains.

the only reason i can find to domainers choosing not to invest in idn domains is the lack of knowledge and understandable difficulty to try and buy something in a world so far away from us.

i can go *^&*&* myself but really i am writing this as i want to learn,educate myself and others and understand what the EXPLAINED different views are

Ron,How do you see the direct tie of idn's strength to ASCII getting stronger?
 

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It is worth remembering that this isn't a discussion about the merits (or otherwise) of idn. It is beyond any doubt now that idn will flourish, and massively so.

My comments are solely directed toward Rubber F, and the ridiculous way he goes around posting his anti-ascii comments on every forum (that hasn't yet banned him...).
 

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This thread isn't about IDN but nor is it about Rubber Duck. It's about the comments by the noted "domainologist" Dennis Forbes. Please, let's try to focus on the discussion topic at hand!
 

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i personally avoid anything that is not relevant to this and IMO this is doing more harm then good.

I take everyone seriously and i welcome anyone that wants to learn and contribute to post questions here or via a new thread and/or pm me.
i also know i can learn from anyone..intentionally or not...and if i can...why not?
i am not at all religiously trying to preach idn's but i believe that doing good to others will always come back at you.
i am not claiming to be an expert or anything near it but when it comes to idn's...sometimes just speaking a foreign language can do wonders, i also got to learn alot from others.
and assuming you did mean it with no sarcasm, i also think they will flourish but can not say it is beyond any doubt..it does make perfect sense though.

Cheers!

P.S Appologies barefoot for going off subject, i will not be posting in this thread anymore.
as to the subject..i really feel its just the writer appointed him domainologist status.
 

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A "lingering spirit of bubble-era speculation" ?? Comments on this?

Speculation, not me...I'm afraid you guys are missing the real news being made here, my domain uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.com finally got media attention!
 

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There is certainly a level of speculation with domains. After all, who really is going to want uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.com? That said, the difference between the dotcom bubble and now is that there are many successful Internet businesses out there with actual positive cash flow. What caused the bubble in 2000 was billions of mom 'n' pop dollars being poured into startups with vague business plans and no proven cashflow. Of course it was going to burst.
 
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