Worse than China..........Afghanistan

[dnol]

750+people frozen to death at least

People
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A tired USA sodier in Af.
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[Donald Aquilano]

and your point is?

 

[dnol]

i just feel to cry soon,very heart broken.........

 

[Melly]

Its sad that there are people all over the world who go out with out food, clothing, shelter and medical care but for some countries they choose not to take care of their own. I'm not really sure what the point of your post is but the way some countries are ran they deprive themselves and run their own country into the ground. You can't really help countries that have no desire to be helped. I mean yes there are countries that are just over populated and not enough things to go around I'm not sure how they fix that problem.

I'm from the US and as rich as our country is there should not be anyone even here that has no food or shelter but there is.


I wish there was no one in this type of situation but it will never change.

 

[dnol]

I am not a Bush government expert, but know USA government Help the recent China Snow havoc with clothes, food, in southern part of China. Thanks for the help.
I had friends in USA, Phd in political science, they said Bush is a corrupt guy, he is quite related with petroleum groups and fire the countries rich in oil and kill people, the reasons that are not that reasonable, so Bush apologize all the time.
I also heard that Bin Laden family and Bush are good friends.
Not sure who knows the truth.

I do not want to discuss politics here, but I cannot close my eyes and forget the innocent children frozen to death in the 2 meters deep snow.
I am not sure what I can do .

 

[Melly]

I am not a Bush government expert, but know USA government Help the recent China Snow havoc with clothes, food, in southern part of China. Thanks for the help.
I had friends in USA, Phd in political science, they said Bush is a corrupt guy, he is quite related with petroleum groups and fire the countries rich in oil and kill people, the reasons that are not that reasonable, so Bush apologize all the time.
I also heard that Bin Laden family and Bush are good friends.
Not sure who knows the truth.

I do not want to discuss politics here, but I cannot close my eyes and forget the innocent children frozen to death in the 2 meters deep snow.
I am not sure what I can do .

Well I highly doubt that our president is friends with Bin Laden but that is a whole different issue than children freezing to death. There are children in our country that freeze to death due to lack of shelter but its like that all over. Its not just one countrys duty to care for them its everyones obligation. The only way to cure a world of poverty and homeless is for more people to care about others. But its not going to happen. There are thousands of people that go out of there way to help someone but its not enough and it never will be. The people who are in place and can change the way things are won't do it. Its the way things always have been and always will be.

Its sad but true.

 

[stock_post]

Corruption is one of the main causes.
-- If you donate say $10000.00 so some people can buy strong rug or something.

-- It is very unlikely that one would get it.
Most of the money will go into the employees in the distribution channel and the rug would go to some politician’s house.

 

[dnol]

My dream is to be the donator and employee at the same time one day.
Now just donate fund to true friends that can give fund to the poor children that needs the tuition fees.

 

[draggar]

My dream is to be the donator and employee at the same time one day.
Now just donate fund to true friends that can give fund to the poor children that needs the tuition fees.

A bank in the mid-west gave all of their employees something like a $1,000 Christmas bonus.

One stipulation:

They couldn't keep it. They had to donate it to a charity or give it to people in need (buy 50 homeless people a nice lunch etc..).

My wife and I do a lot of work for Malinois rescue (http://www.malinoisrescue.org) (We've also helped out Deguo Hei Bei rescue (dnol should know this one). ). It's actually sad that we can get dogs to families faster than our own government can get children in need the help they need.

As for the solders, I've had friends in Afghanistan and Iraq (who in the US hasn't?). I don't know how they do it, go though that and come back appearing fine. Some have seen some considerable action, too. I could only imagine what the civilians in those countries are going though.

 

[dnol]

What I heard is that USA army have tragedies.
I also heard USA firiends and students majors Politcal science told me that most of USA people are not caring about politics ,foreign affairs ,but more on entertainment.
I read some news directly from USA media that many USA sodiers are not in good situation in the Iraq,Af,and so on.
Many tragedies,some USA sodiers said killing people just like online computer games,what you need to do is just Shooting to the possible dangerous people....
And USA employees in Iraq has higher payment and female employees are in a terrifying situation,they are hurt by male employees and taken into cells until USA government to rescure them.
Some USA army are homesick and sons are dying and their USA parents are crying.

 

[draggar]

Sadly, I'm sure that is happening but my friends would be devastated if they found out any of their buddies (war buddies, army buddies etc..) were even thinking of that. I hope it is a very small percentage doing these things (remember the prison scandal in Iraq?).

Also, over there they have a lot of people who are there just to kill US troops, it is a badge of honor to them. They use any tactic to kill US troops - remember Iraqi solders getting in with a group of civilians and then shooting at the troops, but then they complain that the troops shot at civilians?

How about that orphanage in Afghanistan? There was a huge global outcry because the US blew up a building that was an orphanage. Very few acknowledged that it was also an Al-Qaida training facility.

They complain that the US raided a mosque which terrorists were hiding out in yet almost no one complained when the Taliban destroyed the cliff-side statues (was that Petra?).

The world media wants to show their views and propaganda. We'll see 10,000 starving children before they even want to show one child saved by a US trooper, or a new school built, or the people who aren't oppressed anymore. The only "good" news from the war I've heard of are straight from solders. I rarely see it on the nightly news.

The losses of wars are sad, on both ends. Its also sad that our governments can't put their differences aside to help those who are really in need. One side wants to give but with a lot of limitations, the side will take but will only use a very small part to help people in need, if they do at all.

Also, right now the focus is on the US military, but almost every country's military has their black marks in their history.

 

[dnol]

Sigh,it is also HEADACHES to make the IRAQ and AF people to treat USA army friendly.
Anyway,I heard IRAQ children said their life changed to much much worse when USA army go to Iraq.
I believe that some Generals and soldiers treasure the democracy and enter the Iraq,and find factually the Iraq people do not like it.They like peace and nation independence.
Ex-president of USA politics Society told me it was wrong and it would be total failure for Bush send soldiers to Iraq at the very very beginning and this becomes true.
heavy truth.

 

[draggar]

I think it is time to say:

"Agree to disagree" k:

I have (ethical) friends in Iraq and Afghanistan who tell me what goes on and I think if I continued on I would be biased. I do respect your opinions, though.

 

[dnol]

I think it is never right for local people and terrorists to kill USA soldiers too.
Do not misunderstand me.

 

[Melly]

War is bad no matter how you look at it. No matter what country the war is in the people that live through it suffer. I do not believe in war because I do not see the point in it. Its a cycle that will never end. A lot of countries hate us for trying to help and I think sometimes we do more harm than good.


I wish there was a miracle drug that allowed everyone to be civil to one another but because of the different religions and beliefs and the way each country is ran its impossible.


I'm sorry that these countries are having innocent children hurt or injured. I pray for them just as much as I prayed for the children who suffered in our country on 9/11, or when the latest Tsunamis that hit that took innocent lives or all the suicide bombings that are reported daily.

 

[draggar]

I think it is never right for local people and terrorists to kill USA soldiers too.
Do not misunderstand me.

Don't worry, I don't misunderstand you, we just have differences of opinions, that's all. A lot of times, these differences become rather volatile situations that make the moderators' jobs difficult and stressful (I doubt this thread will get to that level, but it has the potential). Our differences in opinion are stemmed from two completely different set of circumstances. You're in China which is next to one of these hot spots while I have friends in the military, it's natural for our opinions to be different.

I just decided it was time to agree that we disagree with each other on some points. k:

 

[dnol]

I think I might do not know the real truth.
As I donot stay in Iraq and Af,I think I am not in a suitable position to comment too much,what I know are mainly from media,and media sometimes are wrong and not reporting the truth.
I can try to understand your friends in army and their situation.Sodiers are innocent too as long as they are kind people.


Libraries ,newspapers,movies shows different stories.But what is the truth,may be only go there and investigate by self will make me know the origin.

 

[domain newbie]

dnol- where is original article?

 

[dnol]

see above post：）