61.com sold to China game company

[Anthony Ng]

Recommend that this thread be moved to advertising as it is most likely a fabricated story to drive traffic to the site.

That is quite a serious but unsubstantiated accusation.

If you take a closer look (even if you don't read Chinese), you will know that 61.com (by taomee.com) is actually a real website, and not some stupid parking pages that beg for "traffic" esp. from DNForum.

By the way, 61.com was actually sold on Sedo for $148,334.72 (that's about 1M RMB):

http://www.sedo.com/press/Q3_09_Market_Study.pdf

EDIT TYPO: 1M RMB, NOT US$, APPARENTLY.

 

[Gerry]

That is quite a serious but unsubstantiated accusation.

If you take a closer look (even if you don't read Chinese), you will know that 61.com (by taomee.com) is actually a real website, and not some stupid parking pages that beg for "traffic" esp. from DNForum.

By the way, 61.com was actually sold on Sedo for $148,334.72 (that's about US$1M):

http://www.sedo.com/press/Q3_09_Market_Study.pdf

What was more unsubstantiated at the time?

My claim of unsubstantiation?

Or the "I think but I don't know" claim?

And how about taking my post in its entirety?

Glad I am not the only one finding it odd that someone who just joined is posting a claim of $1 mil paid that is unsubstantiated.

Odd that the person posting knows everything about it - except the details.

Recommend that this thread be moved to advertising as it is most likely a fabricated story to drive traffic to the site.

As for 61 dot com being live, I was well aware of that - along with the copyright date on the site being 2007-2009 usually indicating the date of going "live" or when advertising in earnest started.

Someone can not (legally) place a copyright on a site unless they actually had ownership of that site and certainly not when the domain was owned by someone else.

As well as being aware of the WHOIS data being expiration of 2017 which may (may not) indicate the domain was purchased in 2007 and renewed for the maximum...10 years out.

By the way, 61.com was actually sold on Sedo for $148,334.72 (that's about US$1M):

You may want to go back and (if you were serious about the $1 mil figure) and take a look at those sales figures again, being that they are reported in US Dollars and not in "millions" of dollars. Otherwise, I missed the news of the sale of call dot com of $1.1 Billion dollars.

 

[HE]

Hehe, be cool, guys...

I think there must be some misunderstanding here, everything is exchange rate’s wrong...

http://www.sedo.com/links/showhtml.php3?Id=2469&tracked=&partnerid=&language=us

1€(EUR) = 10.21￥(RMB) 100,000€ = 1,021,000￥

I guess he is mistaken about the monetary unit, but nobody lied here... :yes:

 

[grcorp]

I guess it's one million RMB, and NOT USD.

I'm not sure of RMB is synonymous with CNY or not... but if it is, per XE.com, the equivalent would be $146,487.95 USD

http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi?Amount=1000000&From=CNY&To=USD&image.x=45&image.y=8&image=Submit

 

[Anthony Ng]

Edited typo of my previous post.

By the way, Doc Com, except for that careless typo of mine, there's really nothing else to discuss further.

But next time, BEFORE you make that kind of accusation, at least do some simple Googling LIKE I DID. (That's how I found out 61.com was sold at Sedo in the 3rd quarter of 2009.)

 

[DNWizardX9]

Wow ;-) Nice sale

 

[Gerry]

Edited typo of my previous post.

By the way, Doc Com, except for that careless typo of mine, there's really nothing else to discuss further.

But next time, BEFORE you make that kind of accusation, at least do some simple Googling LIKE I DID. (That's how I found out 61.com was sold at Sedo in the 3rd quarter of 2009.)

bite my ass.

I stand by everything I claimed.

The OP had NO information to disclose except for rumors.

And the domain DID NOT SELL for one million dollars as those in the thread (including your self) reported.

Typo my ass. You were attempting to support their claims and too wrapped up into making me look foolish that even you thought it was in the millions.

It'll be a cold day in hell and a colder day on DNF that I take advice from you.

Changing this

$148,334.72 (that's about US$1M)

to this

$148,334.72 (that's about 1M RMB)

is hardly a damn typo.

 

[Anthony Ng]

I'm not sure of RMB is synonymous with CNY or not... but if it is, per XE.com, the equivalent would be $146,487.95 USD

http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi?Amount=1000000&From=CNY&To=USD&image.x=45&image.y=8&image=Submit

Yes, RMB (Renminbi, transliterally People's Currency) is the Chinese dollar. In Chinese, dollar is called Yuan; and they use CNY for the ISO code (like USD).

The OP made a mistake in reporting. gamespot.com.cn also "reported" it in RMB (because it's a Chinese website). However, the Sedo link I posted should make that very clear.

That Doc Com guy WRONGFULLY bashed the OP for soliciting website traffic, which in itself is not cool in the first place. The worse thing is, he is not willing to acknowledge his fault even AFTER the FACT has been posted; now THAT's a SHAME.

I must also thank you for quoting my earlier post in this thread (that "I guess it's one million RMB, and NOT USD") which CLEARLY debunks the BS of Doc Com about my typo.

 

[Gerry]

Yes, RMB (Renminbi, transliterally People's Currency) is the Chinese dollar. In Chinese, dollar is called Yuan; and they use CNY for the ISO code (like USD).

The OP made a mistake in reporting. gamespot.com.cn also "reported" it in RMB (because it's a Chinese website). However, the Sedo link I posted should make that very clear.

That Doc Com guy WRONGFULLY bashed the OP for soliciting website traffic, which in itself is not cool in the first place. The worse thing is, he is not willing to acknowledge his fault even AFTER the FACT has been posted; now THAT's a SHAME.

I must also thank you for quoting my earlier post in this thread (that "I guess it's one million RMB, and NOT USD") which CLEARLY debunks the BS of Doc Com about my typo.

Soliciting website traffic? Hardly. I suggested it be moved to advertising because at the time the first post was made, there was no substantiation and no disclaimer that the person making the claim was not affiliated with either site he was mentioning.

The shame is you really should not dwell on me.

You quoted Sedo, not I.

You supported the million dollar claim, not I.

And the fact remains this was not a million dollar sale.

 

[DNWizardX9]

Who cares the point is Chinese companies see the value of domain names and are paying $xxx,xxx for domain names...

 

[Gerry]

Who cares the point is Chinese companies see the value of domain names and are paying $xxx,xxx for domain names...

Who cares?

It's been known that Chinese companies know the value of domains.

I simply care that, with all the bogus sale attempts on DNF and claims made recently about sales, that another million dollar claim comes along that no one has heard about and the person making the claim can not offer anything more than what he heard.

This was not a million dollar sale.

That's the point.

 

[Anthony Ng]

Who cares the point is Chinese companies see the value of domain names and are paying $xxx,xxx for domain names...

True. It's a piece of news that domain investors should take note of, not just because corporate buyers from China are willing to pay big bucks for domains, but also because it clearly shows what kind of domains (numbers, not English keywords) are doing well in that market.

It's sad that there is some bad apple here who rewarded the good will of a new member in posting a useful piece of news (rightfully in the domain name news section) with some totally baseless accusation. On another busy forum that I also frequent on a daily basis, infraction points are levied against such unacceptable behaviour.

 

[Gerry]

It's sad that there is some bad apple here who rewarded the good will of a new member in posting a useful piece of news (rightfully in the domain name news section) with some totally baseless accusation. On another busy forum that I also frequent on a daily basis, infraction points are levied against such unacceptable behaviour.

Hey assclown.

This was a totally baseless thread, don't cha think?

I asserted from the beginning that the entire claim was baseless (the sales price) and suggested until there was substantiation that the thread be moved to advertising until the claims were backed up.

I guess I should have suggested the thread be moved to Legal along with the other two assclowns who made bogus claims of domain names.

I think the forum is doing the right thing in moving questionable claims and ownership to Legal.

A member (unbeknowst until now) posts a bogus thread about a domain selling for 1 million dollars. And what do you do? YOU support the claim rather than accept the fact that it was a bogus claim.

Then when you realize your own stupidity and try to discredit me.

In another time and moment, had this been you making the claim of bogusness you'd be patting yourself on the back and looking for someone to stroke you.

You ****ed up, try to brush this off as being a typo on your part, and now you want to try to shift the focus off of you.

If infraction points were awarded for stupidity, you win!

 

[DomainsInc]

Huge difference between 100k and 1 mil....

 

[Anthony Ng]

Hey assclown ...

So the OP has made an HONEST MISTAKE of reporting the sale of 61.com as one million dollars US instead of RMB. After some Googling, reliable source (Sedo) has been identified, and the correct currency clarified AS I GUESSED. So what's the big deal, other than some mean soul thinking that every new member is suspicious of scamming, and unnecessarily poured some overly harsh words on a new member who simply started a thread of a newsworthy piece of information?

Groundless accusation debunked, turned to personal attack. Old trick. Been there, seen that. Total waste of time.

If DNForum is ever degrading in quality as the industry's leading forum, the post that I quoted above (with all those vulgar words, unprofessional tone and babbling content) is exactly what contributes to that. We really shouldn't let this kind of low level threadcrapping ruin this place.

 

[Gerry]

Groundless accusation debunked, turned to personal attack. Old trick. Been there, seen that. Total waste of time.

Yes, indeed. A personal attack launched by you that I am responding to. As it would seem, you are familiar with these tactics.

Rather than admit your own mistakes and errors, you insist on shifting the focus to me.

As someone else pointed out, there is a HUGE difference from 100K to 1mil.

So, for someone who is trying to discredit me (and my cautious mode not to get by misinformation), keep defending your comments in the thread. You went as far as proclaiming that the amount paid was nearly a million and put a little smilie face at the end as if you were some smug little victorious savior.

Thus, the assclown moniker.

Where it proudly like your little "typo".

 

[DNWizardX9]

I think the point was proved .. What else is going to come out of this now? The OP was wrong and it was clarified by others.. There are many different currencies and stuff like this happens. It is still a big sale. It also shows in general if you have a 2 or 3 digit numeric domain you'll get much more money from companies in China. Numeric domains are in high demand there and many of the big sites use them.

 

[Catch.Center]

Common Chinese people like 2 or 3 or 4 digit that is simple or popular to remember.

 

[tattoos]

Who cares the point is Chinese companies see the value of domain names and are paying $xxx,xxx for domain names...

What I find most interesting is that CNET Networks reported...

Industry speculation, in view of the scarcity of domain names, the domain name transaction price may be as high as hundreds of million yuan.

According to Google, "100 000 000 Chinese yuan = 14.6486 million U.S. dollars"

Assuming industry is the end user, if industry speculates those sorts of prices in view of scarcity, does that mean industries (in particular Chinese) place a higher value on domains of this type than current market values?

Cheers
James

 

[snicksnack]

whenever big numbers are involved and they get translated from english into chinese or the other way round, you can bet on it that the translation is wrong, as the chinese use a different way of expressing numbers above 10,000.