Alert: Everydayincome.com - possible scam

[options]

Recently I came accross an offer for direct email promotion by
everydayincome.com owned by Eleview International Inc., US.
They have offices in Russia too.


They (still) offer free trial of submitting your names to 100
targeted buyers.
The options are as follow:
Sending a message to 5,000 addresses $ 250 (bronze package)
Sending a message to 10,000 addresses $ 300 (silver package)
Sending a message to 15,000 addresses $ 350 (gold package)
Sending a message to 20,000 addresses $ 400 (platinum package)


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I gave it a try and soon recieved the following replies:

>Thank you for your ad
>
>Some nice names there i am looking at a couple
>of them with interest.
>I'm checking each and every one of interest.
>Actually, I think that StocksWinner.com is pretty nice.
>
>Regards
>Michaele

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>Hello,
>
>You've sent me ad through EverydayIncome.com
>
>At this moment I'm interested in quality gambling and adult >names only.
>
>My budget is $15,000 for domain names ($25,000 for developed >web sites)
>
>Please post them to me for consideration. And don't forget to >specify your price.
>
>Send your domains direct to beckmann..../email]
>
>This is my mail box for domain deals.

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>Hello,
>
>You sent me an ad through evrydayincome free posting service.
>I may offer you $3,500 for Stocks-Advice.com We are going to >start a new web
>project after 1-2 months and we need additional domains for >forwarding
>traffic to our main sites. But our project is not ready yet
>so I cannot make any purchases right now. If everything goes >ok I'll contact you after 1-2 months. I have already saved your >ad on file.
>If your domain has not been sold by that time feel free to email >me.

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Well, it works at least. If I had three responses from 100 mails
how many I should expect from 20,000?
Before I ordered their premium package I checked all the incoming mail headers.
I am not suspicious by nature but by experience as I am already
41 yo.

So here is what I found:

message 1:

Received: from softforyou (ppp129-96.dialup.mtu-net.ru [62.118.129.96]) by hueymiccailhuitl.mtu.ru (Postfix) with SMTP id 41D17F8C39 for <[email protected]>; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 22:41:47 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from michaele.....)


message 2 :

Received: from softforyou (ppp96-121.dialup.mtu-net.ru [212.188.96.121]) by hueymiccailhuitl.mtu.ru (Postfix) with SMTP id D1F91FA1D8 for <[email protected]>; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 11:08:48 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from beckmann.....)

message 3:

Received: from softforyou (ppp96-72.dialup.mtu-net.ru [212.188.96.72]) by hueymiccailhuitl.mtu.ru (Postfix) with SMTP id 510D2FB15A for <[email protected]>; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:12:28 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from domain.....)


A nice and dirty trick, I think.
Maybe all the answers came through remailer?

Note that they explicitly say :

"No commission upon sale that you have to pay to a broker because you specify your email in ad and buyers will contact you DIRECT."


Now, I would like someone else to try that free promotion with some bad names and share his/her experience here.

 

[Donna Mahony]

This person reads the forums. He spams me constantly in reference to posts here.

 

[Bob]

Originally posted by winfreecash
This person reads the forums. He spams me constantly in reference to posts here.

I get spammed quite often from everydayincome.com too. . . Annoying.

-Bob

 

[options]

Originally posted by winfreecash
This person reads the forums. He spams me constantly in reference to posts here.

He obviously doesnt.
I recieved one more with the same headers:

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"Hello domain speculator ,

Thanks for your ad. We are looking to buy some names with good traffic.

We always need a serious proof and I must be sure that particular
domains are worth buying.
Could you email us an appraisal certificate for StocksWinner.com

Thanks!

Elizabeth & James Smidt"
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[Donna Mahony]

Name:shawn
You should not reply to the address in the FROM field. Please reply to: [email protected]

hello, Have a name that you might be interested in...

www.DietingPills.com

I am open to offers..
THanks
shawn
[email protected]

Looks like member sjp to me

 

[GiantDomains]

winfree you are right... it is SJP

SJP is a major spammer. I sent a nice email to him asking him to stop, and he wrote back asking me to "define" spam. I told him, I did not ask for the mass emails he was sending me. Unsolicited email is spam. He told me dnforum affords him the email address function, so he uses it.

Next thing i know, he puts up a dnforum post asking to please define spam????

Here's that post.

http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?threadid=6437

 

[888]

Hi Everybody,

Please check Alexa contact and feedback for Everydayincome.com and Allfordomains.com. They seem to run by the same people.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details?amzn_id=&url=everydayincome.com

http://www.alexa.com/data/details?amzn_id=&url=allfordomains.com

Be afraid, be VERY afraid!!

 

[sjp]

Latest Everyday Income Spam
Name:shawn
You should not reply to the address in the FROM field. Please reply to: [email protected]

hello, Have a name that you might be interested in...

www.DietingPills.com

I am open to offers..
THanks
shawn
[email protected]

Looks like member sjp to me


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WinFreeCash


Last edited by winfreecash on 10-01


Win Free Cash,... If you go to everydayincome.com it states that this is non spamming.
I spent 59.00 to become a member there to reply to the want ads.

How am I spamming if you are the one that placed the ad for replys...

If you dont want people sending you email, Then dont ask for it.

 

[sjp]

Just woundering who authorized my name to be placed in this forum any how..

I never asked you to publicly display me emial address and I dont think you should do that.

 

[Donna Mahony]

I NEVER placed an ad at everyday income and never looked at their site. Appears to be ALL the domains wanted from here!

 

[sjp]

Well, I just emailed everyday income and



quote:
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Originally posted by winfreecash
This person reads the forums. He spams me constantly in reference to posts here.
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"Hello domain speculator ,

Thanks for your ad. We are looking to buy some names with good traffic.

We always need a serious proof and I must be sure that particular
domains are worth buying.
Could you email us an appraisal certificate for StocksWinner.com

Thanks!

Elizabeth & James Smidt"


These people have made others go broke.. Meaning they always want the appraisal and never respond.. EverydayIncome is a fluke and a rip off.

I have over 20 emails from them and they are all from the same IP address..

Anyhow... What can we do about them before they rip someone else off...>???

We Should be able to get together something..(all of our emails and documents) and take it to some form of board to get there site revoked or kicked off, cant we??

Please let me know, I am tired of people riping others off..

Thanks
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[options]

SJP,

Can you make it more readable?
You put some posts from winfreecash and me together
with your comments without any delimiters.

 

[Donna Mahony]

SJP is a major spammer. I sent a nice email to him asking him to stop, and he wrote back asking me to "define" spam. I told him, I did not ask for the mass emails he was sending me. Unsolicited email is spam. He told me dnforum affords him the email address function, so he uses it.
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The ONLY acceptable reply to a request to stop is "I am sorry, it won't happen again."

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I never asked you to publicly display me emial address and I dont think you should do that.
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Well according to your reasoning, EverydayIncome made it available, so I used it.

 

[dkny]

needless to say, SJP spammed me thru my eBay account too. this is what he calls marketing...

 

[lhague]

.....I received a couple of emails too with different email address.

I shared my experiences with allfordomains in a previous thread and new as soon as I saw everydayincome it was the same company....

I just wondered if any of you have tried this one who I received an email from, I havent really looked into their service deeply, havent had time and become so skeptical where any service claimes they will get buyers for your names...

http://openforsale.com/how_do_i_sell_my_domains.htm

 

[sjp]

Here is the responce from everyday income..
As far as all those comments about spamming.. Well If you dont like emails, then sign off and hide in your closet..

Here is the letter from them////
Dear Shawn,

Regarding the same IP address. I spoke to our web administrator reagarding
this matter.

As you might notice all your replies came with [email protected] as a
return address.
In the body of your message we added the following string:
"Please reply direct to <your address>"
For example:
" Please reply direct to [email protected] "

But some of our buyres reply to our email address instead of yours and we
have to forward all the messages to your address. We simply set the buyer's
address as a return address in order to prevent future forwarding. That's
why you received several messages from our IP address.

Anyway, we respect our customers and if you feel our service is not good for
you, we provide you with a refund. This is our policy. So we refunded your
membership fee $59

Our service works very good and we have many happy customers. So if you
begin to distribute the misleading and false information about our service ,
our lawyers we'll protect our rights and you'll be resonsible in full for
all the damage to our business reputation. We also consider it as a very
serious matter.

I wish you good luck on the domain aftermarket !

Sincerely,

Julie Troitskaya

Customer Support

http://www.EverydayIncome.com

 

[options]

Oh no. Not again.
SJP you too???

 

[sjp]

Yes, I am fighting with them now..

I get emails every day From SPAMMERS... Asking if Everydayincome is good and true.

I dont care who emails me, I have the philosophy, if you email me I will try to answer it.

But I would really be aware of this company and the apparent affilitates,,

Good luck

 

[Donna Mahony]

Originally posted by sjp
Here is the responce from everyday income..
As far as all those comments about spamming.. Well If you dont like emails, then sign off and hide in your closet..

Shawn,

Using these people for business is one thing, but you should show respect for the folks of this community.

 

[Donna Mahony]

I am going to reply to each and every email from everydayincome and let them know the paid $59 to thieves. The copy of the meail follows this one. Feel free to copy and send to the emails you get also.