closed Another Unsolicited Offer for .INFO....

[DryHeat]

and, this is for:

Clinical.info

The inquiry is from a healthcare research and database company providing online evidence-based clinical info. Although I’d known but not fully appreciated till now that .INFO is probably the most (if not only) logical tld with certain healthcare names such as this one. I mean even clinical.org/.net does not make that much sense, let alone clinical.com, as clinical.info. Well, Lets see what happens?

Serious, thoughtful input as to the potential valuation will definitely be appreciated.


P.S.
For refernce, in last few weeks I've sold LowerManhattan.info for $1.5K, Bahai.info for $1.2K, Compra.info for $1K and currently Electrochemistry.info is in escrow for $1.8K.

 

[domainAddict]

Dryheat: congrats on your sales! Wish I had regged some .infos like these sooner. I Guess most of them are already taken by now..

 

[timechange.com]

Germans like .info almost as much as .de (instead of .com).
Good sales, I'd keep the selling price to myself though for obvious reasons

 

[CoolHost.com]

"Serious, thoughtful input as to the potential valuation will definitely be appreciated."

Ummm ... I'll come back tom'w with my serious and thoughtful 'two cents!
In the meantime, check ITS availability. Good Luck.

 

[DryHeat]

Originally posted by domainAddict
Dryheat: congrats on your sales! Wish I had regged some .infos like these sooner. I Guess most of them are already taken by now..

Thanks dAddict for well wishes. You're right in that vast majority of such key-word names have been long gone. I don't know how familiar you're with the .INFO roll-out process back in 2001. It was an extremely taxing endeavour, emotionally, financially and time-wise. There was a great deal of mismanagement and plenty of fiascos as well as some ethically questionable practices; even myself, being a fallable human got cought up in a registrar-instigated fiasco for a while. However, at the end the LR-1 in fall of 2001 did leave me some very decent names and this happens to be one of them. Good Luck to you in your domainer endeavours since opportunities do present themselves time and again. I do believe, unlike some other experienced domainers here, that right now .US does represent the tail-end of that opportunity; my own hunch is that .US phenomenon potentially can be much bigger than .INFO & ..BIZ combined....of course just my opinion.

 

[DryHeat]

Originally posted by CoolHost
"Ummm ... I'll come back tom'w with my serious and thoughtful 'two cents!
In the meantime, check ITS availability. Good Luck.

Cool H, by "check ITS availability" if you mean Clinicalinfo.com, then that's already regged and is for sale:

Domain Name: CLINICALINFO.COM

Administrative Contact:
clinicalinfo.com
RareNames, WebReg
4200 Wisconsin Avenue NW #106-190
Washington, DC 20016-2143
US
202-478-0990
202-478-0990 [fax]
[email protected]


NS.BUYDOMAINS.COM
THIS-DOMAIN-FOR-SALE.COM

So I guess the buyer now has a choice; not generally a good scenario for the seller....as I said above, lets see what happens!

 

[CoolHost.com]

"So I guess the buyer now has a choice; not generally a good scenario for the seller....as I said above, lets see what happens!"

Especially, "not generally a good scenario for the seller" ... which is why I talk so much of ... 'protecting the investment'!
But, yes, good enough! Thanks 'Heat. I will always wish you well with whatever you do in domain life! Good Luck.

 

[mole]

Originally posted by DryHeat


Thanks dAddict for well wishes. You're right in that vast majority of such key-word names have been long gone. I don't know how familiar you're with the .INFO roll-out process back in 2001. It was an extremely taxing endeavour, emotionally, financially and time-wise. There was a great deal of mismanagement and plenty of fiascos as well as some ethically questionable practices; even myself, being a fallable human got cought up in a registrar-instigated fiasco for a while. However, at the end the LR-1 in fall of 2001 did leave me some very decent names and this happens to be one of them. Good Luck to you in your domainer endeavours since opportunities do present themselves time and again. I do believe, unlike some other experienced domainers here, that right now .US does represent the tail-end of that opportunity; my own hunch is that .US phenomenon potentially can be much bigger than .INFO & ..BIZ combined....of course just my opinion.

Yup, DryHeat went through some tough times on the ICANN forums *wink*

 

[DryHeat]

Originally posted by mole


Yup, DryHeat went through some tough times on the ICANN forums *wink*

I definitely do not want to repeat that part of the experience although if one really looks back, despite all the negativity, for me at least there also was a great deal of excitement and a revival of nostalgic feelings of healthy competition from earlier school years. In this case, the competitiors were other registrants in the pool and the excitement was in keeping tabs on which registrar is going which route, who's opening up the pre-reg que, when and for how much; who gets to pre-reg the prime names first; what's the total tally of pre-regs; and finally the BIG day followed by trickling of results....I'd admit that I do miss this second part of the new tld roll-outs!

 

[Wot]

Amen,

I have a bucketload of .us some good some bad some ugly, but those who do not have them ain't even in the game. Already sold two. Profit 6 x current outlay in a few months.

.info , I have also had some interest in some of my mediocre names but no sales as yet.

.ws major interest in acouple of name believe it or not, just turned down a high three figures for one!

The dogs are only just in the traps!(pm me for explanation if necessary)

 

[interbuy]

DryHeat

I have had some of my best unsolicited offers for my disease name .info. It seems dot info makes particular sense for these and medical terms.

interbuy

 

[mole]

Originally posted by interbuy
I have had some of my best unsolicited offers for my disease name .info. It seems dot info makes particular sense for these and medical terms.

I don't know whether to laugh or sigh

 

[DomeBase]

Originally posted by 2003
Germans like .info almost as much as .de (instead of .com).
Good sales, I'd keep the selling price to myself though for obvious reasons

Hi 2003,

I agree that there are generally good reasons to keep deal specifics confidential... however for these new TLDs (especially .INFO): the market is new and sharing information about sales helps folks to gauge value (like a public service); many, especially American .COM fans, remain sceptical about the use and value of .INFO and this helps provide hard evidence to modify opinions; and it is in domain holders' interests to provide information and exposure concerning .INFO because the registry is not doing much; and even the buyers benefit when there is additional exposure for the extension. It is a balance, but I think that on balance it is good for folks to share general price ranges for .INFO sales. I certainly appreciate it as I try to base my views on data. For my sales, I have asked the buyer if they would mind my saying the general price range of the sale and they have not minded.

 

[DomeBase]

Originally posted by mole


Yup, DryHeat went through some tough times on the ICANN forums *wink*

As have most of us at one time or another.

With all the machinations and odd rules and changes, it has not always been easy to figure out what are/were the rules of the game in the .INFO roll out.

Some folks clearly did not care much about what was right or wrong... especially those with inside knowledge who should have known better. Some simply ripped off others. They tend to never show their face (avatar) at any forum and seldom respond to inquiry... hiding in the shadows like some kind of ring wraith (Lord of the Rings).... "my precious domainzzzzz... my preciouzzzzz... yezzz.... Iwill launder them, my preciouzzzzz"

Some other folks genuinely tried to figure out what is right and wrong during the roll out in the face of odd and changing rules... and some made decisions that some others may have criticized with the benefit of hindsight. Please let's not go into all the details here (that is covered elsewhere, such as ICANNWatch) -- but I would say that most of the folks that I know who have engaged in discussion are good people who may have made a possible mistep or two when the path became quite cloudy. In these cases, I think we should be gracious with each other rather than dredging stuff up or rushing to judgment. Just my two cents.

 

[DomeBase]

Originally posted by DryHeat
and, this is for:

Clinical.info

The inquiry is from a healthcare research and database company providing online evidence-based clinical info. Although I’d known but not fully appreciated till now that .INFO is probably the most (if not only) logical tld with certain healthcare names such as this one. I mean even clinical.org/.net does not make that much sense, let alone clinical.com, as clinical.info. Well, Lets see what happens?

Serious, thoughtful input as to the potential valuation will definitely be appreciated.


P.S.
For refernce, in last few weeks I've sold LowerManhattan.info for $1.5K, Bahai.info for $1.2K, Compra.info for $1K and currently Electrochemistry.info is in escrow for $1.8K.

Excellent .INFO.

Valuations of .INFOs on this forum tend to be bimodal (or even bipolar )... my hunch is there will be a bunch of people who say.. bah.... ClinicalInformation2003.com is better... Clinical.info is only worth $100. Others will say, Clinical.info is worth far more than Clinical.com, don't sell for less than $20,000.

My guess would be $2,000-$3,000 now... $3,000-$6,000 a year from now. Trade off in risk and return in timing is up to you.

 

[DryHeat]

Originally posted by DomeBase


Hi 2003,

I agree that there are generally good reasons to keep deal specifics confidential... however for these new TLDs (especially .INFO): the market is new and sharing information about sales helps folks to gauge value (like a public service); many, especially American .COM fans, remain sceptical about the use and value of .INFO and this helps provide hard evidence to modify opinions; and it is in domain holders' interests to provide information and exposure concerning .INFO because the registry is not doing much; and even the buyers benefit when there is additional exposure for the extension.

This is the main reason I've posted the sale prices of my.INFOs even though there might be good reasons not to do so, one being to not portray yourself as "just a domain seller" which many people equate with being a "cybersquatter". I do feel, however, that I've enough evidence in support of my domain-development ventures (whether successful or not so far) that such point if ever raised in a UDRP type proceeding can be countered. I also think it may be a better idea to just note the range of selling price of any given domain or in case of multiple sales, the range and the average.

 

[DryHeat]

Originally posted by DomeBase


My guess would be $2,000-$3,000 now... $3,000-$6,000 a year from now. Trade off in risk and return in timing is up to you.

Thanks DomeBase; could have sought your input via PM but again one of the objectives is to encourage informed discussion about the new tlds in open forums like these. I agree with your valuation figures given the status of new tlds. I also try keeping in mind that if I'd accept a little less than what I think would be a "reasoanble" price from an end-user, it'd be a good move since the name would most likely be developed into a good functional site and would help further establish and promote the tld. And, that in the long run, will help with the value and prospects of several prime names that I'd be keeping myself for long-term business ventures.

 

[Tee]

That whole lr1 was so depressing. You just knew the whole (most of it) thing would have to be done again - what a waste of time and money. The tales that could be told...

To dryheat - I see you really like .us. I think its great too. I like .info a lot but I get carried away sometimes with my arguments for it - its just when dealing with such a strong pro .com membership, who sometimes wont give anything a chance, for sometimes dubious reasons and with very dubious arguments like the infamous "just like .tv" , I get carried away sometimes. I think all things being equal, .info makes sense on the medium that is heavily used for obtaining information of some sort. Whether info really catches on remains to be seen. The registry seems to be lying low.

One thing I don't like about .info, other than the registries lack of any apparent promotion, is the visual of the extension. Not what it signifies (which is extremely important), but the way it looks. Its very jagged looking, with i and f and has 4 characters and two syllables. It doesn't have .coms sheer smoothness and roundness. .Com might make a good mantra for meditation. It does sound nice and look good, in addition to it being branded as meaning internet due to it being used as the first commercial/business/everything extension so long ago.

As far as .us goes, which many seem to feel is the second .com because it is a united states thing just like .com was initially/still with .us even more so a united states thing, I think it will do well. Maybe you are right even, it may eclipse the other new tlds, info, biz and maybe .cn and .eu later.

I have a few decent .us names, one I want to sell. Would you .us fans give me your honest opinion of them? I've posted them before but not many give an opinion - maybe because one is somewhat naughty... I get offers for one all the time, but I'm not sure if what I ask for is realistic...

How would you appraise:

ass.us (one I want to sell)

amplifiers.us

tablature.us (this one I'm not sure about)

singing.us (I dont like this one - thinking of dropping it)


You know, I waited just 30 seconds and lost rings.us. That would have been a good one...


Anybody ever get the feeling that there are too many damn extensions?

 

[CoolHost.com]

"Anybody ever get the feeling that there are too many damn extensions?"

Yup. And, to me, it's all about (Registrar) G-R-E-E-D!
Good Luck.

 

[Tee]

Btw, clinical.info - great name, I'd say 3-5k right now.

Good luck!