Anunt (uglypeople.com myspace scammer back)

[Gerry]

dnf is not namespro's and we ban scammers, theives and crooks...well here's another chance to keep that stance.

True, otherwise it was just blah, blah, blah.

 

[DN BROKER]

I have reported this thread and asked for Adam to post a comment.

 

[katherine]

Maybe this will addressed now that Adam is back. I would be surprised if no action was taken.
There is still the option to crash his threads.

 

[Gerry]

Must be on another IP because I thought IP's are blocked preventing banned members from registering.

Of course, using another IP is not a difficult thing to do or obtain.

 

[james2002]

I don't know whether he should be given second chance.

Even many very dangerous criminals got released into the community at one point. He may have regretted about his action by now.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

I don't know whether he should be given second chance.

Even many very dangerous criminals got released into the community at one point. He may have regretted about his action by now.

What regret? Regret he could have joined again sooner perhaps, regret he didnt screw over more people that time...please, unless he paid back each member what he took from them there is no second chance imo. If he had to do that he would THEN regret his actions. He has made enough money from the money he wrongfully obtained to pay them back.Where is the bleeding heart forgoive me thread I am scum and so on.

He needs to be banned again (for a 3rd time) for trying to sneak back again for a second time where he is not welcome due to his own actions alone.

 

[DNWizardX9]

If he regretted his actions then he would pay the people affected back.

 

[james2002]

What regret? Regret he could have joined again sooner perhaps, regret he didnt screw over more people that time...please, unless he paid back each member what he took from them there is no second chance imo. If he had to do that he would THEN regret his actions. He has made enough money from the money he wrongfully obtained to pay them back.

I don't want to argue with you. But the buyers who lost their money back then took their chances knowing that those domains infringe the copyrights and it was also partly their fault as well.

I don't care even if he is banned again. My point of view was that even more dangerous people got released back into the community after serving sometime.

Would be interested to know Adam's decision.

 

[DNWizardX9]

Many of these people are college students and a few thousand dollars is alot of mone to them.. as well as most people

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

I don't want to argue with you. But the buyers who lost their money back then took their chances knowing that those domains infringe the copyrights and it was also partly their fault as well.

I am sorry but you are 110% dead wrong!

I am not judging anyones investment strategy or are typos right or wrong, I merely am looking at the facts.

He knownly sold names he already received a C&D etc on, that is so wrong it goes beyond wrong, it is disgusting!

The buyers factor their risk of receiving a C&D in the name when buying, that in part is what market value is determined by... that value is also based on there being NO C&D's etc at time of purchase. Should such a issue arise after, that is the buyers problem, they know the risk.

At NO TIME should the risk be the seller failing to disclose such important information. It is nothing more than theft, malice to the nth degree!

A girl who allows herself to become drunk in a bar doesn't deserve rape and likewise a buyer of a typo or sensitive name does not deserve being deceived out of funds when buying.

If such a member who receives C&D's etc on names and has no issue with quickly dumping them to dnf members with no regret and no restitution is allowed back, god help us. You can purchase NOTHING from such a person without knowing if it is already part of a legal suit, C&D etc.

 

[james2002]

I am sorry but you are 110% dead wrong!

I am not judging anyones investment strategy or are typos right or wrong, I merely am looking at the facts.

He knownly sold names he already received a C&D etc on, that is so wrong it goes beyond wrong, it is disgusting!

The buyers factor their risk of receiving a C&D in the name when buying, that in part is what market value is determined by... that value is also based on there being NO C&D's etc at time of purchase. Should such a issue arise after, that is the buyers problem, they know the risk.

At NO TIME should the risk be the seller failing to disclose such important information. It is nothing more than theft, malice to the nth degree!

A girl who allows herself to become drunk in a bar doesn't deserve rape and likewise a buyer of a typo or sensitive name does not deserve being deceived out of funds when buying.

In that case, all those criminals should be locked up forever in the prisons. Many of them have done ever worse crimes and they should not be back in the community then?

In domain market, not everyone plays with copyright infringing domains.

 

[katherine]

I don't want to argue with you. But the buyers who lost their money back then took their chances knowing that those domains infringe the copyrights and it was also partly their fault as well.

Yes, buying TM domains is risky. But he misrepresented the sale in a major way.
He just didn't assume the risk like a grown-up, instead he passed the jinx on to somebody else.

I don't care even if he is banned again. My point of view was that even more dangerous people got released back into the community after serving sometime.

Yes, but preferably not into the community where their misdeeds took place. That community does not have to welcome him back.

He never apologized to his victims. He is unrepentant.
He never made an attempt to refund his victims yet he seems to be doing well with domains. It's not like he's broke.
He nuked his reputation for a few grands (peanuts to him).
He screwed members, but for him it's just business.

The whole point of banning scammers is to protect the members. The veterans remember about this guy but others could fall prey.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

Very well put.

 

[A D]

Just found this thread and I will deal with it tomorrow.

...but I can tell you I will be looking at his actions now not 5-7 years ago.

Adam

 

[james2002]

Yes, buying TM domains is risky. But he misrepresented the sale in a major way.
He just didn't assume the risk like a grown-up, instead he passed the jinx on to somebody else.

Yes, but preferably not into the community where their misdeeds took place. That community does not have to welcome him back.

He never apologized to his victims. He is unrepentant.
He never made an attempt to refund his victims yet he seems to be doing well with domains. It's not like he's broke.
He nuked his reputation for a few grands (peanuts to him).
He screwed members, but for him it's just business.

The whole point of banning scammers is to protect the members. The veterans remember about this guy but others could fall prey.

Understand. I didn't say he didn't do wrong at all. What he did was bad. I didn't go through the thread where he sold the domains in very detail. Did he say he didn't receive C & D letter. I thought he just said "I need money" repeatedly. I may be wrong.

I don't want to argue with you, all. It's upto Adam who would decide to ban him or not. I was just thinking about second chance. My point was even very dangerous criminals got released back into community where many people are very vulnerable but in dnforum, many domainers got a reasonable knowledge to point out suspicious sales etc..... and may be less vulnerable.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

Just found this thread and I will deal with it tomorrow.

...but I can tell you I will be looking at his actions now not 5-7 years ago.

Adam

Time is here nor there.

And he has neither asked for forgiveness, made restitution or proved anything to anyone as to his current character, unless you know him on a close personal level we don't know about.

My friends were ripped off by this guy, he used that money to fund a large purchase and continue, seeing him here is a slap in the face of many members.

Here is a sketch found in his facebook album, speaks volumes, rather ironic isn't it.

View attachment welcome-to-sales.jpg

 

[DNWizardX9]

Adam I'm sure if someone ripped you off $10,000 5 years ago they wouldn't be allowed back on the forum

 

[A D]

Adam I'm sure if someone ripped you off $10,000 5 years ago they wouldn't be allowed back on the forum

No probably not, I will review the facts tomorrow and look at the old threads and if a ban is needed, it will be done.

Adam

 

[VirtualT]

The deal is anyone can do anything to anyone on DNF, and it's condoned. No need to even discuss bans of anyone who is simply a thief.

This has always been the case at least for as long as I have been here. I reported being scammed by legend.name to the tune of $5K, this apparently wasn't enough to receive a ban either..

Many slag NP for being to ban happy, lol DNF is the exact opposite its impossible to get banned except by infractions.

 

[jasdon11]

Just found this thread and I will deal with it tomorrow.

...but I can tell you I will be looking at his actions now not 5-7 years ago.

Adam

So that's the time span of DNF absolution?