Big Trouble with the 95K sale of MarketIVA.mobi

[H2FC]

If the email is real, sedo will just hand over the domain to the legal owner.
They probably waited for the domain to sell before striking, as now it makes the seller look like he was just in it to make a quick buck.
I've recently started checking ALL trademarks for .mobi domains i may purchase, just incase, its just not worth the hassle.
I hope this seller manages to sort something out.If the domain does indeed belong to the .com, then i don't think they'll persue it as long as they get their domain, it wouldnt be worth them damaging their image for what they could possibly squeeze out of you in damages.

The email looks fishy to me. Especially with this statement "Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of Marketiva Corporation, its subsidiaries and affiliates. For more information please visit our corporate web site at http://www.marketiva.com/" I can't believe a company as big as MarketIVA.com would not have one of their attorneys handle such issues and I don't believe they would include such a statement in their letter. I suspect MarketIVA.com was one of the losing bidders.

IVA shows 113,000,000 results on google and thats what makes the name so valuable IMHO. Surely somebody checked out the TM issue before they started bidding tens of thousands of $$ for the name.

 

[Focus]

It's just a hater being a hater, the deal should go thru and all should be well I hope for the seller, obviously sedo just handles the sale and escrow and is'nt in anyway responsible imo nor do they have the right to "hold a name hostage" or decide who it goes to over an email from an angry company..that's what UDRP is for and the processes outlined by ICANN, I put up with BS all the time even at lower mid $x,xxx sale levels, had someone try to muck up my one word generic deal the other day right here on DNF, why? Jealousy! lol I bet they got outbid...

 

[PRED]

Actually you're right,
Sedo will probably hold onto it until after the WIPO decission.

Sedo can't do anything like that.
For starters the domain owner has control of the name via dns etc
Also ownership in the whois.
Sedo can do nothing.
I don't know all the deatils of small print, but if a buyer doesn't pay quick, you can walk, 10 days i think.
If he pays quick then great.
I think a hoax, either way, like Mocus says, this is what icann rules & wipo rules are for. It takes ages. The seller just needs to try & wrap up quick imo.
Pred

 

[Fearless]

Tell them to choose one of these;

MARKETIVA.VG
MARKETIVA.ORG.UK
MARKETIVA.CO.NZ
MARKETIVA.TW
MARKETIVA.COM.TW
MARKETIVA.ORG.TW
MARKETIVA.IDV.TW
MARKETIVA.FM

All available for reg fee.

This is enough info to know $95K will not be paid. A better indication is they are still available 12 hours after this was posted.

 

[H2FC]

This is enough info to know $95K will not be paid. A better indication is they are still available 12 hours after this was posted.

I would tend to agree except how do you account for 4 different bidders wanting the name bad enough to bid tens of thousands of $$ for it?

 

[PRED]

IF, & it is a big IF, it is a geniune email/approach from the com owners......
it could mean that big companies are starting to realise they want the com & mobi variant.
Now that really would be sweet, sweet music :lol:
Pred

 

[Focus]

Or if this turns into a REALLY BIG DEAL and there is a huge legal fuss over it, I would think it would bring ALOT of end user attention to the .mobi market

 

[H2FC]

I just noticed iMarketIVA.mobi in the sedo featured domains with a "make offer" sign.

 

[touchring]

I would tend to agree except how do you account for 4 different bidders wanting the name bad enough to bid tens of thousands of $$ for it?

Can a person register 4 different accounts and bid on his own name? Maybe using a web proxy?

 

[gingeman]

edit: decided I don't want invoved. Lets just say I have been waiting for this thread...

 

[PRED]

I just noticed iMarketIVA.mobi in the sedo featured domains with a "make offer" sign.

LOL

 

[H2FC]

I was just told by MarketIVA.com the 'IVA' has no particular meaning. MarketIVA is a forex trading corporation and apparently they have nothing to do with 'Individual Voluntary Arrangements'. They also have IVAmarket.com pointing to their website in a foreign language but it can be changed to english. They are a very large corporation.

My question is...assuming they do have a TM on the MarketIVA name (which I'm not so sure of) would that TM automatically include the IVAmarket name as well?

This is important to me because I am the registered owner of IVAmarkets.com, IVAmarkets.mobi and IVAmarket.mobi. I also have MarketIVAs.com and mobi.

Of course my IVA's mean 'Individual Voluntary Arrangements' and 'IVA' shows 113,000,000 google results compared to only 363,000 for MarketIVA and 1,490,000 for market IVA when the IVA is separated. Obviously 'Individual Voluntary Arrangements' (IVA) is much more widely known than marketIVA. Remember, they have admitted to me their name has nothing to do with 'Individual Voluntary Arrangements' so it seems to me I have a right to these names. What do you think?

 

[Laird Mobi]

If your gonna hold onto them make sure you don't have any stock market ad's it will fuel the fire, just use keywords such as debt consolidation etc etc that should satisfy the jury that it isn't a cybersquatter at work although having ivamarket etc etc your probably in the firing line!!!!! It's not a uk term unless its about IVA's.

 

[namestrands]

I would continue with the sale, SEDO themselves will do Due Diligence to confirm if the claim is valid.

Its a weak case even if genuine. Just as Laird Mobi said.. Make sure that the parking keywords are non related to the complainant.

Tell them to file a UDRP, I would be suspicious of anything not coming from a verifiable legal entity

My question is...assuming they do have a TM on the MarketIVA name (which I'm not so sure of) would that TM automatically include the IVAmarket name as well?

Only if they use that name in commerce and they can testify to that with documented proof.

 

[bwhhisc]

This was posted by someone I think you all know, Rubber Duck.
This was to be expected.

This email was NOT posted by Rubber Duck but rather on a thread started by Mohammad (the seller) himself asking for advice. The Duck did comment on the thread, and had started a thread earlier as the sale climbed in value.

Comments on the email were that many thought it strange that the letter did not come from someone in Marketiva legal department, or a lawyer representing them.

Or if this turns into a REALLY BIG DEAL and there is a huge legal fuss over it, I would think it would bring ALOT of end user attention to the .mobi market

Or maybe good publicity for MARKETIVA, and their affiliates worldwide.
Forex anyone...imagine how many now know the company name and business.

 

[Muhammad Mustafa]

how are you all here, i hope every body here is fine
i just saw this topic now and would really want to thank every body here, every information and advice i get here in DNF and at IDNF really helped me very well, i really would like to thank every body here and in any where helped me in this issue ..
for now i didn't receive anything from Marketiva or from Sedo, but i think the name won't be sold after all of that .. after all advices and information i get i won't do anything tell Sedo send me to start transection of the domain or to cancel it
its not a matter now the name is be sold or not i belive its the will of allah and that allah only make good things for us
i just want to have answers for the same Q. you all asked, marketiva was the winner bidder, one of the losers bidder or wasn't at the auction at all .. just want to know
many thanks to dmtalk who opened this topic to get help for me, mustafa who supported me as well as a brother, Rubber Duck who gave me very pretty advices and last but not least every one of you who really helped me very will with their advices, thanks you all

oh, i think almost very one here don't know me .. am the owner of Marketiva.mobi
bye bye 95k :sigh2:

 

[yoyosean]

i dont understand what you are saying muhammad is the sale not going through or is it going through?

 

[Fearless]

i dont understand what you are saying muhammad is the sale not going through or is it going through?

Only if allah steps in.

 

[Muhammad Mustafa]

yoyosean, am not sure of what happening now .. i didn't receive any thing from Sedo yet i just waiting and see what will happen

 

[yoyosean]

arent they waiting for the money from the buyer that is usually what happens go to your sedo account and click view transactions