City TLDs coming now?

[RegFee]

Where will the line be drawn?
.berlin might be fine, but .Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrob wllllantysiliogogogoch would be a nightmare.

 

[fischermx]

hmmm...better go reg some 5 numbers on myself...hehe

So, that gave me some itch and went and checked up some well known zips.
To my surprise, 90210.us was available at whois.sc .... yeah, right, it was wating for me, poor idiot .... it was not of course.

Why whois.sc play us these jokes so often ? :huh:

 

[Sarcle]

I don't think ICANN cares if they are used for websites or not. As long as suckers buy them what do they care? And the suckers will keep on coming as long as everyone believes they can just reg. a name and make a million on a domain name. When all they are doing is making ICANN rich. ICANN the greedy bastards.

 

[Rubber Duck]

I'm against new domains, in fact I think we need to remove all existing country TLD's and make some contenental TLD. I mean common, theres like 50 ccTLD for countries inn Africa, how many domains total are registered for all ccTLD for african countried combined. I'll stake my life on less then a million, common, is it really worth it. www.yahoo.af (africa) is better then having 50 yahoo's for 50 countries. IMHO

The question is not whether it benefits you or even the wider domain community, but whether it will provide a service to the residents of the that country either now or in the future. Clearly, Africa is a long way behind the US in terms of web development, but it would not be difficult to envisage some 50M users in 10-15years time. Would it be fair to hamper such development simply because you personally have no use for ccTLDs?

Furthemore, your argument over Yahoo.af is senseless due to the large numbers of different languages spoken. OK, even if you pooh-pooh much of the language diversity, you would have to acknowledge Arabic, French and Portuguese as being commercially significant.


Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

I don't think ICANN cares if they are used for websites or not. As long as suckers buy them what do they care? And the suckers will keep on coming as long as everyone believes they can just reg. a name and make a million on a domain name. When all they are doing is making ICANN rich. ICANN the greedy bastards.

This argument is totally fatuous as it works on the assumption that most registrations are speculative and most speculators are naive.

Dave Wrixon

 

[Sarcle]

This argument is totally fatuous as it works on the assumption that most registrations are speculative and most speculators are naive.

Dave Wrixon

Actually it's not. Have you see the costs for registering these new names compared to .com or .net? At $119 a pop plus a $39 dollar registration fee you can get a .jobs domain at godaddy. I would say that is highly speculative. Not to mention $60-$80 at most registars for .XXX that isn't going to solve any problem whatsoever.

As far as "most" speculators being naive I never said that. I said a lot of suckers that believe they can make a million dollars, and there are a lot of them out there. Have you seen TDNAM or SEDO or EBAY or The RegisterFly Market, or any big Droplist? There are millions of names that will go no where.
So yeah I would say alot are naive, most domainers do have a balance, but as long as you got the THOUSANDS and thousands of idiots buying ten million .XXX or .crap that costs 60-$80 a domain for sdflksdf.xxx. Which by the way is speculation thats what we do and thats what registers and ICANN do.

 

[Rubber Duck]

Actually it's not. Have you see the costs for registering these new names compared to .com or .net? At $119 a pop plus a $39 dollar registration fee you can get a .jobs domain at godaddy. I would say that is highly speculative. Not to mention $60-$80 at most registars for .XXX that isn't going to solve any problem whatsoever.

As far as "most" speculators being naive I never said that. I said a lot of suckers that believe they can make a million dollars, and there are a lot of them out there. Have you seen TDNAM or SEDO or EBAY or The RegisterFly Market, or any big Droplist? There are millions of names that will go no where.
So yeah I would say alot are naive, most domainers do have a balance, but as long as you got the THOUSANDS and thousands of idiots buying ten million .XXX or .crap that costs 60-$80 a domain for sdflksdf.xxx. Which by the way is speculation thats what we do and thats what registers and ICANN do.

Well, that makes more sense. Clearly, if you are speculating on domains there is a huge attraction to use a popular registry like dot com, where not only is there likely to be demand for the extension, but the costs do not preclude any possibility of making a profit. I am dropping most of my dot cn tv cc etc for this very reason. The risks associated with this kind of speculation demand a high potential return and if the renewal costs are too high then that cannot happen.

Such high costs, however, may be acceptable for a company using the domain for a website that is capable of generating sustaintial revenues. If the required keywords are not available in dot com without spending thousands of dollars, it may be justifiable to register those keywords with another registry.

At the end of the day, it should be about freedom of choice and open competition. The high fee registeries will have to get real if they are to expand significantly. The successful registeries will ultimately those that offer some kind of value and that will include a competitive price. I do not believe that it is ICANNs responsibility to control fees and these will be best controlled by ensuring competition.

The expansion of the number of registries is in my view essential, as the total of number of domains that will ultimately be registered worldwide is likely to be at least ten-times the total number registered presently. Having said that many of the drossy English Language dot coms that have been registered will eventually be allowed to expire. The real area of expansion for dot coms will be foriegn languages and IDNs. Whilst the internet may be showing signs of maturing in the US, much of the world has hardly even left the starting blocks.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon