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and ConfederateFlag.US..

DNSkidds "Union.US" got me thinking..I was suprised these were still available , I reged them tonight..


Not sure what to do with ConfederateFlag.US ....If I could write, I think it would be great to do a piece on the conflict of views on it .. for some it is a symbol of pride for others of repression and pain...

But it is a part of the US...

of course the domain still has to pay for itself so I'd sell books on the civil war I guess...

Appraisals would be appreciated
 

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YIKES!
What do you plan on doing with that?

That has Ignorance written all over it.

Cheers!
 

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Originally posted by mudfence
YIKES!
What do you plan on doing with that?

That has Ignorance written all over it.

Cheers!
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Yikes ?

Ignorance?

The Confederate Flag does not represent "ignorance" yes it has been EXPLOITED by those who are IGNORANT...
 

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The American Flag can represent the same feeling of Pain in native americans....

yet we dont claim the american flag represents ignorance ...do we ..
 

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Originally posted by bidawinner
The American Flag can represent the same feeling of Pain in native americans....

yet we dont claim the american flag represents ignorance ...do we ..

It depends. I think the american flag stands for ignorance too.
We're only human.

Why dig up the dog?

Sell it to someone in west Idaho. Thats probably your best market.

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Originally posted by mudfence


It depends. I think the american flag stands for ignorance too.
We're only human.

Why dig up the dog?

Sell it to someone in west Idaho. Thats probably your best market.

Cheers!

So which Flag do you think dosent stand for ignorance !
 

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Lets try again..anyone want to try and place an price ...
 

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Originally posted by DrWho
$30

Thanks who..

I am taken back that these domains arent bring more comments.. some flame , some rednecks, some anger some damn emotions ..

something !

MOST US families had family that fought on both sides of our civil war the the middle 1800's ...

I'm not a civil war expert by any means but I always enjoy reading and watching history channel type stuff on the civil war..

it's amazing to step back in time and discover who we were ...and how we have changed...


I'm not sure if the names are hitting a nerve or the most here simply dont care about history..if thats the case it's a real shame....


Anyways.. I think the monetary value is closer to 1K if not more..

do me a favor and look closely at what all the "confederate" searches are for http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/

Looks like antique dealers that specialize in civil war stuff would be the end buyer..
 

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As far as making a profit, it could be a site about Civil War Memorabilia and the best market for it would probably be in the Deep South. But a name like Confederates.us might stir up so much negative publicity - that the negative publicity might defeat the efforts to develop the site and get the traffic needed for sales.


I do understand and respect that the Confederacy and Confederate flag - are symbols of pride for some people (especially in the majority of the US).

But for those in the minority (namely African Americans), the Confederacy and Confederate flag represents physical slavery, economic slavery, and Jim Crowe.

The confederate flag also represents some of the current discrimination that minorities face in today's society. Today's society is much more tolerant of different cultures and is much better than it was in 1965, but blacks and other minorities still face discrimination in certain regions. The mechanism of how discrimination is carried out has changed to a "covert" style now such that unfair treatment still goes on - but minorities cannot prove the CAUSATION on the claim. (i.e. that the unfair treatment was caused by or motivated by racism).

I often see and hear conversations by people on the internet or just in public reminiscing about the good ole days of the Civil War time period and Civil War memorabilia. Raising of sunken Civil War ships even still makes the news headlines on CNN.

However, no one wants to talk about the social prejudicE, racial hatred, and brutal lynchings of blacks that was associated with those times of Civil War. Those might have been the good ole' days for those in the majority, but for blacks and other minorities - those were days of hardship, oppression, and brutal treatment. No one wants to talk about that though.

So I'll just conclude by saying that I, personally, would not visit a site called Confederates. us for any reason because that term symbolizes hate and oppression to me.

But I could see how others (especially in the majority) might visit a site like Confederates.us to shop for Civil war memorabilia or discuss civil war topics. But to be successful, such a site would have to be presented in such a way as to not stir up feelings of hate and negative publicity.

I think a way to not get so much negative press about the site would be to go ahead and sell your civil war memorabilia, or discuss the civil war. But also acknowledge the fact that there were great atrocities and social injustices during that time period for blacks and other minorities; And that these atrocities should never be repeated again.
 

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nice name.i love history,good are bad

yes harold,and no one ever wants to talk about this either

SLAVERY in the NORTH

African slavery is so much the outstanding feature of the South, in the unthinking view of it, that people often forget there had been slaves in all the old colonies. Slaves were auctioned openly in the Market House of Philadelphia; in the shadow of Congregational churches in Rhode Island; in Boston taverns and warehouses; and weekly, sometimes daily, in Merchant's Coffee House of New York.

African bondage in the colonies north of the Mason-Dixon Line has left a legacy in the economics of modern America and in the racial attitudes of the U.S. working class. Yet comparatively little is written about the 200-year history of Northern slavery. Slavery in the North never reached anywhere near the numbers of the South. It was, numerically, a drop in the bucket compared to the South. But the South, comparatively, was itself a drop in the bucket of New World slavery. Some 500,000 slaves were brought to the United States (or the colonies it was built from) in the history of the slave trade, which is a mere fraction of the estimated 10 million Africans forced to the Americas during that period.

Over time, slavery flourished in the South and failed in the North, except in New York City and southern New Jersey. This had little to do with morality and much to do with climate and economy. When the Northern states gave up the last remnants of legal slavery, in the generation after the Revolution, their motives were a mix of piety, morality, and ethics; fear of a growing black population; practical economics; and the fact that the Revolutionary War had broken the Northern slaveowners' power. But in the generally conservative, local process of emancipating a small number of Northern slaves, the Northern leadership turned its back on slavery as a national problem.

Northern slavery grew out of the paradox the new continent presented to its European masters. So much land was available, so cheaply, that no one was willing to come to America and sign on to work as a laborer. The dream that drew Europeans across the Atlantic was to own acres of land or make a fortune in trade or a craft. It was a reasonable expectation. In the 1680s a landless Welsh peasant from the mountains of Montgomeryshire could bring his whole family to Pennsylvania for £10 and acquire 250 acres for another £5; placing just one son in a trade in Britain would have cost the family £7.

Yet workers were needed to clear the land, work the soil, build the towns, and exploit the new continent. Because of this acute labor shortage, all the American colonies turned to compulsory labor. In New Netherland, in the 1640s, a free European worker could expect to be paid 280 guilders a year, plus food and lodging. In the same time and place, experienced African slaves from the West Indies could be bought outright, for life, for 300 guilders.

"To claim that the colonies would not have survived without slaves would be a distortion," historian Edgar McManus writes, "but there can be no doubt that the development was significantly speeded by their labor. They provided the basic working force that transformed shaky outposts of empire into areas of permanent settlement." [1]

Or, to consider the situation from a broad view of the entire New World, "... export agriculture and effective colonization would not have occurred on the scale it did if enslaved Africans had not been brought to the New World. Except for precious metals, almost all major American exports to Europe were produced by Africans." [2]

Every New World colony was, in some sense, a slave colony. French Canada, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Cuba, Brazil -- all of them made their start in an economic system built upon slavery based on race. In all of them, slavery enjoyed the service of the law and the sanction of religion. In all of them the master class had its moments of doubt, and the slaves plotted to escape or rebel.

Roughly speaking, in New England black slaves were a valuable shipping commodity that soon proved useful at home, both in large-scale agriculture and in ship-building. The Mid-Atlantic colonies -- New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania -- had been under Dutch rule before the British conquered them in 1664, and there African slavery had been actively encouraged by the Dutch authorities. This was continued by the British.

Both the Dutch and English colonists in the North prefered to get their slaves from other New World colonies, rather than directly from Africa. Direct imports from Africa were considered too dangerous and difficult. Instead, the middle colonies originally sought their African slaves from Dutch Curaçao and later from British Jamaica and Barbados. "These slaves were familiar with Western customs and habits of work, qualities highly prized in a region where masters and slaves worked and lived in close proximity." [3] They also were more inured to Northern winters, which incapacitated or killed those direct from Africa. Both reasons contributed to the adjective often used to advertise West Indies slaves being sold in the North: "seasoned."

By the late colonial period, the average slave-owning household in New England and the Mid-Atlantic seems to have had about 2 slaves. Estates of 50 or 60 slaves were rare, but did exist in the Hudson Valley, eastern Connecticut, and the Narragansett region of Rhode Island. But the Northern climate set some barriers to large-scale agricultural slavery. The long winters, which brought no income on Northern farms, made slaves a burden for many months of the year, unless they could be hired out to chop wood or tend livestock. Unlike Southern plantations, Northern slavery tended to be urban.


"Slaveholding reflected social as well as economic standing, for in colonial times servants and retainers were visible symbols of rank and distinction. The leading families of Massachusetts and Connecticut used slaves as domestic servants, and in Rhode Island, no prominent household was complete without a large staff of black retainers. New York's rural gentry regarded the possession of black coachmen and footmen as an unmistakable sign of social standing. In Boston, Philadelphia, and New York the mercantile elite kept retinues of household slaves. Their example was followed by tradesmen and small retailers until most houses of substance had at least one or two domestics." [4]

In fact, the mounting Pennsylvania Quaker testimony against slavery in the 1750s and '60s was in large part aimed against the luxuriousness and extravagance of the Friends who had domestic slaves.
 

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Domain Name: Confederates.US
Google Hits: "120,000"
Market Rating: 1.0
Length: 12
Extension Rating: 2.0
Length Rating: 2.0
Popular Rating: 1.0
Composite: 1.44
High Retail $: $10.00
Low Retail $: $7.50
Wholesale$: $2.25
 

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Originally posted by Domaingrat
Domain Name: Confederates.US
Google Hits: "120,000"
Market Rating: 1.0
Length: 12
Extension Rating: 2.0
Length Rating: 2.0
Popular Rating: 1.0
Composite: 1.44
High Retail $: $10.00
Low Retail $: $7.50
Wholesale$: $2.25


Get out of here with that nonsense..

"Google hits" you Guys dont even know what you are talking about..

Ban the "cooltool" newbies are being mislead that it actaul means anything..
 

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Originally posted by Domaingrat
Domain Name: Confederates.US
Google Hits: "120,000"
Market Rating: 1.0
Length: 12
Extension Rating: 2.0
Length Rating: 2.0
Popular Rating: 1.0
Composite: 1.44
High Retail $: $10.00
Low Retail $: $7.50
Wholesale$: $2.25

Domaingrat I apologize..I have been in a real crappy mood last couple days..

I am going to assume you think the "cool tool" is really a great way to appraise names ..but the reality is while it is kind of interesting; it real has no value in placing value on domains..


Appraising domains are like more like art than a science.. and if it were a science it would have to include hundreds of variables not 8...

I apologize for snapping at you...

have a good day..
 

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Hush-my-mouth this one made me pull off my white hood and pray to Jesus.

Dixie will rise again.

Gotta go, there's a six-pack of Pabst to drink and someone's breaking into my trailer.
 

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Originally posted by mindful
Hush-my-mouth this one made me pull off my white hood and pray to Jesus.

Dixie will rise again.

Gotta go, there's a six-pack of Pabst to drink and someone's breaking into my trailer.


Typical ignorance...
 
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