Do you still believe that there are low quality letters?

[italiandragon]

(dedicated to my friend Acroplex k: )

Check this then:

http://www.qxwz.com


Again, people take note that in the World there are many more countries other than the USA. And many more languages other than English.

And actually as www.internetworldstats.com is showing, the internet users in Countries where English is not the spoken language, are increasing very much.

 

[dolansco]

qwxz.com is a known spyware site

courtesy of Spysweeper

 

[David G]

Yes I do (at least as far as acronym use goes combined with good quality English language traffic) there are the normal bad ones such as Q, X and Z but the 2 letters people usually overlook as being poor quality are J and K.

Some of the most frustrating times in my domaining career have been spending lots of time trying to find good acronym use for J and K domains and finally either giving up the search or using a low quality acronym.

 

[italiandragon]

Yes I do (at least as far as acronym use goes combined with good quality English language traffic) there are the normal bad ones such as Q, X and Z but the 2 letters people usually overlook as being poor quality are J and K.

Some of the most frustrating times in my domaining career have been spending lots of time trying to find good acronym use for J and K domains and finally either giving up the search or using a low quality acronym.

J like Jobs ?

K like Kansas or Korea , Kuala Lumpur , Kiribati ?

courtesy of Spysweeper

OK, let`s pass on this one, I`ll come up with a better list on chinese developed ones.

Just give me a few days.

 

[David G]

The problems I had with J and K were quality acronym use combined with the exact order of the letters in all the 3 and 4 letter domains I researched. With good letters the exact order of the letters I have learned is not too important because I can almost always find good acronyms regardless of the letter order and also in good paying categories (and English language use) but with J and K domains I found it impossible.

 

[italiandragon]

The problems I had with J and K were quality acronym use combined with the exact order of the letters in all the 3 and 4 letter domains I researched. With good letters the exact order of the letters I have learned is not too important because I can almost always find good acronyms regardless of the letter order and also in good paying categories (and English language use) but with J and K domains I found it impossible.

I understand that but you base your acronyms on the English language.

Have you tried in CHinese, German, Russian, Polish , Korean or French just FOR EXAMPLE?

My point is that, of course there are letters used less in each language but who cares? Do you care if your buyer does not speak English?

 

[domain newbie]

the only useless letter is "X"

 

[italiandragon]

First off all, the mentioned Premium letters have been decided by 1 U.S. website which then many U.S. domainers referred to.

This website did not take into consideration other relevant info that found that LLLL.com starting in W or U were among the first 5 letters.

Then many languages do not have the 26 letters of the English alphabet.
For example in Italian there are only 21 letters. There are no: J-K-X-W-Y

Always in Italian V is a very well used letter. Italians would hate the J-K and X more than any other.

In German the letter Z is a great letter.

Chinese love the Q and X but they don`t have the V.

A recent Poll here found that the letter U is considered by a majority of NP member to be Premium.

More info about the letter U:

- it`s one of the 5 vowels.

- according to this survey:

http://www.mcgees.org/fourletterdomains.html

the letter U has been the 4th preferred letter as starting letter:

Registration rate for domains beginning with a certain letter:
Most popular:
a: 72.7%
w: 70.4% (also here you can that the W was second!)
t: 68.0%
u: 66.4%
i: 66.3%

- and according to these statistics :

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=914452

the letter U in English is used more than letters like M , C and F and is right in the middle of the list (same in the italian language).
If we analise the stats regarding French and German , then the U is used even more.

I suppose that who wrote originally the 3 char price guide has done this little mistake and since that all domainers followed that mistake. Why do we need to follow something that is incorrect?

As you can see, it`s totally difficult to establish only what was considered reliable several years ago when internet users were mainly from the USA.

 

[David G]

No, did not look at those languages and yes, I do in fact care the potential buyers and clicks speak or read English because ppc firms and/or potential product/service sales become major negatives because English based language traffic is valued significantly higher. In addition, some places do not even count foreign traffic as valid in the stats.

Websites selling ads or services intended for those nations are best using the respective country codes such as .cn .fr .ru etc.

I understand that but you base your acronyms on the English language.

Have you tried in CHinese, German, Russian, Polish , Korean or French just FOR EXAMPLE?

My point is that, of course there are letters used less in each language but who cares? Do you care if your buyer does not speak English?

 

[italiandragon]

No, did not look at those languages and yes, I do in fact care the potential buyers and clicks speak or read English because ppc firms and/or potential product/service sales become major negatives because English based language traffic is valued significantly higher. In addition, some places do not even count foreign traffic as valid in the stats.

Websites selling ads or services intended for those nations are best using the respective country codes such as .cn .fr .ru etc.

But as the USSR disappeared, even these things could change soon in the future and maybe even the US would start using .us ?

 

[gjsys]

There are no bad letters unless one applies his/her native language as a judge of value. What's considered bad in English is acceptable - good in Chinese/Mandarin or other languages.
With domaining or the general use of domains dramatically increasing in popularity, there are no bad letters any longer. Of course, if one tries to solely capitalize on one language, then you have letters of lesser quality, but in a global environment, speaking of bad letters in a domain would be downright foolish.

GJS

 

[katherine]

I will gladly take buyers from China for XQHK.com (not mine) but are there so many end users out there (statistically) ? Just a thought. But I get the point.
Concerning the so-called bad letters you have to look at the whole name. Sometimes the whole won't make a suitable acronym but could still be brandable. It all depends.

 

[Biggie]

the only useless letter is "X"

lol


i hope that statement was a joke.

First off all, the mentioned Premium letters have been decided by 1 U.S. website which then many U.S. domainers referred to.

This website did not take into consideration other relevant info that found that LLLL.com starting in W or U were among the first 5 letters.

Then many languages do not have the 26 letters of the English alphabet.
For example in Italian there are only 21 letters. There are no: J-K-X-W-Y

Always in Italian V is a very well used letter. Italians would hate the J-K and X more than any other.

In German the letter Z is a great letter.

Chinese love the Q and X but they don`t have the V.

A recent Poll here found that the letter U is considered by a majority of NP member to be Premium.

More info about the letter U:

- it`s one of the 5 vowels.

- according to this survey:

http://www.mcgees.org/fourletterdomains.html

the letter U has been the 4th preferred letter as starting letter:

Registration rate for domains beginning with a certain letter:
Most popular:
a: 72.7%
w: 70.4% (also here you can that the W was second!)
t: 68.0%
u: 66.4%
i: 66.3%

- and according to these statistics :

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=914452

the letter U in English is used more than letters like M , C and F and is right in the middle of the list (same in the italian language).
If we analise the stats regarding French and German , then the U is used even more.

I suppose that who wrote originally the 3 char price guide has done this little mistake and since that all domainers followed that mistake. Why do we need to follow something that is incorrect?

As you can see, it`s totally difficult to establish only what was considered reliable several years ago when internet users were mainly from the USA.

for some time I have been stating that there is no such thing as premium letters or premium numbers.

the points you're trying to make are already known by most domainers who got in the biz before price guides and disciptive adjectives such as "premium, triple premium, quad premium, double premium, certified premium, certified appraised by, etc. were used to hype the value or sale of a domain.

everyday more newbies come in the biz and they flock to trends, and many become victims because they don't read "in-between" the lines of the info.


I see a lot of domainers who pratice "negative advertising" on their own domains and don't even realize it.

as they disect their domains down to the individual letters/numbers, while devaluing the domain as is.

 

[katherine]

First off all, the mentioned Premium letters have been decided by 1 U.S. website which then many U.S. domainers referred to.

The website in question reflects reseller trends. While all letters are 'equal' some names are obviously more liquid than others and resellers will usually prefer the more liquid names

 

[Stian]

As long as the reseller market pays less for J, K, Q, U, V, W, X, Y, Z, then yes; - I believe there are "low quality" letters.

 

[VirtualT]

As long as the reseller market pays less for J, K, Q, U, V, W, X, Y, Z, then yes; - I believe there are "low quality" letters.

lol, exactly

 

[italiandragon]

Here , I found another 3 good examples :


http://qzxy.com/

http://zqyx.com/

http://wqxz.com/


Give them sometime and they`ll start to know how to buy your .com "crappy lettered domains"

 

[David G]

As long as the reseller market pays less for J, K, Q, U, V, W, X, Y, Z, then yes; - I believe there are "low quality" letters.

I consider U V W and possibly even Y to be ok letters, especially U which letter I like a lot with some excellent acronym sites I have based on U.

My opinion is that Q Z X J K are bad with Y being borderline.

 

[gjsys]

Very nice find ID!

It's a nice reminder that i sold my "crappy" quality letters a little too early for too little money. :disappointed:

GJS

 

[Credit]

For the next few years at least, there are crappy letters.

The only letter that I think is making a comeback is "u".