Domain Sale of Unusually Large Size

[DaddyHalbucks]

steen wrote:

Why live in HK?

Family? Culture? Just because he likes it more than Fremont?

I don't understand why you think he would prefer Fremont.

(Nothing against Fremont, Hong Kong, USA, China nor Britain) - Just curious why you would say that.


Internet is everywhere, maybe he spends 8 months of the year in Bolivia.
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Perhaps I am being provincial, but I just don't see China as very hospitable to entrepreneurs.

 

[Chaiki]

>>>>I hope in the future that we can limit human stupidity by putting a cap on people's income. There is not a single f*cking person on this planet that needs 100 million dollars.

This has to be the most communist, narrow-minded, anti capitalistic statement I've ever read on this forum. Maybe you can light a fire under the donkey running your treadmill generator and head over to the peasant farmer forum where anti-opportunistic comments like those are appreciated.

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

I hope in the future that we can limit human stupidity by putting a cap on people's income. There is not a single f*cking person on this planet that needs 100 million dollars.
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Yes, these people do need this money, every cent.

In many ways, they use the money to better society and to benefit us all.

They built the university that you attended, the company that made your car, the road you drive on, the company that made your PC, the company that made your PC operating system, the internet that we use to communicate, and even, the terrific hospital you go to when you are sick.

It wouldn't be possible without capitalism and rich folk, very rich folk.

 

[draqon]

i'm amused to hear you using the word 'communistic' like its an insult - its a refreshing throwback to the psuedo-intellectualism of the McCarthy years of the 1950s where every type of government or culture that was not like ours was seen as evil.

just a small piece of that money would save 50,000 lives and instead Yun Ye will probably spend it on meaingingless sh*t like $10,000 bottles of champagne, high class hookers and a yacht that he really truly does not need. Capitalism and the free-market economy can exist quite healthily without the unsustainable greed that ruins the planet. I suspect you are the sort of person who would wash up on an island with one other survivor, find the only source of food to be an apple tree, eat every single apple on the tree, and then tell the other survivor when he is starving that you are a believer in the free market system.

Our species is parasitic and stupid, and when we transcend all standards of logic and reason, we need to be saved from ourselves.

This has to be the most communist, narrow-minded, anti capitalistic statement I've ever read on this forum. Maybe you can light a fire under the donkey running your treadmill generator and head over to the peasant farmer forum where anti-opportunistic comments like those are appreciated.

Well, human greed is also responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of people by misleading them and addicting them (phillip morris), destroying sensitive environmental regions in the Amazon, polluting massive amounts of fresh water, etc etc. The people who think that our current models for capitalism and global population expansion are sustainable are not really smart enough to qualify as humans.

I hope in the future that we can limit human stupidity by putting a cap on people's income. There is not a single f*cking person on this planet that needs 100 million dollars.
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Yes, these people do need this money, every cent.

In many ways, they use the money to better society and to benefit us all.

They built the university that you attended, the company that made your car, the road you drive on, the company that made your PC, the company that made your PC operating system, the internet that we use to communicate, and even, the terrific hospital you go to when you are sick.

It wouldn't be possible without capitalism and rich folk, very rich folk.

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

dragon wrote:

i'm amused to hear you using the word 'communistic' like its an insult - its a refreshing throwback to the psuedo-intellectualism of the McCarthy years of the 1950s where every type of government or culture that was not like ours was seen as evil.

IT IS STILL VERY MUCH AN INSULT, TO ALL INTELLIGENT PERSONS. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO GLORIFY COMMUNISM ARE SILLY COLLEGE STUDENTS OR THIRD WORLD DICTATORS. COMMUNISM ENSLAVED AND MURDERED MILLIONS. READ ABOUT STALIN, FOR EXAMPLE.

just a small piece of that money would save 50,000 lives and instead Yun Ye will probably spend it on meaingingless sh*t like $10,000 bottles of champagne, high class hookers and a yacht that he really truly does not need.

YOU HAVE NO BASIS TO SAY SUCH THINGS. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DEFAME AND SLANDER YUN YE IN SUCH A WAY.

Capitalism and the free-market economy can exist quite healthily without the unsustainable greed that ruins the planet. I suspect you are the sort of person who would wash up on an island with one other survivor, find the only source of food to be an apple tree, eat every single apple on the tree, and then tell the other survivor when he is starving that you are a believer in the free market system.

Our species is parasitic and stupid, and when we transcend all standards of logic and reason, we need to be saved from ourselves.

THE WORLD IS NOT AS YOU SEE IT. THE WORLD IS *AS YOU ARE*

 

[Rubber Duck]

dragon wrote:

i'm amused to hear you using the word 'communistic' like its an insult - its a refreshing throwback to the psuedo-intellectualism of the McCarthy years of the 1950s where every type of government or culture that was not like ours was seen as evil.

IT IS STILL VERY MUCH AN INSULT, TO ALL INTELLIGENT PERSONS. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO GLORIFY COMMUNISM ARE SILLY COLLEGE STUDENTS OR THIRD WORLD DICTATORS. COMMUNISM ENSLAVED AND MURDERED MILLIONS. READ ABOUT STALIN, FOR EXAMPLE.

just a small piece of that money would save 50,000 lives and instead Yun Ye will probably spend it on meaingingless sh*t like $10,000 bottles of champagne, high class hookers and a yacht that he really truly does not need.

YOU HAVE NO BASIS TO SAY SUCH THINGS. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DEFAME AND SLANDER YUN YE IN SUCH A WAY.

Capitalism and the free-market economy can exist quite healthily without the unsustainable greed that ruins the planet. I suspect you are the sort of person who would wash up on an island with one other survivor, find the only source of food to be an apple tree, eat every single apple on the tree, and then tell the other survivor when he is starving that you are a believer in the free market system.

Our species is parasitic and stupid, and when we transcend all standards of logic and reason, we need to be saved from ourselves.

THE WORLD IS NOT AS YOU SEE IT. THE WORLD IS *AS YOU ARE*

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Go for him Daddy. What the hell a guy like that is doing on Domainer Forum beats the hell out of me. This game is all about using your wits to make a fast buck! Or loose your shirt according to your judgement. With views like that I would put money on what he will be doing.

Just about the only place that this kind of arguement is still be heard is the Ukraine and look what a mess that is!

Western wealth is has been built on a free market economy. Why begrudge a man a bottle of champagne. It only a drop of ferment fruit juice with a hell of lot of entrepreneurial know how behind it!

Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[draqon]

IT IS STILL VERY MUCH AN INSULT, TO ALL INTELLIGENT PERSONS. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO GLORIFY COMMUNISM ARE SILLY COLLEGE STUDENTS OR THIRD WORLD DICTATORS. COMMUNISM ENSLAVED AND MURDERED MILLIONS. READ ABOUT STALIN, FOR EXAMPLE.

Communism cannot enslave anyone. It is merely an economic model. People can enslave and murder millions, and it wasn't due to their economy but due to Stalin's moral bankruptcy. Certain places have successfully used communism, such as collective farms (kibbutz) in Israel. These places were run without anyone being mass murdered. I personally don't think communism is sustainable in the long-term because it goes against people's instincts for self-betterment. However, left unchecked, American-style capitalism will ruin the planet, remove all our natural resources, and leave 99% of the population in abject poverty while the top 1% drink $10,000 bottles of champagne.

YOU HAVE NO BASIS TO SAY SUCH THINGS. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DEFAME AND SLANDER YUN YE IN SUCH A WAY.

Actually it is neither slander or defamation of character to predict that a wealthy person will waste his money. That sort of statement is clearly protected by the first ammendmant. However, it is possibly slanderous for you to publically claim that I am slandering other people. Where's Howard Neu? Send in my lawyer!

THE WORLD IS NOT AS YOU SEE IT. THE WORLD IS *AS YOU ARE*

The world is a chubby, caucasion male from Wisconsin? Then we are all in trouble.

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Go for him Daddy. What the hell a guy like that is doing on Domainer Forum beats the hell out of me. This game is all about using your wits to make a fast buck! Or loose your shirt according to your judgement. With views like that I would put money on what he will be doing.

Just about the only place that this kind of arguement is still be heard is the Ukraine and look what a mess that is!

Western wealth is has been built on a free market economy. Why begrudge a man a bottle of champagne. It only a drop of ferment fruit juice with a hell of lot of entrepreneurial know how behind it!

Regards
Dave Wrixon

hello newbie, i wasn't aware that i had to adopt mainstream opionions just to remain here. i pay my membership fees just like everyone else. begruding a man a bottle of champagne seems absurd until you realize that the price of the bottle could have fed a starving family of 4 in paraguay for the next 2 years.

 

[Rubber Duck]

Communism cannot enslave anyone. It is merely an economic model. People can enslave and murder millions, and it wasn't due to their economy but due to Stalin's moral bankruptcy. Certain places have successfully used communism, such as collective farms (kibbutz) in Israel. These places were run without anyone being mass murdered. I personally don't think communism is sustainable in the long-term because it goes against people's instincts for self-betterment. However, left unchecked, American-style capitalism will ruin the planet, remove all our natural resources, and leave 99% of the population in abject poverty while the top 1% drink $10,000 bottles of champagne.



Actually it is neither slander or defamation of character to predict that a wealthy person will waste his money. That sort of statement is clearly protected by the first ammendmant. However, it is possibly slanderous for you to publically claim that I am slandering other people. Where's Howard Neu? Send in my lawyer!



The world is a chubby, caucasion male from Wisconsin? Then we are all in trouble.



hello newbie, i wasn't aware that i had to adopt mainstream opionions just to remain here. i pay my membership fees just like everyone else. begruding a man a bottle of champagne seems absurd until you realize that the price of the bottle could have fed a starving family of 4 in paraguay for the next 2 years.

Call that an intellectual arguement? It about as shallow as a muddy puddle. The theories that you are putting forward have been tested in the laboratory of human behaviour for much of the twentieth century at enourmous human cost. Only a Moron could come to the conclusion they are still viable. The biggest proponents of such theories have always been people that want to impose their views on other to secure the worlds natural resources, and look to what use they have put them. Freedom of speech you have been granted, by the very society you condemn. It is a priveledge, so is the right to make up ones mind about what you are saying. Don't expect too many people to listen.

Most entrepreneurs run businesses for the adrenaline rush of doing it. On average they work three times harder and contribute many more times to society than moaning minnies like you. If you think that the only reward they seek is to have a drunken orgy with tart, then you sense of values is so debase that you are clearly staining everyone else with your own bile.

Dave Wrixon

 

[mike031]

uh oh.. we have a major debate going on here!!! hehe..guys... look, yun ye, me.. you and everybody else can do whatever the hell they want.. make money, spend money, give away money.. it's upto you and nobody else.. sure there is lots of good people but there is always those few exceptions... what can you do? NOTHING.. just accept the fact and move on k: k: k:

 

[Chaiki]

>>>>Our species is parasitic and stupid, and when we transcend all standards of logic and reason, we need to be saved from ourselves.

Boy, it's a good thing we have individuals like you willing to put themselves in charge and save us all from ourselves. I'm curious why your-highness chose 100 million as the magic acceptable limit? I say we all take up a collection to purchase Dragon a one way ticket to Cuba or North Korea. It's thriving model societies like those who's virtues you are extoling.

 

[Rubber Duck]

>>>>Our species is parasitic and stupid, and when we transcend all standards of logic and reason, we need to be saved from ourselves.

Boy, it's a good thing we have individuals like you willing to put themselves in charge and save us all from ourselves. I'm curious why your-highness chose 100 million as the magic acceptable limit? I say we all take up a collection to purchase Dragon a one way ticket to Cuba or North Korea. It's thriving model societies like those who's virtues you are extoling.

Unfortunately, I don't think they would have him. They would be too concerned that he would want to end up running the joint!

Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[Chaiki]

>>>>Communism cannot enslave anyone. It is merely an economic model.

Communism is about absolute power and control.. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Incidentally how do you know Yun Ye is not spending all his gains on charity? Why do you asume he will buy a yacht or champagne.. Silly silly shi* .

I think the reason you are seeing a lively discussion about this is because Dragon's comments run counter to the small business minded, entrepreneurial fiber of this forum.

 

[chatcher]

...Incidentally how do you know Yun Ye is not spending all his gains on charity? Why do you asume he will buy a yacht or champagne.. Silly silly shi* .

And even if he does buy a yacht or champagne, where do you think that money goes? It isn't taken out of circulation, it keeps moving through the system, same as if he bought a ton of wheat. There is no real difference between him buying a boat or you buying a cup of coffee.

For every case of so-called selfish greed you can find in the world, you can also find cases of selfless charity and generosity. Human beings are complex, and the good they are capable of is every bit as amazing as the evil. Sometimes in the same person. The idea that some sort of laws are required to feed the poor is ludicrous. In the US our government extorts tax dollars from us and runs inefficient social programs to cure all ills, leaving us with less to give voluntarily, and less control over how the money is spent.

The least we can do for a person competent enough to have amassed over 100 million dollars is to allow them the courtesy of controlling how it is spent.

 

[draqon]

Where was I making an intellectual argument? I was merely pointing out that communism has worked successfully in certain economies. 95% of what you're saying is merely infantile insults devoid of any content. As I mentioned above, I don't support communism as I don't think its sustainable. However, I predict enormous human and environmental costs of western capitalism will begin to become more and more clear in the coming century. Do you know what rainforests are? Do you think your children will? I recommend you read up on the tragedy of the commons - the inevitable result of unchecked economic growth.

Call that an intellectual arguement? It about as shallow as a muddy puddle. The theories that you are putting forward have been tested in the laboratory of human behaviour for much of the twentieth century at enourmous human cost. Only a Moron could come to the conclusion they are still viable. The biggest proponents of such theories have always been people that want to impose their views on other to secure the worlds natural resources, and look to what use they have put them. Freedom of speech you have been granted, by the very society you condemn. It is a priveledge, so is the right to make up ones mind about what you are saying. Don't expect too many people to listen.

If you think that the only reward they seek is to have a drunken orgy with tart, then you sense of values is so debase that you are clearly staining everyone else with your own bile.

Thats known as a straw-man argument. You are taking something I did not claim or imply - that entrepreneurs are seeking only drunken orgies - and then attempting to delegitimize my points with it.

Boy, it's a good thing we have individuals like you willing to put themselves in charge and save us all from ourselves. I'm curious why your-highness chose 100 million as the magic acceptable limit? I say we all take up a collection to purchase Dragon a one way ticket to Cuba or North Korea. It's thriving model societies like those who's virtues you are extoling.

Communism is about absolute power and control.. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Incidentally how do you know Yun Ye is not spending all his gains on charity? Why do you asume he will buy a yacht or champagne.. Silly silly shi* .

100 million was an arbitrary number.

One primary reason that communism in these socities have failed horribly is because of whats known as the cult of personality. They have leaders that have become so self-obsessed and greedy that they have instituted a policy of totalitarianism and eliminated basic freedoms such as speech, press, etc. There is no intelligent reason that communism would have to exist simultaneously with such policies. You seem to be unable to tell apart totalitarianism and communism - one seeks total control of a populace and the other does not.

As for my opinion of Yun Ye, its formed with inside knowledge you don't have access to. For example, do you know why Yun likes to keep such a low profile, or why he is no longer living in the US? You don't, I do.

And even if he does buy a yacht or champagne, where do you think that money goes? It isn't taken out of circulation, it keeps moving through the system, same as if he bought a ton of wheat. There is no real difference between him buying a boat or you buying a cup of coffee.

This may sound logical, and for years economists used this idea to argue the trickle-down effect. However, this idea has fallen out of favor because its become clear that the uber-wealthy engage in two important practices: (a)tax-sheltering/evasion and (b)hoarding.

 

[Steen]

Perhaps I am being provincial, but I just don't see China as very hospitable to entrepreneurs.

I am sorry that I don't really know the state of Hong Kong.
Is it ruled by the Chinese or does it still have British influence?

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

dragon wrote:

Where was I making an intellectual argument? I was merely pointing out that communism has worked successfully in certain economies. 95% of what you're saying is merely infantile insults devoid of any content. As I mentioned above, I don't support communism as I don't think its sustainable. However, I predict enormous human and environmental costs of western capitalism will begin to become more and more clear in the coming century. Do you know what rainforests are? Do you think your children will? I recommend you read up on the tragedy of the commons - the inevitable result of unchecked economic growth.

COMMUNISM HAS BEEN AN ABJECT AND MISERABLE FAILURE.

IF ANYTHING WILL SAVE THE RAIN FOIRESTS, IT WILL BE CAPITALISM. GOOD ENVIRONMENTALISM IS ULTIMATELY GOOD BUSINESS.

One primary reason that communism in these socities have failed horribly is because of whats known as the cult of personality. They have leaders that have become so self-obsessed and greedy that they have instituted a policy of totalitarianism and eliminated basic freedoms such as speech, press, etc. There is no intelligent reason that communism would have to exist simultaneously with such policies. You seem to be unable to tell apart totalitarianism and communism - one seeks total control of a populace and the other does not.

YES, IT HAS FAILED. NO BUTS.

COMMUNISM AND TOTALITARIANISM ARE JOINED AT THE HIP.

As for my opinion of Yun Ye, its formed with inside knowledge you don't have access to. For example, do you know why Yun likes to keep such a low profile, or why he is no longer living in the US? You don't, I do.

SPIT IT OUT, OR STOP THE INNUENDO.

 

[draqon]

I'm sure if Edison were alive today he could tell you that the incandescent lightbulb was an abject and miserable failure for thousands of trials, and then when he got it right, viola, it worked.

"SPIT IT OUT, OR STOP THE INNUENDO."

Ahhh, I don't think my lawyer would like that. Insulting claims - even when accurate and based on accurate information - can lead to expensive lawsuits. Yun Ye could spend 30k without batting an eyelid - i cannot.

However, I will now totally and completely stop referring to yun ye and this matter, because there is some element of unfairness in innuendo when it cannot be supported by facts.

 

[izoot]

dragon wrote:

Where was I making an intellectual argument? I was merely pointing out that communism has worked successfully in certain economies. 95% of what you're saying is merely infantile insults devoid of any content. As I mentioned above, I don't support communism as I don't think its sustainable. However, I predict enormous human and environmental costs of western capitalism will begin to become more and more clear in the coming century. Do you know what rainforests are? Do you think your children will? I recommend you read up on the tragedy of the commons - the inevitable result of unchecked economic growth.

COMMUNISM HAS BEEN AN ABJECT AND MISERABLE FAILURE.

IF ANYTHING WILL SAVE THE RAIN FOIRESTS, IT WILL BE CAPITALISM. GOOD ENVIRONMENTALISM IS ULTIMATELY GOOD BUSINESS.

One primary reason that communism in these socities have failed horribly is because of whats known as the cult of personality. They have leaders that have become so self-obsessed and greedy that they have instituted a policy of totalitarianism and eliminated basic freedoms such as speech, press, etc. There is no intelligent reason that communism would have to exist simultaneously with such policies. You seem to be unable to tell apart totalitarianism and communism - one seeks total control of a populace and the other does not.

YES, IT HAS FAILED. NO BUTS.

COMMUNISM AND TOTALITARIANISM ARE JOINED AT THE HIP.

As for my opinion of Yun Ye, its formed with inside knowledge you don't have access to. For example, do you know why Yun likes to keep such a low profile, or why he is no longer living in the US? You don't, I do.

SPIT IT OUT, OR STOP THE INNUENDO.

Why do you feel that YELLING is going to get your point across an better? Dragon isn't yell or frothing at the mouth..no need for you too.

 

[Chaiki]

Dragon.. this isn't philosophy or poly-sci class.. this is the real world. There are people who visit these forums who are worth 100 million dollars and they don't appreciate being told no-one deserves to own that much because there are people starving in the world.. or the rainforests are going away... Or the icecaps are melting.. You've got some kind of misguided globalization anger and need to learn to differentiate between an oil company, a lumber producer and a non-polluting intellectual property asset base. There are others here who will never be worth 100 million dollars who are content to try to get there. Use the examples as a goal or guide.. Then there's you, unlikely to get there, obviously bitter about it and so "nobody should be allowed to get there" (Waaaaa) [that is how it looks anyways] So I for one (respectfully) say "up yours" I don't hear anyone here coming to defend your bonehead argument. Wanna conduct business?.. great, Welcome. Wanna tell people they can work hard but not realise the fruit of their hard work, because the reward is too much IYO, then the anti-globalisation forum is two doors down on your left. Don't let the door strike your buttox as you make your exit.

 

[jberryhill]

The theories that you are putting forward have been tested in the laboratory of human behaviour for much of the twentieth century at enourmous human cost.

I was out walking this weekend and I found a stone spear point. I never found anything like that before. It was just lying on the ground near a stream, where there had been some erosion from a rainstorm we had on Friday. Looking up the classification system for projectile points of northern Delaware, I found that this point could have been manufactured anywhere from between 5000 B.C to 1000 A.D. by the ancient former inhabitants of this area. Apparently for six thousand years, there were dudes running around in the woods here, chasing down critters and eating them.

That would have overlapped with the Zhou Dynasty, which lasted nearly 800 years, and was far more advanced than anything here, and was twice as long (and well before) the Roman Empire. I don't know that much about Egyptian history, but I doubt we've figured everything out in the last 100 years.

Still, I'm sort of partial to chasing down critters in the woods and eating them:
ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ok/nations/creek/history/berryhill/beryh1.txt