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China Domain names number increases sharply when China grows up
A pair of strong earthquakes off the coast of Taiwan damaged at least six China undersea cables and disrupted telephone and Internet access in Asia at the end of year 2006. China website using TLD such as .com, .net .org ,.info, .biz are seriously influenced, most of USA websites cannot be visited, and China websites use .com or Servers in USA were down. These troubles lasted for about a month, MSN can not be used too then. China internet expert called on government to promote .CN, China CCTLD to protect national network security.
Months later, we saw the news the China government required all sub-government use China domain names, especially Chinese domain names (CDN).
And China CCTLD .CN is also pushed by its registry –CNNIC, before end of May, 2007,.CN become the No.3 CCTLD in the world, next to .de and .uk, which was over 5 million.
China will hold 2008 Olympic games and is believed to PK USA on economy in year 2020, whose GDP is not 1/3 of USA.
China economy and investment field become very hot, people are becoming very enthusiastic to buy China shares, real estates and even domain names.
Especially when the $0.99 special price for .info ended recently, a $0.49 .CN domain names registration becomes very hot, just looks like robbing the China domain name bank! However, while many people register .CN names, .CN, even China influence to international community will become more and more powerful.
 
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CN price quaking.
 

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Just read this on cnobin.

Cnobin is pleased to announce that based on the success of the .cn domain sales promotion program, the Opportunity for users Growth ".cn" Program will be extended! The program is designed to stimulate more sales and continued growth in the .cn franchise. All users will still register a new .cn domain 0.15$/the first new year.

www.cnobin.com

15 cents a Name !!!! :)
 

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Notes:Only the first year of each new registration is eligible.
Renewals and transfers are not eligible.If an eligible registration.
is made for a term of more than one year,only the first year will get the 0.15$/year,or .cn $21.99 later ,you also have domain name transfer problems and potential cost on .cn names at www.cnobin.com. I have registered names there,almost killed me.
 

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Yes, most local registrars make .cn transfer/push a pain on the ass. AFAIK, .cn registered outside China and inside China are totally separated and not mutually transferable. So the prices are also hugely different. How can you avoid this while you are supposed to be "inside" China given your low prices, dnol.
 

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using the unfamiliarity of .cn registration regulations and China situation to ask high price for domain transfer is quite common worldwide,such as $120 each ,which I saw a top ranking site when you search .cn names at google.
I have good relation with registry and registrars.So as long as my clients register names legally and follow the registry regulations,things will be operated smoothly,it is value-added service,Zero fee,but Welcome Tips :)

wow,Wang,you have great name:dn.cc,congratulations!
middle xxxxx USD
 

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Do you have the link to this earthquake news?.
 

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Do you have the link to this earthquake news?.
That particular article and news is quite old, several months old as a matter of fact (although a quake did rattle Japan not but a couple of hours ago).

This article has been a contention of claims for quite sometime.

China is moving to maintain it's own registry rather than depend on the registries worldwide. By using this news (which was factual at the time that there was a quake and power was disrupted for several hours) China is hoping to boost it's position to control it's registry.

China has repeatedly made claims that it will have more PC's in the world and more .cn than .com, a claim that I am sure it will attain.

By reducing the .cn price to pennies (1 yuan) this goal will certainly be attained. Add to this the Chinese government decreeing that all government offices and official agencies forego the .com and immediately use .cn then one can see where all of this is going.

China is also on a huge push for IDN. China undoubtedly will get what China wants. As the arguable number one economic power in the world with the largest population in the world, it is not at all inconceivable for China to achieve all of these goals.

With the Olympics upcoming in 2008, I do not look for too much radical change as China knows the world will be watching China. It is updating its infrastucture to accomodate all the world's telecommunications.

Personally, soon after the Olympics, I look for China to mandate to all Chinese people, businesses, and all within it's borders to use the .cn rather than the .com.

This will have far reaching effects on the global market place. China may also dictate to external companies doing business that have a physical presence in China to also adopt this domain. For instance, I believe it was Chrysler who just announced opening up a facility in China. To reach them, you will have to use the .cn.

To further complicate matters, IDN. China want's its own character and language as a means of communication. Again, what is to stop them?

But add this twist to the equation...India by the year 2015 is expected to surpass China in population. India is also pushing very heavily to have its citizens adopt the .in domain as well as pushing very hard for its Hindi and other language usage.

I think in the next few years you will witness a very fractured, complex, and disorganized internet as countries move towards their native languages and scripts. English will still be common as an international business communication form. But to do business with these countries may require a different business model. As browsers and keyboards become more intuitive and capable of recognizing IDN, native lanquages and scripts offering translations into a chosen form will help.

But, I think we are in for a wild ride in the next few years.
 

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Edited: why do you edited your post, BuyAuthority? Making me have to to avoid misunderstanding lol .

Anyhow, the concern of Doc Com is a bit overdone. Chinese using .cn for gov'ts makes sense and it should be in this way. .cn is not allowing personal registration is the biggest obstacle for the extension, even though many domainers play around with it.
In China,
3 yrs ago: .com>.net>.com.cn>.cn
Today: .com>.cn>.com.cn>.net
We do see a trend of .cn catching up here but saying Chinese internet will be flooded with IDNs and mostly .cn might not be an accurate assumption. Most popular Chinese online portals use .com (baidu, 163, sohu etc) and they were there since the foundation of internet and the new comers also do.
http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_sites?cc=CN&ts_mode=country&lang=none
I don't see .cn is easy to take it over.
To summarize, .com always leads other ext in China. .cn can be huge, but only because those sites find .com unavailable or simply protecting the names using as redirecting.
 

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Anyhow, the concern of Doc Com is a bit overdone. Chinese using .cn for gov'ts makes sense and it should be in this way. .cn is not allowing personal registration is the biggest obstacle for the extension, even though many domainers play around with it.
What is not overdone is China's goals and China's pushing toward IDN usage. Time will tell, but I do not think that time is too far off.

I would also like to point out, just for the sake of any "lost in translation" episode, this is not a "concern" of Doc Com and whether some see this as a "bit overdone" does not change the facts of the gist of the research.

Googling these articles will bear out the facts that I have presented. These are well documented international business trends and technology markets reporting this news and these developments as business need to forecast what potential changes they may encounter.
 

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What is not overdone is China's goals and China's pushing toward IDN usage. Time will tell, but I do not think that time is too far off.

I would also like to point out, just for the sake of any "lost in translation" episode, this is not a "concern" of Doc Com and whether some see this as a "bit overdone" does not change the facts of the gist of the research.

Googling these articles will bear out the facts that I have presented. These are well documented international business trends and technology markets reporting this news and these developments as business need to forecast what potential changes they may encounter.
thank you rubber duck ;)
 

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What is not overdone is China's goals and China's pushing toward IDN usage. Time will tell, but I do not think that time is too far off.

I would also like to point out, just for the sake of any "lost in translation" episode, this is not a "concern" of Doc Com and whether some see this as a "bit overdone" does not change the facts of the gist of the research.

Googling these articles will bear out the facts that I have presented. These are well documented international business trends and technology markets reporting this news and these developments as business need to forecast what potential changes they may encounter.
I think my point is quite clear and it stands based on what I see in Chinese local internet community of domainers and online CEOs.
1. .com is not going to be replaced by .cn. The mandating sites using .cn by gov't you mentioned is clueless. It is only for gov't sites and what you expect them to use any way, .org?
2. IDN is no where close to where replacing Pinyin.com/.cn, which many people are familiar with and not needing switch 1-2 times while typing a URL.
China is not that different from other countries in the world. .com penetrates there much deeper than it in say UK or Japan. If you checked the alexa link I posted above, you see .com is dominating even for the new sites being set up lately. Changing Chinese people's online habit is as hard as changing it for Americans, since .com is not only the King of US but also the King of China.
Don't get me wrong. I am into IDNs as well as part of the investment plan, but misinterpreting the trend for our own business sake is just false. It is like I'm doing scientific research, instead of presenting the raw data as it is, I shape it as what I expected.
 

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with over 125 million .com names registered and everyone saying almost all good words and meanings are taken, what happens in a country of over 1 billion people when they all have to chase .cn names?

just read recently that the number of Chinese online has equaled or passed the number of Americans online. I still wonder what is the buying power of the average online Chinese person - do they have a credit card, can certain goods not be shipped to them, etc.
 

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^^ Credit card is catching up. Most people use instant online bank transfers. We also have alipay, tenpay and a localized paypal.com.cn which enables instant transfer with escrow service integrated.
As for shipped goods, whatever you can get from ebay, you can get from China's counterparts.
To name a few leading generic online stores.
www.taobao.com
www.paipai.com
www.ebay.com.cn (lately becomes independent again as www.eachnet.com and separates it from www.ebay.cn)
 

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China will be interesting to watch over the next decade. A friend of mine runs his own store in my town, he's from China and recently went back with his family for a couple weeks visit. When he got back I asked him how it was. He said it was great and he wished he could have stayed longer. All the growth and the mix of communism and capitalism makes it interesting.
 

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the digital divide is here

chinese idns will reign over pinyin
 

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I think my point is quite clear and it stands based on what I see in Chinese local internet community of domainers and online CEOs.
1. .com is not going to be replaced by .cn. The mandating sites using .cn by gov't you mentioned is clueless. It is only for gov't sites and what you expect them to use any way, .org?
2. IDN is no where close to where replacing Pinyin.com/.cn, which many people are familiar with and not needing switch 1-2 times while typing a URL.
In 2 years, revisit this thread.
 
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