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[Theo]

If mods don't get involved, awaiting for the seller's decision in order to wrap this up.

agreed. Next time seller should note that if a pm come first then the name is sold to the PM. In this case you never mentioned PMs, so either way, there will someone upset... As GD says below, it's up to you

Mr. Deleted, why did you edit your original post where you agree 100% with my statement?

 

[chording]

Let's spare the seller any uncalled-for harsh words. We shall just wait for his decision.

 

[Theo]

Sorry but at 7pm EST I am sending payment to seller as agreed. Any failure to submit the domain to my account will have consequences. I am not here to play games.

 

[GiantDomains]

Mr. Deleted, why did you edit your original post where you agree 100% with my statement?

I didn't see a mod posted before me. Sorry Mr. Deleted. Whether a mod agress or not, it's still up to the seller. Hope all ends well.

 

[Mr. Deleted]

I didn't see a mod posted before me. Sorry Mr. Deleted. Whether a mod agress or not, it's still up to the seller. Hope all ends well.

No problem, it happens. Anyway, somone will be upset either way, so I don't know what to say.

 

[Theo]

Payment & account info has been sent, per our communication. Expecting the domain within a reasonable timeframe. Thanks.

 

[chording]

Sorry but at 7pm EST I am sending payment to seller as agreed. Any failure to submit the domain to my account will have consequences. I am not here to play games.

Nobody is here to play games. In view of this special scenario, please be reminded that both the Admin & Mod are giving the seller the final say.

We should all respect the seller's right to make his decision freely, without under any form of threat or duress. Mutual respect is indispensable in any business relationship.

 

[Theo]

I have nothing against you Chording. At the end of the day, the seller will either proceed as agreed in our post-sale communication and submit the name to my Namecheap account, or face the consequences of receiving negative feedback due to lack of professional insight and ethos. It's not in my nature to patronize the seller - I call it like it is.

 

[chording]

Theo, I have nothing against you too. It's also not in my nature to patronize the seller - I merely stated the facts - those harsh words are unwarranted.

 

[Theo]

By saying that I am using harsh words, you're insinuating that I am in the wrong, when in fact it is obvious from this thread that I am in the right. The decision of the mods to abstain from any judgement - actually, Mr. Deleted did comment in my favor, only to edit out his post after GiantDomains' neutral stance - shows that the seller will reap what he sowed. I am not used to sales going south like this one and perhaps this should be a lesson for tighter rules in the sales forum.

 

[SirSpider]

I have a solution. Sell it to me for $4.00.
:cheeky: :cheeky: :cheeky:

Seriously, I would assume that an open forum offer, with no stipulations, would anticipate an open forum response--meaning a "POST SOLD" type of response to claim the domain.

On the other hand, I have seen many sales on DNF that have ended with "Sold via PM" as the closing post (where no such prior stipualtion was made).

Soooooooooo... Maybe the admins should consider creating a "default" guideline that a sale should/will be conducted in "thus and such" manner -- unless stipulations are provided to the contrary. Then EVERYONE would know what to expect from this point forward.

That's just my 2-cents. But what do I know? I've only been at this a short while.

Tough decision for the seller. Unfortunately seems like a lose-lose situation in this instance.

 

[namewaiter]

I didnt know about either the post or the pm, until i logged on, and when i did log on, I saw the PM first.

I've pm'd DotComGod about this.

In all fairness you may have SEEN the PM first, but which was actually timed stamped first, the pm or the 'SOLD' post? I would think which ever was timed stamped first gets the domain, you made no rules on how you wanted to be notified. Both made you aware of their intent to purchase, so whoever made their intent know to you, the seller, first should be the winner, imho.

 

[Theo]

Tomorrow it's Friday and it's supposed to be a TGIF moment. Instead, we are all getting stressed out.

Even though I have already submitted payment, I withdraw my candidacy from this thread. The sale can commence without me. The seller can also keep my $4 and have a beer on me.

Over and out.

 

[chording]

Gracious of you Theo, let's toast a beer!

 

[OrangeContent]

Tomorrow it's Friday and it's supposed to be a TGIF moment. Instead, we are all getting stressed out.

Even though I have already submitted payment, I withdraw my candidacy from this thread. The sale can commence without me. The seller can also keep my $4 and have a beer on me.

Over and out.

Sorry - I'm a busy guy ... Sorry about the delay in time. Acroplex I have awarded you the domain, GEODSL. The way I typically buy domains is like you have with this one. Since it was the first post, and I thought it was you who pm'd me regarding the post, you get it. Besides you kept true to your word, paying on time like stated, very business like and professional. Domain is pushed.

Chord - Is a great member, very fair and hopes for the best in all situations. He's kept a positive contact with me and I award him A FREE DOMAIN OF HIS CHOICE from the sale list.

It's in my nature to try and work things out positively, so, it is not in my nature to accept the "FREE BEER" offer -- I dont drink .

Since there was confusion, and anger, I think the best choice is to award the original poster -- "SOLD" the domain. Chord, please post "SOLD" on every thread from now on, as then it won't cause confusion. Chord, please check your PMs as I have sent you a PM regarding your free domain for being such a good person.

Sorry to both Chord and Acroplex as this issue was hard to sort out.

I hope it doesn't affect future business practices.

Sincerely,

Daniel.

 

[Dave Zan]

Glad to see this resolved. Looks fair to me.

Unless, of course, someone becomes more "demanding".

In any case, this is a great lesson especially for newbies about to do a similar
thing.

 

[chording]

Glad to see this resolved. Looks fair to me.

Unless, of course, someone becomes more "demanding".

In any case, this is a great lesson especially for newbies about to do a similar
thing.

Dave, guess I ought to be more "demanding" in this whole incident, for the benefit of all.

Sorry - I'm a busy guy ... Sorry about the delay in time. Acroplex I have awarded you the domain, GEODSL. The way I typically buy domains is like you have with this one. Since it was the first post, and I thought it was you who pm'd me regarding the post, you get it. Besides you kept true to your word, paying on time like stated, very business like and professional. Domain is pushed.

Chord - Is a great member, very fair and hopes for the best in all situations. He's kept a positive contact with me and I award him A FREE DOMAIN OF HIS CHOICE from the sale list.

It's in my nature to try and work things out positively, so, it is not in my nature to accept the "FREE BEER" offer -- I dont drink .

Since there was confusion, and anger, I think the best choice is to award the original poster -- "SOLD" the domain. Chord, please post "SOLD" on every thread from now on, as then it won't cause confusion. Chord, please check your PMs as I have sent you a PM regarding your free domain for being such a good person.

Sorry to both Chord and Acroplex as this issue was hard to sort out.

I hope it doesn't affect future business practices.

Sincerely,

Daniel.

Daniel, I respect but I couldn't agree with your decision. As this thread might set an odd precedent to similar problems in the future, thus for the purpose of putting the record right, and to disperse your allegation of "confusion" caused by my PM, I must emphasize the following:

(1) In case you're not aware, private transactions via PM are extremely common at DnForum.

(2) Your sales thread mentioned neither "Post Sold to claim" nor "No PM". Thus it was obvious that you did not reject PM as a form of communication to you. Had you mentioned either, I would have posted Sold instead of PM Sold.

(3) Since this thread is now in legal section, let me air my view from a legal standpoint - You made an offer to sell, the acceptance came when I PM Sold to you. The PM timestamped 2:40 PM EST. With both offer and acceptance, there is a binding contract between you and me. [ A lawyer's view on this is much appreciated. ]

(4) Theo posted Sold later, the post timestamped 5:22 PM EST. In other words, Theo's claim is invalid as it only came 2 hours and 42 mins after my PM.

I understand that you might have no prior experience in handling private transactions. An experienced seller will NEVER treat the PM and post coming from the same person, without verifying first. Your mistakes had misleaded Theo into believing that he was the first to claim the domain, and it later snowballed to such a mess.

Theo had since withdrawn his candidacy from this sale. Daniel, I just couldn't understand your logic in arriving into such a decision. Had you been more experienced or vigilant, such "confusion" would never arise. Thanks for your free domain offer, but I'll pass.

Btw, gracious of you Theo, I'd love to hear your view on this.


For the benefit of all, I would strongly second SirSpider's suggestion that a default guideline to be put in place. To elaborate, for a sales thread that mentioned neither "Post Sold to claim" nor "No PM", DnForum ought to have a guideline to dictate explicitly whether PM is accepted as a form of communication or otherwise. This is necessary as to protect the interest of all parties in all future transactions.


Thanks for all who have contributed so far

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[NameGuy]

I don't see the big deal on this. The person who claims sold first gets the name. It doesn't matter the method of communication - pm, email, thread post, whatever. That's the way its always been. So look at the timestamps of the communications and the first one received is the buyer.

 

[Zoobar]

I don't see the big deal on this. The person who claims sold first gets the name. It doesn't matter the method of communication - pm, email, thread post, whatever. That's the way its always been. So look at the timestamps of the communications and the first one received is the buyer.

I would have gone by timestamp as well.

 

[GT Web]

I would have gone by timestamp as well.

agreed.