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Bob Parsons is supposed to be on CNN sometimes today to talk about it...hope I haven't missed it. Does anyone know what time its on?
Yes because a quick clean kill in an organized and legal hunt is a lot like burning a house pet alive.as a teen he was probably one who would pour gasoline on dogs or cats and set them on fire just to watch them suffer
Yes because a quick clean kill in an organized and legal hunt is a lot like burning a house pet alive.
The animals that go into your chicken nuggets suffer a lot more than these elephants did...never seeing the light of day and getting their feathers painfully plucked while they are still alive. Now that's torture. That doesn't stop people from eating them though.
Of course its food so its okay...can't live without those chicken nuggets; while the local Africans can survive just fine without free-range elephants.
Yes because a quick clean kill in an organized and legal hunt is a lot like burning a house pet alive.
The animals that go into your chicken nuggets suffer a lot more than these elephants did...never seeing the light of day and getting their feathers painfully plucked while they are still alive. Now that's torture. That doesn't stop people from eating them though.
Of course its food so its okay...can't live without those chicken nuggets; while the local Africans can survive just fine without free-range elephants.
"When you see me smiling in that picture, Iâm smiling because Iâm relieved no one was hurt, that the crop was saved, and that these people were going to be fed â the type of smile when you get a good report card or achieve a goal,â he says
There are alot more chickens raised for the sole purpose of becoming food and under federal guidelines in one commercial chicken coop,..
.... then there are elephants in Africa total.
PETA is infamous for extortion...which I'm sure is exactly what happened here.
You and I both know that extortion is illegal, and if PETA were to leak evidence of this there would be a criminal investigation. Not that there haven't been criminal investigations against PETA in the past that have resulted in members going to prison, while PETA's leader praised the aforementioned members.Tell me then,... why are you so sure of this.
This is important to your arguement.
So tell me,.... why are you sure. And use some facts just to make it good for me.
PETA is infamous for extortion...which I'm sure is exactly what happened here.
I am sure because I am aware of the practices that PETA participates in. But since neither of us can prove it either way why are you getting hung up on it? Oh yeah, you don't have any other argument to the actual point I was making in that post, which is that there is nothing wrong with legal elephant hunting. That was the argument.While I wont entertain that,..
... mainly because i wish to address this...
I specifically want to know how you can be so sure.
You brought Peta into this discussion, not me.
Now, make it viable if you will.
Otherwise it is just a political distraction ploy.
I dont wish to address the issues without supporting evidence.
I am not going to play political or policy ploy here.
First off, I don't hunt. Think it's kind of weak.Why didn't you transfer years ago? This isn't the first time he's done this, not the first time he's posted up videos.
I always hear people from other countries say how Americans love their pets/animals more than people and here is another case.
First how about the people there? Their opinion counts more than anybody's here. Crops getting destroyed, this is what they do. You see how they went at the elephant to get that meat? Seemed like they were pretty hungry. The elephant didn't go to waste. Did they look upset with Bob killing that elephant? Didn't look like it.
Is everybody outraged a vegetarian? Because, like I said, I eat meat. If you do and have a problem with this, you're a hypocrite. Those animals get slaughtered so people can eat meat. That's just the reality of things.
I am sure because I am aware of the practices that PETA participates in. But since neither of us can prove it either way why are you getting hung up on it? Oh yeah, you don't have any other argument to the actual point I was making in that post, which is that there is nothing wrong with legal elephant hunting. That was the argument.
You put it perfectly. Legal elephant hunting is not putting the species at danger; therefore I have no problem with it. I'm not a hunter, and like I previously stated, I would have been content with just observing the elephants myself. But who am I to say (legal) elephant hunting is wrong?It's a fact many people there are starving. Screw the people, save the elephant? People kill animals, people eat animals. Animals kill animals, animals eat animals. Not pretty but nothing new. Hunting has been around since the dawn of man. Some just for sport, some for sport/food. This one was a bit of both.
He did have to pay $6500 per license, plus $xx,xxx for a skilled tracker each time. It's a 2 week hunt for a single elephant. I'm sure it's quite an adventure hunting for two weeks with a skilled tracker through the African wilderness. That sounds like fun actually, I might have to try to do that sometime in my lifetime (hold the elephant though, I just want the experience).He says he was helping the children, helping starving people, helping the crops.
And I say Bull****.
Unfortunately we live in the real world where land is limited and people are too many. If you take land away from people and give it to the elephants, many people will die. Is it really worth it? I know many at PETA would say yes but that's just plain cold and an unhealthy attitude that is indicative of underlying psychological issues.I love the excuse "but he fed an entire village of starving Africans." The problem is that doesn't really say much, you could walk out into an African forest and butterfly kick a rotten tree stump and probably achieve the same result. "Oh hey look, centipedes."
Judging by the fact that hunting elephants is legal, I'm going to assume that zoos and elephant sanctuaries are running full at the moment? What a shame that with all of Bob Parsons wealth and business connections that he doesn't sponsor or help set up an elephant sanctuary of some sort. I'd pay an extra 0.25 per annual domain renewal if I knew that it was going to help fund a sanctuary for "problem elephants AKA elephants suffering from loss of habitat".
PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk said:Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, weâd be against it.
Carl Cohen said:Those who will not make the morally relevant distinctions among species are almost certain, in consequence, to misapprehend their true obligations.
Unfortunately we live in the real world where land is limited and people are too many. If you take land away from people and give it to the elephants, many people will die. Is it really worth it? I know many at PETA would say yes but that's just plain cold and an unhealthy attitude that is indicative of underlying psychological issues.
Yea it sucks that land is limited but that's the way it is. These people are already starving with the farmland they have.
Hopefully soon cheap desalination along with improved irrigation will help to feed the continent. That's only one of the battles many African nations face though, with corruption being what's holding everything back from what I've gathered talking to Africans I've worked with.