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glw

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dude,
I hope every person you try and buy a domain from agrees to a price, then comes back and accuses you of being a dirty cybersquatter and wants ten times the price. This is exactly what you are doing.

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Tell them you had meant to say "20k" instead of 2k or better yet tell them you were drunk when you made the deal :undecided
 

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glw said:
dude,
I hope every person you try and buy a domain from agrees to a price, then comes back and accuses you of being a dirty cybersquatter and wants ten times the price. This is exactly what you are doing.

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not exactly, i don't want ten times the price. in fact i don't want anything. this domain is not for sale any more.

and you seem to be another one of 'em high ground priest. the moralist in words only, who is quick to preach one way, but acts the other.

and even if your 'fatwa' works out, it is still business. nobody is forced to do anything on 'moral grounds' alone. i won't cry if someone calls me cs, and attempts to get out of me what he feels is right.

btw, this is not a domainer-domainer deal, nor a person-person, but one person-vs-big cunning corporation. the difference is significant, and it calls for better re-approach. that u fail to see any difference, only shows the level of your 'un'derstanding of this world.
 

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If you don't sell it per the terms, you'll receive:

• Bad karma
• Eternal damnation in hell

If you sell it, you'll receive:

• Good karma
• An angel's wings around your head

In life, it's not about what's fair - it's about making choices that lead to different paths.
 

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I dont understand why you are directing your anger and frusteration toward everyone here ? If you already have your mind set and don't want to sell the domain then don't ... no one on this board will force you to do anything !
 

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RADiSTAR said:
If you don't sell it per the terms

there were no 'terms'.

DomainDealer said:
I dont understand why you are directing your anger and frusteration toward everyone here ?!

because it is ****ed up to to be taught lessons on 'morality and 'ehical principles' by a bunch of internet leeches, tm piggybackers, pornographers and typosquaters.

so until u clean up your own house, u have no right to give me shit.

your answers are the lowest form of hypocrisy in existence. but i do understand that precisely for that reason it is necessary for you to take the 'mental burden' off of your own conscience by blaming someone who volunteers and gives you helpful info. and tries to explain why he could not be mother theresa to a big corporation that deceives in their business dealings.

your answers to me tell a lot more about u then they could ever if u were to talk just about yourselves.
 

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This is what was originally posted:

i agreed to sell the name for two grand

The material terms of a sale contract are (a) what is for sale, and (b) what is the price. All other terms related to performance are determined by reasonable practice, but (a) and (b) are the only material terms.

Your apparent belief that a contract is formed only when someone signs a written document is outright wrong. The vast majority of all legal, enforcible contracts do not involve a signed writing of any kind.

And, oh yes, the "mendacious self-serving lawyer" crap surfaces yet again. Yah, I make a fortune commenting for free on forums. But, lawyers don't make any money when people agree and perform their agreements. In your vocabulary, saying "I agreed" means something peculiar - along the lines of "I didn't agree". Now, you either agreed or didn't agree to sell this domain name, but in your first post, you said "I agreed". Remind me not to "agree" with you in the future.

Can a contract be formed in an email exchange? Certainly it can. They wrote to someone whom they believed had authority over the domain. The person who wrote back agreed to sell the domain for 2K. In fact, you admit that person was you. Your point about whether they can prove it was you is an issue of evidence, not one of what the underlying truth was. Yes, if you proceed to deny it was you - i.e. lie - then I guess they'll have to check the IP address in the Yahoo email header and track you down in order to show that, yes, it was you and, yes, you are a liar. But saying, "they can't prove it was me" does not change the fact that it was, indeed, you who did the "agree"ing that you admitted in your first post.

The principle you are driving at - that there were things you didn't know when you made the deal - are relevant to the defense of contract non-performance known as "mistake". However, your argument has a long history of being defeated. A "mistake" worthy of dismissing non-performance is a mistake relating to the material terms - in this instance that you were mistaken as to (a) the domain, or (b) the price to which you "agreed" (I'll use quotes there, in view of your own personal definition of what it means to "agree". Under the law of contracts, it is never, never a "mistake" that you didn't know you could squeeze more cash out of the other party if you knew more about them. It just does not work that way. It is not a moral issue, but simply a black letter principle of contract law that has evolved over hundreds of years of commercial behavior.

What you came here asking is, "What is the most graceful way of breaching an agreement I made?" The fact that you are likely to find extremely little sympathy in this audience is a tribute to the rules of everyday contract law that this audience has internalized.
 

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whatchamacallit said:
a bunch of internet leeches, tm piggybackers, pornographers and typosquaters.
To quote Peewee Herman: I know you are, but what am I?

whatchamacallit said:
so until u clean up your own house, u have no right to give me shit.

Nobody will hold your hand - welcome to the real world where reality checks are needed often.

Are you for real....in two threads - this one and the one about how Escrow.com "canoodled" you - you've managed to become Mr. Loathsome. Get off the Atkins "red meat" diet fast, or you'll be facing an aneurysm in the next couple of years.
 

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whatchamacallit said:
i guess, my question now is what is one to do in situation like this?

You came asking this question. Others had given their opinions and you seem to saying everyone is wrong. Why ask the question if you know you were not going to like the answer? :huh:

Did you think everyone would say, "It's alright little Johnny. You didn't know a large corporation was trying to get your name. Go ahead and ask for more." :evil:

Instead of arguing with users here, why not just reply to the email stating you want more and see what happens?
 

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Instead of arguing with users here, why not just reply to the email stating you want more and see what happens?

Amen.

Because IF this guy is really dealing with an attorney, and IF this domain name corresponds to a nationally-recognized brand, then I have a pretty good idea what will happen.
 

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watchamacallit:
This is a forum where reputable members of the domain society come and interact, and voice their opinions on topics. You came asked a simple question, meaning you want an answer, and moviedomains was just being honest. You, on the other hand, began to use foul language, despite repeated posts saying you are at fault. Obviously, you do not want to listen to anyone.

Thread closed, warning points issued.
 
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