I just heard a radio commercial talking about selling domains.

[Beachie]

I threw my name and info in and watched the video. This page on their site has got my attention. Could this be true?

http://24-7domainregistration.com/longincrease.htm

Can 63 character domains be true? Yes, they were introduced in November 1999.

 

[HasRob]

Thanks but not what I meant.

I meant names like flowers-roses-cheap.com are they a potential goldmine in resales?

 

[Beachie]

Thanks but not what I meant.

I meant names like flowers-roses-cheap.com are they a potential goldmine in resales?

Oh, sorry, I see. No, they're not. Aside from most people shying away from hyphens, one thing that makes a domain valuable is rarity. With word-jumbled-hyphen-domains there are too many combinations to make them rare. If someone is selling flowers-roses-cheap.com for $100, why don't you just register any of these for $6:

roses-flowers-cheap.com
cheap-roses-flowers.com
buy-roses-flowers.com
buy-flowers-roses.com
roses-flowers-buy.com
flowers-roses-buy.com
romantic-flowers-roses.com
romantic-roses.com
romantic-flowers.com
roses-flowers.com
flowers-roses.com
cheap-flower-bouquets.com
cheap-flowers-bouquets.com
bouquets-roses-cheap.com
roses-flowers-bouquets.com
flowers-roses-bouquets.com
bouquets-flowers-roses.com
roses-bouquets-flowers.com
bouquets-roses-flowers.com
bouquets-flowers-cheap.com
roses-flowers-bouquets-cheap.com
flowers-roses-bouquets-cheap.com
bouquets-flowers-roses-cheap.com
roses-bouquets-flowers-cheap.com
bouquets-roses-flowers-cheap.com

That's about 1% of the combinations.. get the picture?

 

[myst woman]

If we have domains and mom and pops want to buy them where is the harm? This might open up the clamshell that has been closing for a while....

 

[HasRob]

Oh, sorry, I see. No, they're not. Aside from most people shying away from hyphens, one thing that makes a domain valuable is rarity. With word-jumbled-hyphen-domains there are too many combinations to make them rare. If someone is selling flowers-roses-cheap.com for $100, why don't you just register any of these for $6:

roses-flowers-cheap.com
cheap-roses-flowers.com
buy-roses-flowers.com
buy-flowers-roses.com
roses-flowers-buy.com
flowers-roses-buy.com
romantic-flowers-roses.com
romantic-roses.com
romantic-flowers.com
roses-flowers.com
flowers-roses.com
cheap-flower-bouquets.com
cheap-flowers-bouquets.com
bouquets-roses-cheap.com
roses-flowers-bouquets.com
flowers-roses-bouquets.com
bouquets-flowers-roses.com
roses-bouquets-flowers.com
bouquets-roses-flowers.com
bouquets-flowers-cheap.com
roses-flowers-bouquets-cheap.com
flowers-roses-bouquets-cheap.com
bouquets-flowers-roses-cheap.com
roses-bouquets-flowers-cheap.com
bouquets-roses-flowers-cheap.com

That's about 1% of the combinations.. get the picture?

I understand that, but wouldnt having all of those domains registered by us domainers make these types of names more valuable?


Imagine, 10 years from now there are no more domains or combination of domains to register. We hold them all and put our price tag on them

 

[Duckinla]

Imagine, 10 years from now there are no more domains or combination of domains to register. We hold them all and put our price tag on them

lol. For about $100 Billion in registration fees we could corner the market on junk domains.

 

[Bill Roy]

Right, it's Sunday morning, the dog has woke me so as to let her out, it's bloody cold, and to make things worse I have a look at this thread and check out 24-7 website!

Oh hell, I know they will get business with their idea, I just hope not too much. If these are the people doing the radio commercial then what a let-down. I was hoping that it was a bright go-get-them business, a business that was full of the pioneering spirit, getting businesses to see how they could enhance their online visability by having a good/great domain name. Unfortunately it seems it is just another 'reg anything you like without knowing anything about the business (or very little at best)'.

As I think 'we' all know:

1) The longer the domain name the more chance for a typing or 'typo' error to occur, this is not mentioned anywhere I saw on the website.
2) There is nothing 'inherently' wrong with hyphens in a domain name. Yes many search engines do then recognise individual words in the name using the hyphen as a seperator of words. However, not many people use hyphens when typing an address into a title bar! This is not mentioned.
3) Search engines may operate 'alphabetically', but only when the results of the search are of equal value. A rubbish site starting 'A1' will still be recovered by a search engine way below a good site starting 'ZZ'. I did not see this mentioned anywhere on the website.

This list could go on and on, but suffice to say that this is a let down from what I originally thought the radio commercial was about. Ah well, here's hoping someone out there takes this by the horns and eventually runs a 'real campaign'.

 

[Duckinla]

Ah well, here's hoping someone out there takes this by the horns and eventually runs a 'real campaign'.

Maybe the pitch from a real campaign could be: "You're way to late. It's not as easy as it seems. You will be amazed how many years ago someone else thought of that name. Your 7th choice, which is actually available, has no appreciation value. Unless you put in real time and energy you will be part of the 95% that never make a dime from this."

I'm not personally jaded, but these companies are going to lead sheep to the slaughter. And the sheep are going to pay them to do it, plain and simple.

 

[DomainEquities]

Are they selling their own specific domains to investors or are they just looking for an investment in their company portfolio?

It looks like they are trying to sell off their domains. It's DotVentures and they have been advertising like crazy on MSNBC. I counted something like 5 ads in one hour yesterday.

Here is what they are doing from a press release. Looks like a ton of people are going to get taken and it will end up giving the domain business more bad publicity.

Mr. Merritt's Company- DotVentures has a particularly innovative approach to domain speculating. People with limited experience may want to take a look at them. DotVentures works with domain buyers in a unique way. They have a catalog of good long domain names which already appraise for thousands of dollars and that they think will significantly appreciate over the next two years. Some examples might be findcheapshoes.com, purchasefinewine.com and many others. Through their clout, DotVentures is able to offer these domain names to buyers for half of their appraised value. DotVentures then builds a fully optimized website around that domain linking it with relevant affiliate programs. The addition of a functioning web site adds equity to the domain and linking it with a strong affiliate partner adds value. Additionally, they also have a patent-pending technology that they infuse each site with that helps drive it to the top of the search engines. This radically increases traffic to the site. Traffic = $$$$$$$ in the world of domain speculation.

Over the two year incubation period, the buyer gets 100% of the income from the affiliate program that the site is linked with. This can be a steady stream of income. Within twenty-four months, the domain is put up for sale with DotVentures and the buyer splitting the proceeds. This is a unique way to capitalize upon this hot market while minimizing risk. Interested parties can call Pat Gilbert- Director of Domain Purchasing at: 888-291-2976.

 

[Focus]

It all sounds like a great opportunity for us to all make more money.. k:

 

[BobDiGiTaL]

I contacted the radio station:

MUSIC: ROCK INTRO
HOST: Well, hi everyone! If you're just joining us, we've got Dale Merritt here from Dot Ventures, and we're talkin' about the new way people are getting wealthy on the internet.
DALE: Thanks for having me.
HOST: Now, Dale, people are making insane money - doin what?
DALE: Selling domain names. Someone sold the domain name 'Creditcards.com' for $2.75 million. VIP.com sold for $1.4 million. And Business.com - $7.5 MILLION. And we've developed an easy system that lets ANYONE sell domain names. People are seeing profits like they never dreamed. ANYONE can do it.
HOST: (SKEPTICAL) C'mon, is it really that easy?
DALE: Yep, and to prove it, we're giving away the secrets to buying and selling domain names. You learn 'em free by going to our website at URL.com.
HOST: For free? I love free stuff... I can afford that, man.
DALE: (LAUGHS) There's truly unlimited money to be made doing this - but to get started you gotta know the secrets.
MUSIC: ROCK FADES IN
HOST: Okay folks, the secrets to buying and selling domain names...free at URL.com. That's URL.com. Dale, thanks for being here.
DALE: Hey thanks for having me on.
HOST: Again you can get the secrets free at URL.com. That's URL.com. [SLOWLY] URL.com.
MUSIC: FINISHES

 

[Duckinla]

Well know that it's explained, I can see what my problem is. I haven't been focusing on registering the really good names like creditcard.com. I'm going to change course a little.
Maybe I'll check out creditcards.com, I'll bet nobody's grabbed that.

Nope, that ones gone too. Have to just keep trying I guess.

 

[NameClerk]

Here is my opinion.

This whole DotVentures thing is pure Snake Oil bull crap. It's over hyped, over simplified, Dan Lapre style garbage.

DotVentures is based out of Arizona and is run by a fellow named Dale Merritt. Could this be the same Arizona based business man named Dale Merritt who got pinched awhile back for business oppourtunity fraud operating under the name Showcase Distrubuting, Inc.? Seems like more than a coincidence to me...

Some people believe that there is no such thing as bad publicity. I don't think the domain name industry needs this type of publicity.

Again, just my opinion.

-Bill

 

[hugegrowth]

sounds like one of those infomercials for miracle cures, stock trading systems, and real estate riches. lol

 

[hugegrowth]

double post

 

[GAMEFINEST]

This is just like those real estate commercials on TV, get rich quickly, except this is the domain virtual estate....alot of ppl will fall for it..

 

[petrosc]

Thanks but not what I meant.

I meant names like flowers-roses-cheap.com are they a potential goldmine in resales?

Anything is a potential gold mine, the question is, how big is that potential. It really depends if you can find an end user who is willing to pay a lot for it. Take some time however to calculate the chances of that happening, if you consider how many variants exists for multiple word domains. Flowers-and-roses-cheap.com, flowers-and-cheap-roses.com, cheap-flowers-and-roses.com, cheap-flowers-roses.com and the list goes on and on. These domains may be good for small business owners(memorable, seo etc), but NOT for domainers because there is very slight chance of ever selling it

In other news, word1-word2-word3.com domain is only good when you own word1word2word3.com as well. The reason is very simple. The dash separates the words so it's easy to advertise the name and it's more memorable when someone sees it on a billboard or in a tv ad. The potential customers remembers these words and goes home and types it in the navigation bar. Some will type it with dash, but some won't and this is why big companies use dashed domains in advertising and redirect them to the non-dashed version when you type it in.

Take eloan.com for example. In advertising, they use e-Loan.com which redirects to eloan.com

 

[HasRob]

The commercial the OP was trying to remember was for

www.internetbusiness360.com

I heard it last week.