Is type-in dying or already dead?

[DomainingCom]

Remember, I recently commented the "big boys" never post in DNForum.

I would like to hear them.

You, me, the little domainers don't own enough domains to fully appreciate what is the type-in trend.

Monte, you was one of the rare VIP claiming you are posting, come on and tell us about your experience.

I do not know if Frank Schiling has a huge portfolio, but if that's the case and someone know him then please ask him to give us his experience here.

The ones that have responses are the folks of the parking domains companies:
- SEDO, Parked, DomainSponsor, ... There is a good dozen here.
Adam created you specific area to discuss with your members.
You could return him the courtesy by participating more actively in his forum.
You have the stats of millions of domains, who better then you know what happend and what is happening with type in.
Action! Nobody here will critic you, at the inverse we will thank you!

Lezon, I know you compiled a great database of Overture stats, you could come here and tell us few things.
Maybe it should be interesting you tell us if you found a formula between the domain name length and the amount of type in, just an idea. You have the data, tell us some interesting thing you noticed regarding type ins.

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Duckinla

I put a sample that outlines type ins are not producing incomes.
If you have another experience with your own domains then do a detailed response.
Repeat the general and maybe false idea that type in effect still exists has low interest if not motivated by your experience, an explained theory, ...

Also parking companies serve sponsored links for domains, and domains get traffic in many ways.
Even with the type in effect totally dead they will still exist.

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[Seraphim]

Why would anyone with a noteworthy portfolio comment on this thread, like Frank Schilling or Adam Dicker for example? Even if their typein traffic is falling, which I highly doubt, do you think they would be foolish enough to publish a comment about it in public, and instantly devalue their holdings?

I've got a very small and modest portfolio, and even it is seeing an increase in type in traffic across a broad array of subject matter. There is also absolutely no industry wide price movements that would indicate type in traffic is dying, it's quite to the contrary even if you look at it with one eye open.

 

[DomainingCom]

hugegrowth

Basically you think that new internet surfers are coming so the type in effect should continue.
But are not new users coming each day a minority compared with existing and educated users?
We should not assist to a great fall down of type ins?

Your other idea that people use type ins when searching "other subjects" makes no sense.
Why people will do type for new subjects and not for subject they know?

Until now all these parked pages are a colection of links of poor interest and it should be great to know what is the average bouncing rate. The ones starting to add content are a true minority and once you add content, ... it's no longer a parked domain but a SITE!!!


Seraphin, GOOD POINT!

You just touched one of the theory I have and that say:
Type in is only a masquerade done by big porfolio owners to inflate the value of their domain portfolio!
It's their interest to continue the type in buzz, like it's their interest to advertise some big domain sales.

If that's not true, you are invited to come with real numbers.

 

[bensd]

Few days ago, I was very astonished to read that a domainer having 120 very short dot com parked was just earning 31 cents/months.
What better proof that type-in is already dead?
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I too read that post, and i believe the domainer was a newbee.
Now if those 120 domains were all recently registered by him, they woudln't have type in traffic.

 

[colombani]

I don't really know if type-in will be dead soon but I can see that:

-Problem with type-in is there is a big % of parking web site on generic names even if new parking pages are a little better designed for users.

-When you type poker.com you go to a web site to play poker.You can speak english, german, french or... you can play poker with it.
When you type plumber.com you go to a good website for call a plumber in usa but if I call it from england or other english speaking country I think it will be difficult for him to come home.
don't you think CCTLD will get type-in traffic when more CCTLD domains will be developped ?

 

[Biggie]

as long as there is a keyboard...there will be type-in's

resist those attempts to replace the keyboard and forever you will have type-in traffic!


there is also the google and yahoo threat to type-ins

as more people use these SE's to type searches in, your direct traffic may decrease from competion in results listings.

 

[DomainingCom]

None of the domainers owning a large portfolio or parking company want to highlight us about type in?
Is type in sick, or dead?

 

[katherine]

Is type-in dying or already dead?

No.

The second point that killed the type-in are the toolbars, and mainly the Google toolbar.

I don't believe it makes such a difference, instead people would go to google.com. The toolbar is a convenient shortcut.
A lot of traffic comes from search engines after all. It's always been.

Few days ago, I was very astonished to read that a domainer having 120 very short dot com parked was just earning 31 cents/months.
What better proof that type-in is already dead?
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It means nothing if the names are not generic or have no particular meaning.
I have short, pronouncable 5- & 6-letter .com domains that get little traffic. They are more the brandable type.
As a rule generic domains are more prone to type-in. Also household words like youtube or secondlife.
As an example youtube.com has 1333835 OVT with extension !

As long as there is TLD awareness there will be type-in traffic. It's not only .com, the European ccTLDs get good type-in traffic too.

 

[Duckinla]

You know, instead of putting up this controversial inflamatory subject title (as you always seem to do) you could have just asked "Is direct navigation on the decline?" That's probably what you really wanted to discuss. So why does it have to start with this dramatic title? Are you setting us up for another one of your projects or products? You are one more sales pitch away from my ignore list.

 

[Makis77]

hello!
my stats say that there is no indication that type in will die...
some domains are stronger when it come in searching terms and some other are so good in type in traffic.
Both of them are success for sure.
Type in still hold its place strong

 

[BostonDomainer]

You know, instead of putting up this controversial inflamatory subject title (as you always seem to do) you could have just asked "Is direct navigation on the decline?" That's probably what you really wanted to discuss. So why does it have to start with this dramatic title? Are you setting us up for another one of your projects or products? You are one more sales pitch away from my ignore list.

:lol: lol Coming Soon... Bogus.com for names that aren't really premium, nor crappy, nor really domain names. Press release comming soon!!!:smilewinkgrin: Just kidding. I have my names on both your sites Francois. I think you provide a good service to the domain community. The more exposure the better. Thanks!


But back on topic. I would think that type-in traffic are slightly on a decline. I personally rarely type a name in the url bar. My home page is google.com so I just click 'home'.

 

[Gerry]

Interesting to ponder...

Type-ins seem to continue to be strong for my domain names that are former page ranked and dropped web sites. I think the older the domain the more branded it had become over time and type ins continue.

I do not believe that is the case with newer domains. If it were not for the searches, doubtful there would be much success at all.

Now, to contradict myself...I have a web site with software that tells me where all the searches, referrals and stats are coming from. The site is less than 2 years old.

Being a specialty site and heavily branded as such and through my own promotional efforts, without doing the exact math at least 75% is type in. The remainder are searches and redirects. Perhaps this also shows that once found, it is bookmarked.

Even though the numbers per method (type in vs searches) is overwhelmingly in favor of raw type in data, there have also been a total of 291 "other sources" meaning searches or redirects.

So without question, the value of searches is apparent. As mentioned, is the site now bookmarked? If so, how did they find it.

However, I still believe that older well branded domains that were former websites still recieve a good deal of type in traffic. This I base on the data of several older domains that are parked.

By the way, DNforum...209 referrals

 

[DomainingCom]

Duckinla,

I am sorry my english don't be as good as your.
Yes your title look likes better, mine is probably more basic.


I don't have the chance nor maybe the money to own any of these very short single word domain names based in very popular keywords.
This should be the reason why I never really detected significant type in activity on my own domains.
And it's the main reason for which I decided to use the "dead" term in the thread title.

No, I am not looking to launch any new site around domains.
So don't be afraid. I do not plan to harrass you with new ads, ...

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Stuff,

As you can imagine, false or true, it's not very pleasant to read what you written:
"I heart they don't like you, for this reason they will not respond."

If that's true then I confirm it's sad, one always prefer to be liked.
Unfortunately what I can do to change their feeling, I do not know.

I was not expecting a PM response. But a response everyone could benefit.
I am sure I am not the only one having this question in mind.
A lot would like to get the response from these people who own or serve ads to several thousands domains.
Those having enough data to really detect trends.


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I tried to explain in my post the changes that happend and that lead me to no longer type in myself.
I do not think to be unique. If that happend to me, it's certainly happening the same to others.
And this is why I was wondering if type-in was not in the decline (to use Duckinla wording).

Why I am so persistant on get responses from the "big guys"?
Because I think they are the only ones that can respond to the few questions that will come after about type in.
Questions for which the response should be I am sure of great interest for most of the forum's domainers.

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[zouzas]

ask your self as a domainer when you land on a ppc page do you stay or exit right away??

if you exit right away,which is what i suspect, once common folk (as net matures):smilewinkgrin: relize about ppc pages why wouldnt they??

so it really comes down to like stated above,,,,,is the ppc landing pages killing typeins,,,


once you know a ppc page your not going back to it and when you land on one your exiting fast..

 

[DomainingCom]

To respond to your question Zouzas:
"I exit right away!"

And this is why I think users who experimented type in in the past probably do no longer type in.
I think that like me, you, ..., because they seen the site their get is for +75% of time of no interest then they stopped to type in.
If we add other points like the availability of search toolbars that allow now to get relevant search listings as fast as type in then you see that the type in effect must be declining!!!

This is why if it's not a SECRET then I would like confirmation from SEDO, Fabulous, .... these parking services that track hits/clicks, ... of hundred thousands domains.

 

[Ed30]

Folks type-in ..to their browser in a big way. If they didn't domainers wouldn't exist and we'd all be potless. How can "type-ins be dead" ??- that's ridiculous.

 

[Fearless]

ask your self as a domainer when you land on a ppc page do you stay or exit right away??

if you exit right away,which is what i suspect, once common folk (as net matures):smilewinkgrin: relize about ppc pages why wouldnt they??

Domainers are not common folk. For your theory to be correct, common folk would need to become uncommon folk like domainers.

 

[zouzas]

This is why if it's not a SECRET then I would like confirmation from SEDO, Fabulous, .... these parking services that track hits/clicks, ... of hundred thousands domains.

not that its a secret.....but none will admit ""if"" true where it goes to labeling .com names ""direct navigation" in order to aquire vc money.....


internet pentration is about 70% that is popluation enterting the net,,,as pentration icreases to 100% and user experiences becomes as versed as domainers is when you will see the nail in the coffin for ppc.....






NORTH AMERICA INTERNET USERS AND POPULATION STATS

NORTHERN AMERICA
Population
( 2007 Est. )
% Pop.
of World
Internet Users,
Latest Data
% Population
( Penetration )
% Usage
of World
Use Growth
( 2000-2007 )

North America Only
334,538,018
5.1 %
233,188,086
69.7 %
20.9 %
115.7 %

Rest of the World
6,240,128,399
94.9 %
881,086,340
14.1 %
79.1 %
248.4 %

WORLD TOTAL
6,574,666,417
100.0 %
1,114,274,426
16.9 %
100.0 %
208.7 %

http://www.internetworldstats.com/america.htm

 

[DomainingCom]

I am a "domainer" for less than one year.
And I was already acting like that before.

I am agree that new internet users may type in, but most of them are not new.

 

[zouzas]

Domainers are not common folk. For your theory to be correct, common folk would need to become uncommon folk like domainers.

right when common folk learn what ppc pages are they,,they'll exit....

when will they become that versed,,,is the open question.....



what do you do when you land on a ppc lander??